Flex Grossman
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As someone who does watch every nuggets game, he'll be fine. 
Y'all can do whatever you want in this thread tho.
Y'all can do whatever you want in this thread tho.
Nuggets coach Mike Malone getting frustrated w/ Emmanuel Mudiay
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Will his jumpshot be "fine" too?As someone who does watch every nuggets game, he'll be fine.
Y'all can do whatever you want in this thread tho.
He has issues but he isn't close to being the worse starter.
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He's not a true point guard, he's a slasher that has no shot right now. Still young though and has shown potential, i don't think he's ready to be a starter just yet.
Luol Dang says hello.
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Another Denver writer saying the problem with the Nuggets is Emmanuel Mudiay. They can't all be wrong can they? Kiszla: What the Nuggets need to do about their Emmanuel Mudiay problem – The Denver Post
The Nuggets have an Emmanuel Mudiay problem.
Has the good of the team been sacrificed for the education of Mudiay? This is a franchise feeling pressure to win games and put fannies in the Pepsi Center seats. But too often it seems as if the primary job of coach Michael Malone is to babysit Mudiay, a raw 20-year-old point guard whose lack of refinement is as obvious as his poor passing and worse shooting.
If basketball is a meritocracy — or the Nuggets harbor any real hope of reaching the NBA playoffs — then it makes little sense that Mudiay, one of the league’s worst point guards by any measure, has played 349 minutes, second only to teammate Danilo Gallinari through 11 games.
This is not intended to bash Mudiay. He was a good get by the Nuggets with the seventh choice in the 2015 draft. But each clanked 15-foot jumper by Mudiay during a catch-and-shoot drill near the end of practice was a not-so-subtle reminder Denver might have drafted a solid point guard rather than a perennial all-star in a league ruled by Steph Curry and Russell Westbrook.
There are simply too many holes in Mudiay’s game. As a rookie, he shot 36.4 percent from the field, and his accuracy is slightly worse this season. His assists are down. His turnovers are up. He is big for a point guard, but not particularly explosive, which explains why Mudiay has trouble finishing at the rim. His confidence is as capricious as an adolescent.
Well, the reality of Mudiay’s many flaws have set in and Malone now says: “He’s very hard on himself, so it doesn’t help if I come in and hammer that over the head. I have to uplift. And we have to come up with a plan to help him. He’s more than willing to participate in his own recovery.”
Recovery? The reclamation of Emmanuel Mudiay is not a reason to panic, if you take a step back and admit Mudiay is a project. Nothing more. Nothing less. On nights when he stinks, the young point guard needs to grab a seat and watch Denver teammates try to snare a victory. Treat him as just another player, not the franchise savior.
What the rest of us need to do is lower our expectations for Mudiay. Denver is so hungry for its next bona fide NBA star, we swallowed the hype, myself included. Mudiay is not the next Jason Kidd. Not now. Probably not ever.
What’s the reality? Mudiay isn’t the answer to the Nuggets’ prayers. He’s a 20-year-old kid just praying his next shot doesn’t go clank.
They talking bout this mufukka like he a heroin addict. Recovery
I wanna see you Mudiay defenders come defend this shyt. Hes a disgrace to the Nuggets franchise. Alex English is rollin over in his grave
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Rubio's a better defender and a better passer. I would call him a Congolese Chucky Atkins but Chucky could knock down a 3 every now and then@Malta called him a taller Rubio.
1 assist in 3 games is fukking pathetic.
He's a congolese Darius Morris.
Rubio's a better defender and a better passer. I would call him a Congolese Chucky Atkins but Chucky could knock down a 3 every now and then
He's a congolese Darius Morris.
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Point guard is the toughest position on the court. Not many 19 year olds need to be handed the keys
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But He's 20
Jamal Murray, not Emmanuel Mudiay, is the Denver Nuggets point guard of the future
By Michael Jaycox -
December 6, 2016
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Emmanuel Mudiay is killing the Nuggets. He hasn’t just been bad; he’s been one of the worst players in the NBA, and it’s not getting better.
Over the last five games, we’ve seen Mudiay’s minutes drop from 36 to 35 to 29 to 21, and he’s done little to re-earn the trust of Malone or his teammates, as he’s shot 32 percent from the field and has had two straight games without a single assist.
The eye test says it all, as Mudiay consistently looks lost and overmatched on the court, but the analytics say even more. Through 21 games, the Nuggets’ net rating when Mudiay is off the court (4.1) is roughly the equivalent of the Cleveland Cavaliers (4.3), while their net rating with him on the court (-8.8) is more akin to the Brooklyn Nets (-8.4).
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Emmanuel Mudiay’s on/off court statistics, per NBA.com
That’s a 12.9-point difference, which is insane …
In fact, of all the players to have played at least 15 games this season and average over 25 minutes a game, Mudiay has the fifth-worst net rating in the league. Of the four players ahead of him, three are 76ers (which shouldn’t really count) and the other is Evan Turner, who most would call this offseason’s worst free-agent signing.
Simply put, with the way Mudiay is performing right now, he’s unplayable.
So, the question becomes: What do the Denver Nuggets do now?
They can keep him in the starting lineup, just as they’ve been doing, and hope he rebounds, but that’s a scary proposition. If he doesn’t, Denver isn’t going to be able to compete with many teams in this league — unfortunately, nobody can play the 76ers every night.
The other option, of course, is to bench him, which I’ve been favor of for awhile now.
Originally, the idea was to give Mudiay a much-needed mental break, and I think that could still do him some good. But now, it has a lot more to do with the play of Jamal Murray.
Murray, unlike Mudiay, has actually been an extreme positive for the Denver Nuggets, as the team’s net rating is 6.9 points better with him on the court.
