Noreaga: Nas wasn't on CNN War Report cause he doesn't like Tragedy

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Ehhh lets not take it too far, I dont think Tragedy is a legend. But he is a good MC. However lets be real, NORE is a terrible MC, and is KNOWN as a terrible MC, and beyond that NORE always made bad albums. His only good album is the first CNN joint, and honestly that album is a tragedy and marley marl album. The whole production, creative direction, lyrics, flow, etc that was ran through on that album was straight for Tragedy. Even in this interview NORE was like tragedy would tell him how to rap, what to rap about etc... On most of the Firm sh!t Nas was writing for NORE...

Comparing NORE to Tragedy, is like comparing Bizmarkie to Craig G... Trag is a good mc, NORE is some kinda entertainer but aint even classed as 'good' in the MC category.
 

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No one outside of the East coast would rank Trag as an all-time great. I have more respect for Bay nikkas saying Mac Dre is a goat or Southern nikkas stanning 3k than I do this stupid narrative.

regionally, they have claims to GOAT status. so even if you are saying regionally that Trag is a GOAT, then he is GOAT nevertheless and pioneered a rap style that was of influence. I accept that. which is more credit than you try to bestow upon him by saying he is merely average.
 

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You never wonder why NORE whole style completely flip from War Report, to the Firm joints, the NORE albums? Dude went from a decent rapper to garbation gibberish... and then just as suddenly NORE was able to rap again as soon as Capone got out of jail
 

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No one outside of the East coast would rank Trag as an all-time great. I have more respect for Bay nikkas saying Mac Dre is a goat or Southern nikkas stanning 3k than I do this stupid narrative.

I'm not from East Coast and I think Tragedy an all time great. Point proved wrong again lol. Aren't you the same dude who has never heard a Big Daddy Kane track?
 

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Ehhh lets not take it too far, I dont think Tragedy is a legend. But he is a good MC. However lets be real, NORE is a terrible MC, and is KNOWN as a terrible MC, and beyond that NORE always made bad albums. His only good album is the first CNN joint, and honestly that album is a tragedy and marley marl album. The whole production, creative direction, lyrics, flow, etc that was ran through on that album was straight for Tragedy. Even in this interview NORE was like tragedy would tell him how to rap, what to rap about etc... On most of the Firm sh!t Nas was writing for NORE...

Comparing NORE to Tragedy, is like comparing Bizmarkie to Craig G... Trag is a good mc, NORE is some kinda entertainer but aint even classed as 'good' in the MC category.

and thats cool if you dont. if he is not in your eyes does he just fall short? see, it depends on the angle you look at it. if you look at him being the youngest JC member, to his influential style and what he did with the CLASSIC War Report. his contributions to the game are legendary status. if there were no Trag, there would be no War Report....so lets begin there.
 

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I'm not from East Coast and I think Tragedy an all time great. Point proved wrong again lol. Aren't you the same dude who has never heard a Big Daddy Kane track?

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nah he aint is he?
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"No Half Steppin" is one of the first rap songs I can consciously remember my pops playing when I was like 5-6 years old.
 

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Most people who don't rank Tragedy high, just never heard of him. I've never heard anyone that is aware of Tragedy and not think he's dope

He just doesn't have much profile or name recognition, so lack of fans is more a product of people not knowing he even exist. You can say that's his fault, and you wouldn't be wrong. But he's still a dope rapper
 

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Seems to be a notion from Poitier, who is a cool poster, that if you don't have a large fan base you're not a great rapper.

That couldn't be further from the truth

I got a ton of my favorite rappers on my all time list who ain't really known like that. Queens has spawned more dope rappers than any other location in the world. I just never got the appeal of dude :manny:
 

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I got a ton of my favorite rappers on my all time list who ain't really known like that. Queens has spawned more dope rappers than any other location in the world. I just never got the appeal of dude :manny:

That's fair bro, but I was just saying that because you was saying "Well he didn't sell any records, so people don't agree he's dope" as your reasoning for some of the rappers not being better than others.
 

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"old ears" "hiphop purists" "who cares about backstories" "tragedy is average"

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Purist? What does that mean that your views are impure?
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Trag and AZ were the best to ever blend the conflict of thug life and righteousness, without sounding conflicted.

this is truth
just like there are good basketball players, boxers, actors, etc....that had the talent but never became really big due to whatever reason...this is the category that Trag falls into.

"why theres nikkaz up north thas better than jordan.." -kiss
 

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That's fair bro, but I was just saying that because you was saying "Well he didn't sell any records, so people don't agree he's dope" as your reasoning for some of the rappers not being better than others.

I was saying that as a reason why he wasn't dope, I was refuting Ruler 09 point that EVERYONE thinks Trag is dope and has a better delivery/ voice than Nore.
 
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