King Khufu
CARTEL MAFIA GANG
She's a drop dead gorgeous female.
Normani: “Why Does Pop Have To Be So White?”
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King Khufu
CARTEL MAFIA GANG
RnB is another name for Pop Music.
"The Music That Always Sells The Most Is The Most Talently Soulful."
"The Music That Always Sells The Most Is The Most Talently Soulful."
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
But if your auntie, mother or grandmother still have their vinyl albums or cds, you will find in their collections an extensive variety of female singers: Aretha, Whitney, Chaka Khan/Rufus, Anita Baker, Natalie Cole, Roberta Flack, Janet Jackson, Donna Summer, Cheryl Lynn, Melba Moore, Me"Lisa Morgan, Dianne Reeves, Patti LaBelle, Gladys Knight/Pips, Mariah, Lauryn Hill, Cherrelle.
It would have been unimaginable to previous black generations that just two singers would be dominant
for close to 15 years.
Hell, everyone who appeared on Soul Train had a hit on the radio. 40 episodes a year, two artists on each show meant we saw 80 top SOUL (emphasized for purpose...) artists each year.
That Beyonce and Rihanna are "the last ones standing" is a sign of the slow death of singer-based black music, when compared to the abundant past we once had.
NZA
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i dont really deal with pop but im rooting for her
The examples he gave aren’t talented for the most part. A lot of mediocre artists are being put out there. There’s a big difference between the list you provided and the one he did. One group could actually sing, had talent, and made good music. The other list? Bleh. That’s the only way to describe it. I think with social media, YouTube and whatnot it’s given easier access for people who aren’t very talented to get a Platform.
King Khufu
CARTEL MAFIA GANG
But on the same hand those of us are smart can easily just look up all the hood classics / good music on YouTube.
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
That's what's wrong with most of whom they try to set in front of us and call R&B today;
They trying to sell us the image - selling the sizzle and not the steak.
No matter what, to paraphrase The D.O.C.:
This is not the "who has the best voice" business, the "who looks better on a poster" business, or the "producer" business - this is the "song" business. If your music don't hit, you won't blow up.
Everybody will say all day that Keith Sweat can't sing, but he made it farther than a lot of other artists in this game because he make KNOCKS you can't fucc with.
It’s been a plus and a minus. Ella mai was a YouTube singer that did covers. Wasn’t that the same for summer walker? Nowadays anyone with just a little bit of talent can become an artist, and right now a large portion of R&B is coming from mediocre artists being hyped up by a generation that doesn’t know what good music is, those of us that do, do what you said and get on YouTube to play throwbacks.
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
I think its fair to say that in a social media and cell phones world, music simply does not occupy the center of our culture the way it once did.
So the quality and essence/spirituality of music (what we importantly once referred to as "soul") has diminished tremendously.
The entire craft has become mediocre, marginalized and reduced from what it was, It is well beyond just the artists at this point.
Exactly.
Ariana Grande is equally risque. Even Britney Spears and them were also back in the day.
Hmmm... yeah there is still a difference. Even if we were able to edit out the explicit words in each of the below songs, the latter song is still too much if I got an older relative or a kid around. I’m not going to play that so I would have to default to other songs where the lyrics are not evoking a certain level of sexual explicitness. I wouldn’t want my daughter singing either song tbh but singing the second one would be cringey af. Unfortunately, and I hate to say it, but a lot of the white pop songs are just safer.
Thought I'd end up with Sean
But he wasn't a match
Wrote some songs about Ricky
Now I listen and laugh
Even almost got married
And for Pete, I'm so thankful
Wish I could say, "Thank you" to Malcolm
'Cause he was an angel
One taught me love
One taught me patience
And one taught me pain
Now, I'm so amazing
I've loved and I've lost
But that's not what I see
So, look what I got
Look what you taught me
And for that, I say
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I'm so fukkin' grateful for my ex
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I'm so fukkin'
VS.
Honestly, I'm tryin' to stay focused
You must think I've got to be joking when I say
I don't think I can wait
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Tired of fukking with these lame nikkas, baby
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We could start with a handshake, baby
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Girls can't never say how
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Mickey Kane
All Star
Spice Girl's '2 Becomes 1' is wild listening as an adult.
brehette I have your answer
it was Rihanna’s cheesy red hair era at the start of the decade that messed it all up. Remember her Loud Album still is and will end up being the biggest selling album of the decade for a black female. I’m dead serious check the stats. She also herself I think has said that was one of her least favorite eras even with that being when she was the biggest
it was the the start of a period where black pop music lost even more soul especially with biracial Canadian drake being a part of it...this wasn’t your old baby face of the 90s writing pop songs....this was Drake...Drakeeee?
this was also during the same period Nicki was giving us cheesy ass pop and then you had their white counterparts in Katy and Gaga. All four are to blame. I know the last two are white but everyone started following their model.
as for what happened prior, after the early 2000s we had that brief period of dancehall where foreign artists were blowing up. The 90s r and b artists of the past that dabbled in pop were on breaks from the industry or retired or had financial issues like TLC. The momentum was gone for many people