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Jamal Murray’s on/off court statistics, per NBA.com
When Murray was drafted, the Nuggets made it very clear that they envisioned him to be just as much a point guard as he was a shooting guard, and that has proven to be the case.
While he may not be a pass-first point guard, the vision is there, and he shows it off once or twice a game, even in limited minutes. Tack on some crafty ball handling and the ability to score in just about every fashion imaginable, and Murray’s game begins to show a strong resemblance to the likes of Steph Curry and Damian Lillard.
Is that a bit far? Maybe, but if you watched Murray light up the 76ers on Monday night or the Bulls back on November 22 or the Jazz the night after that, you might tend to agree.
Either way, I can say with absolute certainty that the reigning Western Conference Rookie of the Month deserves to be playing more than 22 minutes a game — he only played 23 minutes against the 76ers despite putting up 22 points, three rebounds and two assists.
Last year the Nuggets allowed Mudiay to play 30 minutes a game right out of the gate, and Murray has certainly shown more in his first 20 games than Mudiay did.
At this point, with the way he’s is playing, there’s no reason to believe that Mudiay is any more prepared or “ready” to be starting for an NBA team with playoff aspirations than Murray, so why is he?
The only reasoning that comes to mind is that he was in Denver before Murray, and if that’s the case, the Nuggets are making a mistake.
For the immediate and long term, Denver needs to build around Murray, not Mudiay. If some time away from the spotlight revitalizes Mudiay (as it did last year) and makes the Nuggets’ future at point guard a question again, even better. But right now, it’s not.
Jamal Murray is the man in Denver.
Read more at Jamal Murray, not Emmanuel Mudiay, is the Denver Nuggets point guard of the future | Mile High Sports
@Gil Scott-Heroin take your L
By Michael Jaycox -
December 6, 2016
421
image: http://milehighsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/USATSI_9695360_164063748_lowres-696x425.jpg
Emmanuel Mudiay is killing the Nuggets. He hasn’t just been bad; he’s been one of the worst players in the NBA, and it’s not getting better.
Over the last five games, we’ve seen Mudiay’s minutes drop from 36 to 35 to 29 to 21, and he’s done little to re-earn the trust of Malone or his teammates, as he’s shot 32 percent from the field and has had two straight games without a single assist.
The eye test says it all, as Mudiay consistently looks lost and overmatched on the court, but the analytics say even more. Through 21 games, the Nuggets’ net rating when Mudiay is off the court (4.1) is roughly the equivalent of the Cleveland Cavaliers (4.3), while their net rating with him on the court (-8.8) is more akin to the Brooklyn Nets (-8.4).
image: http://milehighsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Screen-Shot-2016-12-06-at-1.40.20-PM.png
Emmanuel Mudiay’s on/off court statistics, per NBA.com
That’s a 12.9-point difference, which is insane …
In fact, of all the players to have played at least 15 games this season and average over 25 minutes a game, Mudiay has the fifth-worst net rating in the league. Of the four players ahead of him, three are 76ers (which shouldn’t really count) and the other is Evan Turner, who most would call this offseason’s worst free-agent signing.
Simply put, with the way Mudiay is performing right now, he’s unplayable.
So, the question becomes: What do the Denver Nuggets do now?
They can keep him in the starting lineup, just as they’ve been doing, and hope he rebounds, but that’s a scary proposition. If he doesn’t, Denver isn’t going to be able to compete with many teams in this league — unfortunately, nobody can play the 76ers every night.
The other option, of course, is to bench him, which I’ve been favor of for awhile now.
Originally, the idea was to give Mudiay a much-needed mental break, and I think that could still do him some good. But now, it has a lot more to do with the play of Jamal Murray.
Murray, unlike Mudiay, has actually been an extreme positive for the Denver Nuggets, as the team’s net rating is 6.9 points better with him on the court.
image: http://milehighsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Screen-Shot-2016-12-06-at-1.42.11-PM.png
Jamal Murray’s on/off court statistics, per NBA.com
When Murray was drafted, the Nuggets made it very clear that they envisioned him to be just as much a point guard as he was a shooting guard, and that has proven to be the case.
While he may not be a pass-first point guard, the vision is there, and he shows it off once or twice a game, even in limited minutes. Tack on some crafty ball handling and the ability to score in just about every fashion imaginable, and Murray’s game begins to show a strong resemblance to the likes of Steph Curry and Damian Lillard.
Is that a bit far? Maybe, but if you watched Murray light up the 76ers on Monday night or the Bulls back on November 22 or the Jazz the night after that, you might tend to agree.
Either way, I can say with absolute certainty that the reigning Western Conference Rookie of the Month deserves to be playing more than 22 minutes a game — he only played 23 minutes against the 76ers despite putting up 22 points, three rebounds and two assists.
Last year the Nuggets allowed Mudiay to play 30 minutes a game right out of the gate, and Murray has certainly shown more in his first 20 games than Mudiay did.
At this point, with the way he’s is playing, there’s no reason to believe that Mudiay is any more prepared or “ready” to be starting for an NBA team with playoff aspirations than Murray, so why is he?
The only reasoning that comes to mind is that he was in Denver before Murray, and if that’s the case, the Nuggets are making a mistake.
For the immediate and long term, Denver needs to build around Murray, not Mudiay. If some time away from the spotlight revitalizes Mudiay (as it did last year) and makes the Nuggets’ future at point guard a question again, even better. But right now, it’s not.
Jamal Murray is the man in Denver.
Read more at Jamal Murray, not Emmanuel Mudiay, is the Denver Nuggets point guard of the future | Mile High Sports
@Gil Scott-Heroin take your L