Nursing Is No Longer Counted as a ‘Professional Degree’ by Trump Admin

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Nursing Is No Longer Counted as a ‘Professional Degree’ by Trump Admin​


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Nov 20, 2025 at 09:15 AM EST
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Nov 21, 2025 at 03:26 AM EST



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The Department of Education has excluded nursing as a "professional degree" program as it sets about implementing various measures regarding student loans laid out in President Donald Trump's "One Big Beautiful Bill."
The move has sparked significant uproar among nurses and nursing groups, with the American Nurses Association saying, as reported by Nursing World, that "limiting nurses’ access to funding for graduate education threatens the very foundation of patient care."
In the regulatory definition of a professional degree (34 CFR 668.2) from 1965, nursing was not definitively listed as a professional degree, although the text lists a number of professions, but says a professional degree is "not limited to" those mentioned.
It is therefore not clear in the text if nursing was previously classified as a professional degree, but now that the term is forming part of student loan determinations, its omission is having an impact.

Department of Education press secretary for higher education Ellen Keast told Newsweek: "This is fake news at its finest. The Department has had a consistent definition of what constitutes a professional degree for decades and the consensus-based language aligns with this historical precedent. The committee, which included institutions of higher education, agreed on the definition that we will put forward in a proposed rule. We’re not surprised that some institutions are crying wolf over regulations that never existed because their unlimited tuition ride on the taxpayer dime is over."

Why It Matters​

The change will impact hundreds of thousands of students—there are over 260,000 students currently enrolled in entry-level Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN) programs and around 42,000 enrolled in Associate Degree in Nursing (ADN), according to data collected by the American Nurses Association.

Many have warned the move will lead to a significant drop in the number of nurses in the country, impacting health care services nationwide.
A nurse working in a clinic.

File photo: a nurse working in a clinic. | Getty Images/Dragos Condrea

What To Know​

In the One Big Beautiful Bill, the Grad PLUS program, designed to help graduate and professional students cover educational expenses, is being eliminated, while Parent PLUS loans, student loans available for parents of dependent undergraduate students, are being capped.
These measures were brought in with the intention of creating a "new and simplified" Repayment Assistance Plan (RAP)—whereby annual loans for new borrowers were capped at $20,500 for graduate students and $50,000 for professional students.
As part of this implementation process, the Department of Education decided to change the definition of what counted as a professional program, and therefore eligible for the $200,000 aggregate limit available for professional students.
The department determined that the following programs were professional: medicine, pharmacy, dentistry, optometry, law, veterinary medicine, osteopathic medicine, podiatry, chiropractic, theology and clinical psychology.

This meant that physician assistants, nurse practitioners, physical therapists and audiologist were excluded from the list.
One nurse posted through the IVs By The Seas TikTok account, a clinic offering mobile IV hydration and aesthetic services in New Jersey: "10 years of schooling... $210k in student loan debt... 15 years of ER and Trauma experience which included preventing physicians from making error at 3 a.m. and now... my degree isn't considered a professional degree. Cool."
She also said that the country would be "short by a million other nurses" by not providing them with the same reimbursement on their education and training as other medical professions.
"With a cap on federal student loans, fewer nurses will be able to afford graduate nursing education, such as Master's, [Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP)], and Ph.D. degrees," Olga Yakusheva, a professor of nursing and business of health at Johns Hopkins University, told Newsweek.

She added that these degrees allowed nurses career pathways to "organizational leadership, ability to diagnose and prescribe medications, training to lead independent research, and credentials to teach at institutions of higher education."
She said that this in turn would impact the capacity of the U.S. nursing programs and "reduce the numbers of new nurse graduates at the baccalaureate and associate degree levels."

What People Are Saying​

Department of Education press secretary for higher education Ellen Keast told Newsweek: "This is fake news at its finest. The Department has had a consistent definition of what constitutes a professional degree for decades and the consensus-based language aligns with this historical precedent. The committee, which included institutions of higher education, agreed on the definition that we will put forward in a proposed rule. We’re not surprised that some institutions are crying wolf over regulations that never existed because their unlimited tuition ride on the taxpayer dime is over."
Patricia (Polly) Pittman, a professor of health policy and management and director of the Fitzhugh Mullan Institute for Health Workforce Equity at George Washington University, told Newsweek: "There is no question that this is a gut punch for nursing. It is unconscionable that in a period when government should be focused on finding ways to retain licensed nurses in the field, the cap on loans represents a major barrier to continued education. Education, including from [Licensed Practice Nurse (LPN)] to ADN to BSN, and then beyond to become an advanced practice nurse, is the single best way to retain nurses, especially in rural and underserved communities. At a symbolic level, it is also deeply insulting to nurses who have fought so hard to be recognized for their critical contributions to health care."

