Obama Makes Excuses for Abandoning Single-Payer Health Insurance - a video

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David Sirota explains why Barack Obama backed away from single-payer healthcare and what it reveals about the insurance industry’s influence over Democratic politics.



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Companies hate single-payer because it shifts power and money away from them. Right now, private insurers and the healthcare industry profit massively off a fragmented, complicated system. Every bill, denial, and copay is a business model. A single-payer system—like “Medicare for All”—would undercut that.

Here’s the breakdown:

Why companies hate it:

  1. Profit loss: Private insurers make billions off premiums, deductibles, and billing complexity. A single-payer model eliminates their role.
  2. Lobby power: The healthcare, pharma, and insurance lobbies are some of the strongest in Washington. They fight hard to keep their cash flow.
  3. Employer leverage: Big companies use health insurance as a way to keep workers tied to their jobs. If health coverage came automatically through taxes, people could leave bad jobs more easily.
  4. Control: They like being able to design plans that limit coverage, restrict networks, and push costs onto you. Keeps margins high.
How it would benefit you:

  1. Guaranteed coverage: No more job-based insurance roulette. You’re covered, period.
  2. Lower personal cost: You’d pay more through taxes but less overall—no premiums, copays, or surprise bills.
  3. Simpler care: One card, one system. No networks or denials for “out of coverage.”
  4. Freedom to move: You could change jobs or start a business without losing your healthcare.
  5. Negotiated prices: The government could use its size to force drug and hospital costs down.
The trade-off:
Higher taxes, yes—but for most people, total yearly cost would drop. The real barrier isn’t math—it’s politics. The people who profit now don’t want it to change.


AI video transcript because I forget where I post some times:

### Summary


The video transcript centers on a candid discussion about Barack Obama’s stance and actions regarding healthcare reform and broader political corruption, with a focus on single-payer healthcare and pharmaceutical pricing policies. Obama defended his failure to push for single-payer healthcare during his presidency by citing a lack of sufficient votes in Congress, suggesting that incremental improvements through the Affordable Care Act (ACA) were a pragmatic alternative. However, the conversation reveals deeper systemic issues, highlighting how powerful industries—such as private health insurance and pharmaceutical companies—influence political decisions through what is described as “soft corruption.” This form of corruption operates not just through direct financial transactions but through the looming threat of political retaliation by well-funded industries, which deters lawmakers from pursuing policies that would harm those industries’ interests.The transcript also recounts an earlier personal political disillusionment experienced during the Clinton administration’s handling of a bill allowing Americans to buy prescription drugs from Canada, which was ultimately blocked by a last-minute bureaucratic loophole favoring pharmaceutical companies. This story underscores the persistent influence of corporate money and lobbying power in shaping and often stalling progressive reforms. The discussion ties these historical and contemporary examples to a larger narrative about the limits of political idealism in the face of entrenched financial interests and the challenges of democratic governance.

### Highlights

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Barack Obama admitted he couldn’t push single-payer healthcare due to lack of Congressional votes.

- 💸 Political opposition to single-payer healthcare partly driven by protecting insurance industry jobs.

- 💰 “Soft corruption” describes how industries deter lawmakers by threatening political consequences without direct bribes. - 🏛️ Powerful industries like Wall Street and pharma influence politics by spending on elections and lobbying.

- 🇨🇦 A bill to allow Americans to buy cheaper Canadian drugs was blocked by a last-minute loophole under Clinton.

- 🤝 Incremental reform (e.g., ACA) seen as pragmatic but falls short of universal healthcare goals.

- 😔 Political idealism often clashes with realpolitik and entrenched corporate power.

### Key Insights

- 🏥 **Pragmatism vs. Idealism in Healthcare Reform:** Obama’s defense of the ACA over single-payer healthcare reveals a pragmatic approach to policymaking within the constraints of Congressional politics. This pragmatism is necessary in a divided political environment but may lead to compromises that fall short of transformative change. The ACA expanded coverage but did not remove profit motives from healthcare, reflecting the challenge of enacting sweeping reform in the face of political realities. This tension between idealism and pragmatism is a core dilemma in democratic governance.

- 💼 **Industry Jobs as a Political Shield:** The insurance industry’s large employment footprint creates a political shield against reforms like single-payer healthcare. Politicians, including Obama as a senator, expressed concern about the impact on jobs in their home states, which can be a powerful deterrent to challenging entrenched interests. This illustrates how economic dependency on certain industries creates political inertia, even when broader public benefits might be significant.

- 💰 **Soft Corruption and Political Influence:** The concept of “soft corruption” highlights a subtle yet pervasive mechanism by which industries maintain influence—not necessarily through overt bribery but by signaling that opposing their interests will result in costly political consequences. This dynamic creates a chilling effect, where elected officials preemptively avoid challenging powerful sectors to protect their careers, thus shaping policy outcomes without direct transactions.

