NYPD killed another unarmed black man, cop claims he was "startled"

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@Snoop Dogg says all of that but a few months ago he was focusing on the looting and trying to shift the focus of the story to that and other classic white supremacist deflections. :beli: And even threw in the lazy assumption that we blindly support Obama here when that is far from the truth. Especially when Obama has nothing to do with this story.

And even worse, this idiot believed Zimmerman's ducktales and Officer Wilson's ducktales about Mike Brown charging at the police. fukk out of here.
 
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@Snoop Dogg says all of that but a few months ago he was focusing on the looting and trying to shift the focus of the story to that and other classic white supremacist deflections. :beli: And even threw in the lazy assumption that we blindly support Obama here when that is far from the truth. Especially when Obama has nothing to do with this story.

And even worse, this idiot believed Zimmerman's ducktales and Officer Wilson's ducktales about Mike Brown charging at the police. fukk out of here.

How do you explain 95% of blacks voting for him then?
 

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@Snoop Dogg says all of that but a few months ago he was focusing on the looting and trying to shift the focus of the story to that and other classic white supremacist deflections. :beli: And even threw in the lazy assumption that we blindly support Obama here when that is far from the truth. Especially when Obama has nothing to do with this story.

And even worse, this idiot believed Zimmerman's ducktales and Officer Wilson's ducktales about Mike Brown charging at the police. fukk out of here.

just trying to be objective breh. I mean im not that sure about Mike Brown, but I watched a lot of the Trayvon trial, and its pretty obvious when the only eye witness says you were slamming someones head into concrete, its self defense. I never said race is irrelevant to profiling or police brutality though, and I have far better solutions for them than you cuz you have none, all you do is play the race card.
 
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My problem is a lot of people, on this site and in general, are complaining about police brutality while not realizing it is essentially a necessary consequence of having a basic police state in the US today.

You can't support Obama and claim to be an opponent of police brutality.

I don't want to hear any of this 'theres nothing he can do" bullshyt. He keeps the drug war going cuz he's corrupt like the rest of the recent US presidents, the drug war is the main way black people are harassed and treated unfairly today on the basis of race.

He makes no attempts to stop mandatory-minimum sentencing.

Not to mention the entire phenomenon of sustaining poverty for votes with the inflation tax via quantitative easing that most people know absolutely nothing about.

Libertarian/Anarchy policies will actually address the problem of inequality of race in the US but they are blindly disregarded because mostly white people describe themselves as Libertarian. Black people are letting the emotion of having a black president blind them to the harm h e is doing to the black community, and in general.
I believe police brutality is a multi-layered problem. Officers are not equiped for the job.

Trainin' should be more in line with lawyers & psychiatrist... advanced degree necessary. It's a demandin' & dangerous job. They should be trained & paid accordingly.

And the process of investigatin' & punishin' offenders needs to be corrected. IMO, the lack of punishment is tied to expectations & lack of skills of officers. They're allowed to do what they do because they're not trained to do better. Address the trainin' & they can address the punishment process.

What the goverment's roll in that is, I'll leave to you all. IMO, government responds to money & power. It doesn't matter who's in office. They're goin' to act in accordance to the powers that be.

I put it on us. We need to educated ourselves on the money system & build our character/spirit. When we learn how to make money (not get jobs) & think collectively (amongst other things), we'll have the money & power to influence the system. IMO, the power is not in the votin'. It's in selectin' & influencin' candidates.

As for Obama, he serves as another small step for Black folks. His election gives black folks somethin' to look up to besides athletes & entertainers. His success shows white folks we can operate at the highest levels of government. But again, IMO, any government official is limited by the will of the powers that be.
 

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Blacks also voted in similar numbers for Clinton, Kerry, Gore, and Dukakis...

That's every election in my lifetime. What's your point here?

His points are garbage. He uses the same white supremacist deflections and acts like he's dropping knowledge. :mjlol:

And he knows damn well that if Herman Cain got the Republican nod and there was a white Democrat running against him, black people would not jump ship.

And he's a Ron Paul ass kisser and his racist ass just exposed himself not too long ago.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/24/ron-paul-food-stamps_n_6748508.html

Ron Paul: Congressional Black Caucus Opposed War Because They Wanted To Spend Money On Food Stamps Instead
 
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I believe police brutality is a multi-layered problem. Officers are not equiped for the job.

Trainin' should be more in line with lawyers & psychiatrist... advanced degree necessary. It's a demandin' & dangerous job. They should be trained & paid accordingly.

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That is completely unrealistic... lawyers and psychiatrists make around $50-5000 dollars an HOUR. Theres no money for that...

The practical solution should be to end counterproductive drug laws and gun laws, so police are only used when they are asked to do something to prevent violence or catch people doing violent crime.

"IMO, government responds to money & power. It doesn't matter who's in office. They're goin' to act in accordance to the powers that be.
I put it on us. We need to educated ourselves on the money system & build our character/spirit. When we learn how to make money (not get jobs) & think collectively (amongst other things), we'll have the money & power to influence the system. IMO, the power is not in the votin'. It's in selectin' & influencin' candidates. As for Obama, he serves as another small step for Black folks. His election gives black folks somethin' to look up to besides athletes & entertainers. His success shows white folks we can operate at the highest levels of government. But again, IMO, any government official is limited by the will of the powers that be."

