People in these communities have been fighting to address the root issues longer than most people here have been alive. The idea that music is the first target is just not true.
NYC Mayor Adams not a fan of violent Hip Hop music
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People in these communities have been fighting to address the root issues longer than most people here have been alive. The idea that music is the first target is just not true.
BK The Great
Veteran
BK The Great
Veteran
But there’s other violent music out there too that isn’t drill. Even regular hip hop is poison. Nobody likes the positive stuff so they rather be entertained by the violent junk. Other genres also have that violent factor to it.
But violence in movies and TV shows is ok right. The music is a reflection of the lives people are living. If everyone came up trust fund babies nobody would be rapping about violence.
Human beings find entertainment in violence. To pretend otherwise is just to be in denial about what human nature is.
dat aint da same sandwich
links wid dem grits
Good. Drill music is demonic shyt. Way worse than what gangsta rap ever was.
When it comes to rap and drill specific, the draw is the authenticity. They hear one side dissing the other and then people on either side literally die. Comparing that dynamic to movies and TV is laughable at best.
voltronblack
Superstar
For context of what he mean by that
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The Biden-Thurmond bill increased penalties for drugs, including expanding civil asset forfeiture; created a sentencing commission; and eradicated parole at the federal level. It sought to limit access to bail — a provision denounced by the ACLU for “revers[ing] the presumption of innocence.” After the bill passed by huge majorities in the Senate and House (with the parole and bail provisions removed by the House), a question lingered: Would the president, who had in recent months agreed to pursue crime legislation largely in line with the Biden-Thurmond bill, sign it? Reagan had a major sticking point: He opposed Biden’s desired “drug czar” position. Despite a lobbying blitz from Biden and Thurmond, which Biden memorialized in his eulogy for the South Carolina senator, and despite Biden’s support of Reagan’s tax cuts and slashing of social welfare spending, Reagan vetoed the Biden-Thurmond bill, even while advisers fretted about undermining the president’s tough on crime credentials.
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As Biden pushed Republicans to spend more on policing and prisons, he was part of a wave of “New Democrats” pushing the party in evermore punitive directions. Now, with upward of one in every two families having suffered the harms of mass incarceration, Biden says he worries that “too many people are incarcerated.”
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
Before there were Black billionaires and NBA/NFL Black millionaires, Black cable networks, Black Presidents and Vice Presidents, Black folk at malls purchasing Louis Vuitton and Balenciaga, how come popular Black music (that topped the music charts) was so much more uplifting years ago?
Also, this music happened during a period when economic and social conditions within our communities improved in comparison to what they had been in decades prior. Coincidence?
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Drill music is kind of trash, its like its purposely trying to fit the sterotype that they used to say about rap back in the day, that said its not really gonna reduce crime much imo. and usually these politicians will stop at just censoring music and not do anything else to materially help.
also im not gonna call adams a "c00n" but hes for sure right wing, hes a pig and he used to be a republican like not that long ago. but i dont think his opinion on this makes him a c00n unless he starts using right wing arguments to argue against drill music
also i was once watching some white guy give a talk saying like what other music , i dont buy johnny cash, i mean im not sooo familir with his work but shooting one person isnt the same as bascially a fratrecide as someone said. i dont think older rap even what was called gangster rap was even close to whats happeneing now with this. even though there was some violence surrounding the music in real life and i feel like mostly fake death threats on record. but this white guy was saying like what other race or group of people has genocidal music being made millions off of it ? they wouldnt allow cac or asians to be doing this. someone would stop it like no we cant have OUR kids being influenced. I mean like 99 percent of the reason they wanted to censor rap in the 90s is just cause white kids were being influenced, they didnt give two fukks about the reprecussions on black people. they prob figured yeah whites will buy it but more like a fascination then actually being influenced , then they got scared. I mean you can even see in rap itself a dude will have a whole discography of kiling black people but he talk about robbing one chinese person and sudeenly that song needs to be banned.
also im not gonna call adams a "c00n" but hes for sure right wing, hes a pig and he used to be a republican like not that long ago. but i dont think his opinion on this makes him a c00n unless he starts using right wing arguments to argue against drill music
also i was once watching some white guy give a talk saying like what other music , i dont buy johnny cash, i mean im not sooo familir with his work but shooting one person isnt the same as bascially a fratrecide as someone said. i dont think older rap even what was called gangster rap was even close to whats happeneing now with this. even though there was some violence surrounding the music in real life and i feel like mostly fake death threats on record. but this white guy was saying like what other race or group of people has genocidal music being made millions off of it ? they wouldnt allow cac or asians to be doing this. someone would stop it like no we cant have OUR kids being influenced. I mean like 99 percent of the reason they wanted to censor rap in the 90s is just cause white kids were being influenced, they didnt give two fukks about the reprecussions on black people. they prob figured yeah whites will buy it but more like a fascination then actually being influenced , then they got scared. I mean you can even see in rap itself a dude will have a whole discography of kiling black people but he talk about robbing one chinese person and sudeenly that song needs to be banned.
jwonder
Superstar
If the violence and gun toting was talking about Cacs, I'd be cool with it. But this shyt gotta stop at this point. I was once ignorant and liked that type of hip hop, but the shyt is just senseless and ignorant.
But the Mayor is focusing on the wrong thing. How about getting positive programs and cleaning up the drug infested areas? Banning the music ain't going to do shyt. Changing the culture will.
But the Mayor is focusing on the wrong thing. How about getting positive programs and cleaning up the drug infested areas? Banning the music ain't going to do shyt. Changing the culture will.
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jwonder
Superstar
This is music for the slightly retarded. It's funny how a skinny crackhead feminine looking fakkit like this could actually be respected. This is why rap is so trash now. He definitely needs an arsenal. I know his hand game is
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
My biggest problem with Drill Music isn't that it exists
It's that non Black people, and suburban Black people are making money off ot
Like TrapGeeks, Akademiks, etc
Then shytting on the rappers and saying they need to stop the violence
It's become too mainstream
Get rid of it
It's that non Black people, and suburban Black people are making money off ot
Like TrapGeeks, Akademiks, etc
Then shytting on the rappers and saying they need to stop the violence
It's become too mainstream
Get rid of it
jwonder
Superstar
Somewhere along the lines the music took a dark turn. I remember seeing an LL Cool J interview where he was asked why doesn't he rap about things like Grand Master Flash. He was like no no no. Kids see that every day they need something to make them happy. They don't wanna hear that when the see that all the time. Thinking about it he had a really good point. The uplifting black music brought a culture of black people being more kinder to each other also vs today. All this shyt is by design. Anything to destroy and tear down positive black greatness.