- 🏛️ **The Role of Money in Politics:** The discussion emphasizes the outsized influence of corporate money in American politics. Industries strategically invest in elections to protect their interests, sending a clear message that opposition will be met with financial and political retaliation. This dynamic undermines democratic accountability and limits the scope of feasible reforms, as politicians are incentivized to align with powerful donors rather than constituents.

- 🇨🇦 **Pharmaceutical Industry’s Political Power:** The recounting of the Clinton-era drug importation bill shows how the pharmaceutical industry uses legislative loopholes and bureaucratic mechanisms to block reforms that threaten profits. Even when laws pass Congress, powerful industries can exploit technicalities to delay or prevent implementation, demonstrating the complexity of enacting reforms in sectors with entrenched corporate interests.

- 🤝 **Incrementalism as a Double-Edged Sword:** Incremental reforms such as the ACA represent achievable progress in a difficult political environment. However, they may also entrench existing systems and reduce momentum for more radical change like single-payer healthcare. This raises important questions about the strategy of pursuing smaller victories versus holding out for comprehensive solutions in social policy.

- 😔 **Political Disillusionment and Democratic Cynicism:** The narrative reflects a broader theme of political disillusionment, where repeated failures to enact meaningful reforms lead to public cynicism and disengagement. This cynicism can threaten democratic participation and weaken efforts to push for systemic change. Understanding the psychological and political consequences of such disillusionment is critical for revitalizing democratic movements. ### Conclusion The transcript offers a nuanced examination of the complex interplay between political pragmatism, corporate influence, and reform efforts in American healthcare and drug policy. It reveals how entrenched interests and “soft corruption” mechanisms limit the scope of policy innovation, forcing politicians like Obama to choose incrementalism over transformative change. The historical example of the blocked drug importation bill underlines that these dynamics have deep roots and persist across administrations and policy areas. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the challenges facing democratic governance when powerful industries wield disproportionate influence, and the resulting tensions between political idealism and realpolitik that continue to shape US policy debates.
 
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So how was he influenced to abandon it?

What excuses did he give for abandoning it?
 

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So how was he influenced to abandon it?

What excuses did he give for abandoning it?
"Everybody who supports single-payer health care says, 'Look at all this money we would be saving from insurance and paperwork.' That represents 1 million, 2 million, 3 million jobs of people who are working at Blue Cross Blue Shield or Kaiser or other places. What are we doing with them? Where are we employing them?"

 

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Let me break it down for you in a completely unbiased manner.

What he is saying does perfectly make moral and practical sense. Unfortunately morality and practicality is out of scope for him and most presidents.
He's saying he has to work with checks and balances, that makes sense and is democratic.

Unfortunately like most presidents checks and balances are only considered when a policy is for the people.
However when it's for the rich and powerful there's no such consideration.
They'll sneak bills in, threaten to shut down govt, or do an executive order. They'll do anything for billionaires but will always say it's not easy when it's for the people.
 

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So how was he influenced to abandon it?

What excuses did he give for abandoning it?
Added an AI video transcript of the YouTube video, though it did miss some things such as Obama mentioning when running for senator, he claimed that all we needed was the Senate and the House and we could get things done.

The Democrats had the Senate and The House for a year and six months during one of his terms.

But I digress.
 

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Excuses? Its just reality. Single payer health insurance will never pass Congress. You work on what you think is possible.
 

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Excuses? Its just reality. Single payer health insurance will never pass Congress. You work on what you think is possible.

Do you know how often he bypassed congress?
There was Obamacare Industry Subsidies and Waivers, he gave waivers to select companies that were owned or had ties to the rich and powerful that waived the need for the affordable care act requirements, and for insurance companies he gave Billions of dollars to offset their affordable care act loses by bypassing congress.

There was also when Bush started the bailouts and then Obama continued it and expanded it, that bypassed congress.

On his way out in his last term he bypassed congress in pushing like hundreds of new regulations that favored large corps at the expense of smaller companies.
Also there was Dodd-Frank Enforcement Loopholes favoring wallstreet, again bypassing congress.

And many more....

Presidents bypass congress regularly, just like at wars.
The last war that went through congress was Pearl Harbor if my memory serves me right, tho i could be wrong
 

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There were many things Obama backed off of whether his ethos changed mid-way or he was out of options. ANYTIME someone is mentioning no Single Payer, you can't just Mention Obama by name and not a mothafukka named Joe Lieberman


Lieberman, 67, used his deciding vote in Congress to help strip out a provision for government-run medical insurance, intended to set up competition to the abuses of private companies, by threatening to filibuster the legislation.