Olga Yakusheva, a professor of nursing and business of health at Johns Hopkins University, told Newsweek: "The broader impact will be increased shortages of primary care, especially in areas with significant physician shortages. This could mean longer wait times and less time with your medical provider; as well as higher workloads for physicians. The strain on the educational system can lead to long-term reductions in the domestically educated nursing workforce, increasing labor costs and a growing reliance on foreign-educated nurses.
Jennifer Mensik Kennedy, president of the American Nurses Association said in a statement, per Nursing World: "Nurses make up the largest segment of the health care workforce and the backbone of our nation’s health system. At a time when health care in our country faces a historic nurse shortage and rising demands, limiting nurses’ access to funding for graduate education threatens the very foundation of patient care. In many communities across the country, particularly in rural and underserved areas, advanced practice registered nurses ensure access to essential, high-quality care that would otherwise be unavailable. We urge the Department of Education to recognize nursing as the essential profession it is and ensure access to loan programs that make advanced nursing education possible."
Antonia Villarruel, professor and dean of nursing at the University of Pennsylvania, told Newsweek: "In today's health and health care landscape, nurses are needed everywhere; not only because of their holistic perspectives on health, but because of their deep science-based knowledge and ability to apply to evidence based solutions—to life and death situations—and everything in between.
"Not including nursing as a professional degree is yet another barrier to nursing education. Restricting access to guaranteed federal loans will severely limit the number of highly educated providers to provide care in this complex environment. This impacts nurse preparation at every level—and especially graduate nursing education. Not including nursing as a professional degree is more than an affront to the nation's most trusted profession—it is serious blow to the health of our nation."

What Happens Next​

According to New America, the new measures will be implemented from July 1, 2026.
Update 11/20/25, 10:24 a.m. ET: This article has been updated with comment from Antonia Villarruel.
Update 11/20/25, 1:44 p.m. ET: This article has been updated to clarify whether nursing was previously classed as a professional degree.
Update 11/21/25, 2:58 a.m. ET: This article has been updated with comment from the Department of Education.
 

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I think i can see the play here. :patrice:

This might be a bit cynical of me but I imagine what they're going to do is create an even bigger shortage and then use it as justification to bring in Indian nurses. And then they're going to gaslight the American population saying that we are stupid and we need great foreign minds to save us from our idiocy.
:wow:


But i also imagine that this is going to force salaries to go higher for nurses that have already graduated. Which means higher healthcare costs for everyone despite the insertion of indentured servants from abroad (because h-1b slots are hoarded by tech)
 

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I think i can see the play here. :patrice:

This might be a bit cynical of me but I imagine what they're going to do is create an even bigger shortage and then use it as justification to bring in Indian nurses. And then they're going to gaslight the American population saying that we are stupid and we need great foreign minds to save us from our idiocy.
:wow:


But i also imagine that this is going to force salaries to go higher for nurses that have already graduated. Which means higher healthcare costs for everyone despite the insertion of indentured servants from abroad (because h-1b slots are hoarded by tech)

Losing your status as a Professional Degree, means your standing, weight and bargaining power has been drastically reduced.

This was done to cut the salaries of nurses by reducing their professional status.

Now Trump's cronies in the medical business can pay nurses less knowing they have reduced status and zero bargaining power.
 

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What is the end game?

There is, and will be a nursing shortage in this country. Not because I think so, but because the Dept. of Labor, among others, said so and were taking measures to address that.


Putting your Seniors, and your general population at risk by discouraging people from entering such a vital profession.

MFers have no idea what they're doing.

*article/press release in link is from 2022, during Biden's term
 
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Losing your status as a Professional Degree, means your standing, weight and bargaining power has been drastically reduced.

This was done to cut the salaries of nurses by reducing their professional status.

Now Trump's cronies in the medical business can pay nurses less knowing they have reduced status and zero bargaining power.
Actually very very very very impossible.
The nurses get paid a lot because they're needed and there is a shortage. All this will do is squeeze the supply of nurses further because nurses can't get the funding from financial aid to complete their education.There is an inelastic demand for nurses Because nursing is not easy work and the hospital collapses without them.

the professional distinction is only necessary because of the new financial aid cuts limiting the amount of borrowing you can do. This is significant because clinical degrees require a crap ton of money to run teaching hospitals.

So to counter to your point, Being a professional degree or not being a professional degree doesn't eliminate the fact that a level 1 trauma center needs 500 nurses. That's nonon-negotiable. And they can't afford to pay them less because they simply won't show up. They have travel contracts available to them to go to better markets.


It's so bad that
in order to incentivize nurses to do the job and make up shifts for their missing peers ; the nurses get generous incentives. To give you an example of what I mean, most major hospital systems have a system in place where if a nurse works a double he/her base salary is multiplied several times over . And this is pre pre-overtime. Now add in the overtime because the existing nurses must do more work and you'll see how horrible this is for the healthcare system.


In many states it's not uncommon for nurses to actually be out earning MDs in internal medicine or pediatrics or psychiatry because of these incentives. For example the highest paid public employees in California and New York for multiple years running are nurses . It is not uncommon to see nurses both bedside bs degreed nurses and advanced practice nurses MSN or DNP to be bringing in 300k or more in the coastal regions. 2 years ago a few were making 400k and out earning whole surgeons in new York because they were willing to come and do shifts others wouldn't do.



