Now the NY has been irrelevant and dead for over twenty years can we all agree the south killed hip hop?

[Shadow King]

The defenses for the South/deflecting back to NY doesn't work when
A) There hasn't been enough diversity in the talent/skill level of Southern artists who reached the top or got attention while
B) The South prides itself on "selling out the trunk/hood platinum/don't need no label" rhetoric simultaneously.

Striving for a certain skill level pushed hip-hop to its peak and kept the innovation going. That started disappearing 20 years ago with the geographic shift.

 

[InGodWeTrust]

The south supports their own.

On Atlanta radio you would think Lil Baby is having a great year

 

[CrimsonTider]

100%

West coast still sounds west coast. Lousiana still has it's sound for the most part, etc.

regionalism is there in the underground. Plenty of underground NYC rappers that are instantly identifiable as NYC artists.

But on a mainstream level, everyone doing the same shyt and it's bland af.

This isn’t true at all.

Rod Wave doesn’t sound like Lil baby

YB doesn’t sound like Gunna

Bigxtheplug doesn’t sound like 21

 

[Tribal Outkast]

NY “post to be” the Mecca. That’s ok them

 

[Knucklehead]

I swear some of y’all are the whiniest pussies in the world.
We have unlimited access to any type of music and playlist we want at any moment of time in our lives.
I can go to any city and within 5-10 minutes figure out a venue where I can hear music to my liking.
It is entirely up to you what you hear. Unless you’re hatefully listening to a playlist of “most streamed rap songs” it’s all a choice.

 

[Illuminatos]

Yall want NY to go back to their old sound when everyone clowns the old NY style and says it sound old and outdated.
Besides this young kids in NY didn’t grow up listening to Mobb Deep or Bas or whatever. They grew up on Atlanta Trap and Chicago Drill. That old sound isn’t coming back.

Mid-late 2010s and early 2020s, NY was doing their thing and had a new movement with the Brooklyn Drill sound as well as that melodic style rap (A Boogie/Tjay). Unfortunately a lot of these dudes got killed, locked up or fell off. It happens.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I swear some of y’all are the whiniest pussies in the world.
We have unlimited access to any type of music and playlist we want at any moment of time in our lives.
I can go to any city and within 5-10 minutes figure out a venue where I can hear music to my liking.
It is entirely up to you what you hear. Unless you’re hatefully listening to a playlist of “most streamed rap songs” it’s all a choice.

They want everyone to listen to and hold in high regard the music they prefer

 

[3333broadway]

My original post went over peoples head and some of yall arguing in here like I didn’t title the thread ny been dead for twenty years but what has the south given us in these two decades idk b something’s been missing and everyone knows it

 

[CrimsonTider]

My original post went over peoples head and some of yall arguing in here like I didn’t title the thread ny been dead for twenty years but what has the south given us in these two decades idk b something’s been missing and everyone knows it

Classics artist, songs and music

 

[Art Barr]

After the mecca of hiphop by proxy.
endorsed jiggy-ism to child molestation.
By not holding krs one to the flame to the fire.
to do the job krs asked for. Instead of infallible endorsement. Of the two culture thieves to hiphop culture. Hip hop and the mecca became casualities of that negligence.
Sliding down the slippery slope.
Of pandora's box opening being willfully endorsed.
of culturally damning more and norm deviant behavior.
Now here we are.
To where we are now.
Having discussion that never heeded the cultural warnings.
till to much skin in the game was lost.
Where it is to late.
to Turn back now.


Art Barr

 

[3rd Ward Swangin]

The defenses for the South/deflecting back to NY doesn't work when
A) There hasn't been enough diversity in the talent/skill level of Southern artists who reached the top or got attention while
B) The South prides itself on "selling out the trunk/hood platinum/don't need no label" rhetoric simultaneously.

Striving for a certain skill level pushed hip-hop to its peak and kept the innovation going. That started disappearing 20 years ago with the geographic shift.

When y'all had Mims and all these other rappers who haven't shown any growth, stop the cap. Y'all have drill that nobody wants to hear. Y'all took that from Chicago by way of the U.K.

The biggest artist from NYC ain't nobody checking for them. What versatility has NYC shown? Hip hop is a manufactured stolen art who's O.G.s has molested children. Then y'all got guys like KRS-1 that's defending the nonsense.

From Russell Simmons on down to Diddy, y'all have too many skeletons to be talking this culture and righteous shyt.

 

[Shadow King]

When y'all had Mims and all these other rappers who haven't shown any growth, stop the cap. Y'all have drill that nobody wants to hear. Y'all took that from Chicago by way of the U.K.

The biggest artist from NYC ain't nobody checking for them. What versatility has NYC shown? Hip hop is a manufactured stolen art who's O.G.s has molested children. Then y'all got guys like KRS-1 that's defending the nonsense.

From Russell Simmons on down to Diddy, y'all have too many skeletons to be talking this culture and righteous shyt.

All you're listing is a product of what y'all set as a blueprint and low bar. Ain't no cap.

Stop listening to rap if you feel all that.