Senate leaders agreed to drop the public option for all in favour of allowing people over 55 to buy into an existing government-run scheme for the elderly. In September, Lieberman supported the measure, as he had when he was Al Gore's running mate. But just as it seemed that a deal was done, Lieberman scuppered it by announcing that he had changed his mind and would block any bill that expanded government insurance coverage. Obama gave way.

Some of Lieberman's critics see his stance on healthcare as shaped by his acceptance of more than $1m in campaign contributions from the medical insurance industry during his 21 years in the Senate.

There are a lot of things in retrospect that I learned were just not in his power and he shot his wad so hard on getting the ACA passed that it killed a bunch of pie-in-the-sky shyt he had folks believing he would do. It wasn't that he didn't want to, but when the opposition came against him at an all-time rate, he went straight to making deals. Making deals is great for getting *something* done but it didn't do anything else majorly transformative.

That said, I directly benefitted from a number of laws passed during his time so I am not one of those people who bytch and moan, but his Presidency was not only a giant wasted opportunity, it also showed that anything of real consequence was simply not going to pass no matter how much he pushed. Mind you, Citizens United happened during his term. It was the beginning of the end when suddenly anyone who didn't like the way he looked at them could put millions in PACs to smear him.
 

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Do you know how often he bypassed congress?
There was Obamacare Industry Subsidies and Waivers, he gave waivers to select companies that were owned or had ties to the rich and powerful that waived the need for the affordable care act requirements, and for insurance companies he gave Billions of dollars to offset their affordable care act loses by bypassing congress.

There was also when Bush started the bailouts and then Obama continued it and expanded it, that bypassed congress.

On his way out in his last term he bypassed congress in pushing like hundreds of new regulations that favored large corps at the expense of smaller companies.
Also there was Dodd-Frank Enforcement Loopholes favoring wallstreet, again bypassing congress.

And many more....

Presidents bypass congress regularly, just like at wars.
The last war that went through congress was Pearl Harbor if my memory serves me right, tho i could be wrong
A President cannot do single payer via Executive Order. The courts would strike it down quickly since its obviously illegal.
 

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Added an AI video transcript of the YouTube video, though it did miss some things such as Obama mentioning when running for senator, he claimed that all we needed was the Senate and the House and we could get things done.

The Democrats had the Senate and The House for a year and six months during one of his terms.

But I digress.

On January 20th, 2009, 57 Senate seats were held by Democrats with 2 Independents (Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman) caucusing with the Democrats...which gave Democrats 59 mostly-reliable Democratic votes in the Senate, one shy of filibuster-proof "total control." Republicans held 41 seats.

The 59 number in January, 2009 included Ted Kennedy and Al Franken. Kennedy had a seizure during an Obama inaugural luncheon and never returned to vote in the Senate.....and Al Franken was not officially seated until July 7th, 2009 (hotly contested recount demanded by Norm Coleman.)

The real Democratic Senate seat number in January, 2009 was 55 Democrats plus 2 Independents equaling 57 Senate seats.

An aside....it was during this time that Obama's "stimulus" was passed. No Republicans in the House voted for the stimulus. However, in the Senate.....and because Democrats didn't have "total control" of that chamber.....three Republicans.....Snowe, Collins and Specter, voted to break a filibuster guaranteeing it's passage.

Then in April, 2009, Republican Senator Arlen Specter became a Democrat. Kennedy was still at home, dying, and Al Franken was still not seated. Score in April, 2009....Democratic votes 58.

In May, 2009, Robert Byrd got sick and did not return to the Senate until July 21, 2009. Even though Franken was finally seated July 7, 2009 and Byrd returned on July 21.....Democrats still only had 59 votes in the Senate because Kennedy never returned, dying on August 25, 2009.

Kennedy's empty seat was temporarily filled by Paul Kirk but not until September 24, 2009.

The swearing in of Kirk finally gave Democrats 60 votes (at least potentially) in the Senate. "Total control" of Congress by Democrats lasted all of 4 months. From September 24, 2009 through February 4, 2010...at which point Scott Brown, a Republican, was sworn in to replace Kennedy's Massachusetts seat.

The truth....then....is this: Democrats had "total control" of the House of Representatives from 2009-2011, 2 full years. Democrats, and therefore, Obama, had "total control" of the Senate from September 24, 2009 until February 4, 2010. A grand total of 4 months.

During the time he had that Supermajority, ACA passed. It was the biggest lift of his Presidency. As my other post mentioned, Joe Leiberman came in clutch to fukk it up. The same Joe who was later on that No Labels tip where Dems and Republicans looked for bipartisanship AKA watering down everything transformative.
 
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