So all of these are the reasons why the pay won't go down . Furthermore the nurse unions and bargaining power has never been better because the current system is horribly tilted in favor of their lobbying groups.
 
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Actually very very very very impossible.
The nurses get paid a lot because they're needed and there is a shortage. All this will do is squeeze the supply of nurses further because nurses can't get the funding from financial aid to complete their education.There is an inelastic demand for nurses Because nursing is not easy work and the hospital collapses without them.

the professional distinction is only necessary because of the new financial aid cuts limiting the amount of borrowing you can do. This is significant because clinical degrees require a crap ton of money to run teaching hospitals.

So to counter to your point, Being a professional degree or not being a professional degree doesn't eliminate the fact that a level 1 trauma center needs 500 nurses. That's nonon-negotiable. And they can't afford to pay them less because they simply won't show up. They have travel contracts available to them to go to better markets.


It's so bad that
in order to incentivize nurses to do the job and make up shifts for their missing peers ; the nurses get generous incentives. To give you an example of what I mean, most major hospital systems have a system in place where if a nurse works a double he/her base salary is multiplied several times over . And this is pre pre-overtime. Now add in the overtime because the existing nurses must do more work and you'll see how horrible this is for the healthcare system.


In many states it's not uncommon for nurses to actually be out earning MDs in internal medicine or pediatrics or psychiatry because of these incentives. For example the highest paid public employees in California and New York for multiple years running are nurses and it is not uncommon to see nurses both bedside bs degreed nurses and advanced practice nurses MSN or DNP to be bringing in 300k or more in the coastal regions. 2 years ago a few were making 400k and out earning whole surgeons because they were willing to come and do shifts others wouldn't do.



So all of these are the reasons why the pay won't go down . Furthermore the nurse unions and bargaining power has never been better because the current system is horribly tilted in favor of their lobbying groups.

So, what's the Trump admins angle with all of this :dahell:

It's like because they cant fukk with them professionally, they'll just spite them :martin:
 

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As part of this implementation process, the Department of Education decided to change the definition of what counted as a professional program, and therefore eligible for the $200,000 aggregate limit available for professional students.
The department determined that the following programs were professional: medicine, pharmacy, dentistry, optometry, law, veterinary medicine, osteopathic medicine, podiatry, chiropractic, theology and clinical psychology.
This should definitely not be on this list
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I think i can see the play here. :patrice:

This might be a bit cynical of me but I imagine what they're going to do is create an even bigger shortage and then use it as justification to bring in Indian nurses. And then they're going to gaslight the American population saying that we are stupid and we need great foreign minds to save us from our idiocy.
:wow:

They did this in Canada so I can't see why they wouldn't do it in America.

The Liberal federal governmwnt here brought in a bunch of Indians to work certain jobs during covid times because they said we were too lazy or didn't want to do those jobs.

Well now the economy is bad, and kids can't get summer jobs because 35 year old Sandhu and Purdeet took all the entry level jobs denying our own kids opportunities. They did this in the skilled trades sector too. Now we finally cancelled the program and are sending them back home.

Now they are protesting to stay like they have a right to stay here :mjlol:

CB, a large Canadian news org, shut off comments because they are cowards and don't like the criticism they get.

 

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They did this in Canada so I can't see why they wouldn't do it in America.

The Liberal federal governmwnt here brought in a bunch of Indians to work certain jobs during covid times because they said we were too lazy or didn't want to do those jobs.

Well now the economy is bad, and kids can't get summer jobs because 35 year old Sandhu and Purdeet took all the entry level jobs denying our own kids opportunities. They did this in the skilled trades sector too. Now we finally cancelled the program and are sending them back home.

Now they are protesting to stay like they have a right to stay here :mjlol:

CB, a large Canadian news org, shut off comments because they are cowards and don't like the criticism they get.



There are a few CAN posters here, and I think I remember dudes saying that the various programs had huge numbers of applicants using fraud and deceit to game the system.
The student visa system for sure, but likely the employment programs too.

Well intentioned, but poorly screened, and bad actors crawled under the loopholes. Similar to the PPP program for businesses here during the pandemic.
 

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NP programs do not and should not take $200k in loans. This doesn’t affect the undergraduate programs.
 

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There are a few CAN posters here, and I think I remember dudes saying that the various programs had huge numbers of applicants using fraud and deceit to game the system.
The student visa system for sure, but likely the employment programs too.

Well intentioned, but poorly screened, and bad actors crawled under the loopholes. Similar to the PPP program for businesses here during the pandemic.
The program was poorly planned, poorly executed, and now I believe implemented in bad faith. It was clearly a WEF davos project initiative that negatively impacted the Canadian economy and its people.

Indian hatred is very real here now because of Justin Trudeau and his stupid immigration policies that are still reaking havoc here today.

We now have an Indian gang problem here, and the Indian government is using them to assasinate certain individuals on Canadian soil.

It is a total mess here now.
 
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