Money plays a roll in elections but the US still has fair elections that produce noticeable results. The problem is the mainstream republican and democrat candidates end up supporting the same things because they are paid for by overlapping lobbyists. You are wrong about ANY government official being limited by these powers though. JFK was an obvious example at the national level and there are many local and state officials that are good people with integrity. Ron Paul would have improved the situation for all Americans, but perhaps blacks in particular by ending minimum sentencing, death penalty, drug war, the inflation tax (GOOGLE THIS IF YOU DONT KNOW IT), and expensive wars.
 

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How do you explain 95% of blacks voting for him then?
Most black people vote Democrat, simple as that. Why the fukk would any black person vote for a present day Republican?

And even if black people did vote for Obama just because he's black, it's okay in my opinion because there has never been a black president in this country's 250+ years of existence before him.

just trying to be objective breh. I mean im not that sure about Mike Brown, but I watched a lot of the Trayvon trial, and its pretty obvious when the only eye witness says you were slamming someones head into concrete, its self defense. I never said race is irrelevant to profiling or police brutality though, and I have far better solutions for them than you cuz you have none, all you do is play the race card.
If he slammed his head into the concrete, he would have been injured far worse and not have been able to shoot Trayvon. Have you ever fell and hit the back of your head on the ground? Imagine that pain but way worse, plus being knocked unconscious most likely.
 

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Blacks also voted in similar numbers for Clinton, Kerry, Gore, and Dukakis...

That's every election in my lifetime. What's your point here?

The only time that high of a % of black people EVER voted for Democrats was for LBJ during the Civil Rights Act.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...in-obamas-presidential-elections-in-2-charts/

Think about it, the President favoring the racist drug war, the invasion of various middle eastern countries (most of the military is black), favors quantitative easing, which is printing trillions of dollars to banks and devaluing poor people's currency, that is corporate welfare (again google inflation tax), favors a police state where police have the right to search your home without a warrant for things people should have a right to like guns and harmless drugs.

The point being, in my opinion, his policies are all noticeably detrimental to the black community, yet he's picking up more black voters than the man who passed the Civil Rights Act.
 

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just trying to be objective breh. I mean im not that sure about Mike Brown, but I watched a lot of the Trayvon trial, and its pretty obvious when the only eye witness says you were slamming someones head into concrete, its self defense. I never said race is irrelevant to profiling or police brutality though, and I have far better solutions for them than you cuz you have none, all you do is play the race card.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that you are white. Am I correct?
 

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Most black people vote Democrat, simple as that. Why the fukk would any black person vote for a present day Republican?

And even if black people did vote for Obama just because he's black, it's okay in my opinion because there has never been a black president in this country's 250+ years of existence before him.


If he slammed his head into the concrete, he would have been injured far worse and not have been able to shoot Trayvon. Have you ever fell and hit the back of your head on the ground? Imagine that pain but way worse, plus being knocked unconscious most likely.

Why is the assumption that if you don't vote democrat you must vote republican. Libertarians are a third option. Even the Green party would be better than the fukking democrats... I didn't say blacks voted for him because hes black, although some obviously did, my point is just theres no real point for black people to vote for him, yet they do, so its based on emotion and misinformation, and most of all lethargic 'lesser of two evils' mentalities.

"If he slammed his head into the concrete, he would have been injured far worse and not have been able to shoot Trayvon. Have you ever fell and hit the back of your head on the ground? Imagine that pain but way worse, plus being knocked unconscious most likely."

I dunno, I saw the pictures in the trial and it looked like what I would expect to see from getting your head hit a couple times. I've had it happen to myself actually. The thing is when people do this to you, you are doing everything you can to resist with your neck and upper back, they cant just free-slam your head like a pumpkin.
 

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The only time that high of a % of black people EVER voted for Democrats was for LBJ during the Civil Rights Act.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...in-obamas-presidential-elections-in-2-charts/

Think about it, the President favoring the racist drug war, the invasion of various middle eastern countries (most of the military is black), favors quantitative easing, which is printing trillions of dollars to banks and devaluing poor people's currency, that is corporate welfare (again google inflation tax), favors a police state where police have the right to search your home without a warrant for things people should have a right to like guns and harmless drugs.

The point being, in my opinion, his policies are all noticeably detrimental to the black community, yet he's picking up more black voters than the man who passed the Civil Rights Act.

Do you think more blacks have voted democratic or republican in the past 5-6 presidents? Please answer this
 

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The only time that high of a % of black people EVER voted for Democrats was for LBJ during the Civil Rights Act.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...in-obamas-presidential-elections-in-2-charts/

Think about it, the President favoring the racist drug war, the invasion of various middle eastern countries (most of the military is black), favors quantitative easing, which is printing trillions of dollars to banks and devaluing poor people's currency, that is corporate welfare (again google inflation tax), favors a police state where police have the right to search your home without a warrant for things people should have a right to like guns and harmless drugs.

The point being, in my opinion, his policies are all noticeably detrimental to the black community, yet he's picking up more black voters than the man who passed the Civil Rights Act.
I'm pretty sure something like 90% of black people voted for Al Gore, that's only 3 percentage points less than the percentage of black people who voted for Obama last election.
 

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just trying to be objective breh. I mean im not that sure about Mike Brown, but I watched a lot of the Trayvon trial, and its pretty obvious when the only eye witness says you were slamming someones head into concrete, its self defense. I never said race is irrelevant to profiling or police brutality though, and I have far better solutions for them than you cuz you have none, all you do is play the race card.

So basically you believe Trayvon caused his own death right? :beli:
 
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