NYTIMES: The USA is balls deep in Russia Power Grid...and they didn't tell Trump

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:mjlol: @ going rogue. Do you all realize how ridiculous you all sound?

The intelligence agencies are doing what they typically would do in the face of foreign attack. The actions themselves are not out of the ordinary, the fact that the current president doesn't have the sense or desire to authorize the actions because of his relationship with foreign nation state in question.

It's amazing how the "what if" precedent machine starts to show its head when it's convenient but then there is dead silence when Trump is sh*trying on well established precedent.
 

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Keep pretending rogue intel agencies are a good thing.

They're not "rogue", they're taking actions that Congress gave them the legal authority to take. :heh:

The only unusual thing here is that they just don't trust the current POTUS enough to keep him in the loop.
 

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:mjlol: @ going rogue. Do you all realize how ridiculous you all sound?

They're not "rogue", they're taking actions that Congress gave them the legal authority to take. :heh:

The only unusual thing here is that they just don't trust the current POTUS enough to keep him in the loop.
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But the action inside the Russian electric grid appears to have been conducted under little noticed new authorities, slipped into the military authorization bill passed by congress last summer.

Under the law, those actions can now be authorized by the defense secretary without special presidential approval.

I wasn't aware military action could take place without the approval of the commander in chief. That makes "rouge" the wrong word, but... Learn something new everyday.:patrice:

But Trump signed the law, so in theory he does approve it...
 
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From the article:




I wasn't aware military action could take place without the approval of the commander in chief. That makes "rouge" the wrong word, but... Learn something new everyday.:patrice:

But Trump signed the law, so in theory he does approve it...

Then you haven't been paying attention because Congress is the authorizing body for war of any kind. That only recently was subverted because of 9/11.

So essentially Congress slid one in on Trump because they know he doesn't read anything just signs what he is told to sign. That makes the actions that much more legit.
 

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Then you haven't been paying attention because Congress is the authorizing body for war of any kind. That only recently was subverted because of 9/11.

So essentially Congress slid one in on Trump because they know he doesn't read anything just signs what he is told to sign. That makes the actions that much more legit.

You haven't been paying attention. Congress hasn't declared war since 1942. :mjlol:


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From Wiki

On at least 125 occasions, the President has acted without prior express military authorization from Congress.[26] These include instances in which the United States fought in the Philippine–American War from 1898–1903, in Nicaragua in 1927, as well as the NATO bombing campaign of Yugoslavia in 1999, and the 2017 missile strikes on Syria.
 
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You haven't been paying attention. Congress hasn't declared war since 1942. :mjlol:


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From Wiki

You seem to be missing the point - it doesn't matter what Congress hasn't done since 1942 - the authority is theirs so them authorizing the intelligence agencies to act in the interest of the country is nothing close to being "rogue".

U.S. Senate: Official Declarations of War by Congress

The Constitution grants Congress the sole power to declare war. Congress has declared war on 11 occasions, including its first declaration of war with Great Britain in 1812. Congress approved its last formal declaration of war during World War II. Since that time it has agreed to resolutions authorizing the use of military force and continues to shape U.S. military policy through appropriations and oversight.
 
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