NSA Whistle-Blower Tells All - Op-Docs: The Program

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No I wouldn't be in favor of such measure.

But why though? It's just following you argument to it's logical conclusion.

"They don't have to worry about it if they aren't criminals". I reject this wholeheartedly as an excuse.

I don't view taking a shyt or jacking off as a crime or shameful activity but it doesn't mean I'd be willing to do in the middle of times square for everyone to see.


But in terms of spying on someone and arresting someone are two different circumstances.


They are, but arbitrarily collecting data on people might lead to a feeling of imprisonment. What's to stop the government from using this data to entrap or blackmail vocal opposition to these entities?


Imprisoning someone already subdues and restrains them. For the most part, the need to spy would become null and pointless.

Isn't the point of spying to lead to a case to subdue or restrain criminals?
 

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We've been talking about this knowledge for YEARS, were called conspiracy nuts and all other sorts of nonsense, but it's not so funny now that we're seeing it all become to light more and more each day.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE WOULD CALL YOU A CONSPIRACY NUT FOR SAYING A LARGE AND POWERFUL GOVERNMENT SPIES ON ITS CITIZENS IN THE DIGITAL AGE, BROTHER! THE TINFOILER LABEL IS RESERVED FOR PEOPLE WHO TAKE ISSUES LIKE THIS AND THEN EXTRAPOLATE INTO AN INCREASINGLY BIZARRE AND PARANOID SCENARIO WHERE EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD IS ORCHESTRATED BY AN EVIL CABAL OF SATAN WORSHIPERS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, DUDE!
 

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Actually, bringing this sort of information to light WAS indeed equated with paranoia and irrationally having a fear of the government. Let's not move the goalposts around.

Yeah, it's not bizarre that the government is trampling all over our civil liberties and making a concerted effort to take away guns. It's not bizarre that the government is starting to fly drones all over our cities, which can be retrofitted with lethal wepaons. It's not bizarre that our government is illegally storing countless amounts of information about America's citizens and has actually assassinated American citizens after painting them "terrahrists". That's rational behavior for a free and democratic government to engage in. It's not bizarre that many of the architects of these sorts of policies have openly been talking of a new world order.
 

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Actually, bringing this sort of information to light WAS indeed equated with paranoia and irrationally having a fear of the government. Let's not move the goalposts around.
I DON'T RECALL SEEING THAT HAPPEN, BROTHER!

Yeah, it's not bizarre that the government is trampling all over our civil liberties and making a concerted effort to take away guns. It's not bizarre that the government is starting to fly drones all over our cities, which can be retrofitted with lethal wepaons. It's not bizarre that our government is illegally storing countless amounts of information about America's citizens
WHILE IT'S HIGHLY UNETHICAL, NONE OF THAT STRIKES THE HULKSTER AS BIZARRE FOR A SUPERPOWER TO DO, DUDE! REALIZING THAT POWER IS CORRUPT HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH THE KIND OF WACKY STUFF WE REFER TO AS CONSPIRACY THEORY HERE, MEAN GENE!

and has actually assassinated American citizens after painting them "terrahrists".
A FEW AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE JOINED TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS, AIDING AND ABETTING AN ENEMY, CHOOSING TO BECOME PARTICIPANTS IN PARAMILITARY ACTIVITY, JACK! IT'S NOT LIKE ALEX JONES WAS LABELLED A TERRORIST AND DRONED TO DEATH, BROTHER!

That's rational behavior for a free and democratic government to engage in. It's not bizarre that many of the architects of these sorts of policies have openly been talking of a new world order.
WE ARE ENTERING AN INCREASINGLY GLOBALIZED MARKET, DUDE! ONE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY RESPECT NATIONAL BOUNDARIES, MEAN GENE! I SEE THIS AS THE NATURAL CONSEQUENCE OF TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS AND POPULATION GROWTH, CHAMP! NOT SOME SINISTER PLOT TO POUR THE BLOOD OF CHRISTIAN BABIES INTO THE MOUTHS OF JEWISH LIZARD PEOPLE SO THE ANTICHRIST CAN IMMANENTIZE THE ESCHATON, BROTHER!
 
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