Obama use to shyt on Russia heavy during his terms

[Professor Emeritus]

at the time he wasnt but russias intervention in ukraine really escalated the situation. medvedev also had much better relations with obama when he was president than putin did.

The main ways in which Russia has become a major foe of the United States are:

Russia's siding with Assad in the Syrian Civil War (began in 2011)

Russia's invasion of Ukraine (began in 2014)

Russia's interference with American elections (began in 2015)


None of those things were happening in 2008. Russia was doing nothing that would have made them America's "#1 Geopolitical Foe." A five-day conflict with Georgia was pretty much the height of antagonism with the USA, and it wasn't even direct.

In fact, in the early years of the Obama presidency the relationship was mainly characterized by a defusing of the whole Poland missile issue, coming together to sign the START treaty, and coming together to work on the Iran treaty. So Obama was right.

It was really the Ukraine issue that caused everything to blow up.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

The main ways in which Russia has become a major foe of the United States are:

Russia's siding with Assad in the Syrian Civil War (began in 2011)

Russia's invasion of Ukraine (began in 2014)

Russia's interference with American elections (began in 2015)


None of those things were happening in 2008. Russia was doing nothing that would have made them America's "#1 Geopolitical Foe." A five-day conflict with Georgia was pretty much the height of antagonism with the USA, and it wasn't even direct.

In fact, in the early years of the Obama presidency the relationship was mainly characterized by a defusing of the whole Poland missile issue, coming together to sign the START treaty, and coming together to work on the Iran treaty. So Obama was right.

It was really the Ukraine issue that caused everything to blow up.

the romney debate was in 2012 so the syrian civil war was ongoing. but i agree with you, overall russian US relations were relatively good at that point

 

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The main ways in which Russia has become a major foe of the United States are:

Russia's siding with Assad in the Syrian Civil War (began in 2011)

Russia's invasion of Ukraine (began in 2014)

Russia's interference with American elections (began in 2015)


None of those things were happening in 2008. Russia was doing nothing that would have made them America's "#1 Geopolitical Foe." A five-day conflict with Georgia was pretty much the height of antagonism with the USA, and it wasn't even direct.

In fact, in the early years of the Obama presidency the relationship was mainly characterized by a defusing of the whole Poland missile issue, coming together to sign the START treaty, and coming together to work on the Iran treaty. So Obama was right.

It was really the Ukraine issue that caused everything to blow up.

I honestly didn't think much of Russia up until 2013 when they granted asylum to Snowden...

Then it was like....uh Russia ...the fukk going on??

 

[Professor Emeritus]

the romney debate was in 2012 so the syrian civil war was ongoing. but i agree with you, overall russian US relations were relatively good at that point

Crap, yes, brain glitch there. In comparison to Trump all the moderate Republicans of the past just run together.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

Crap, yes, brain glitch there. In comparison to Trump all the moderate Republicans of the past just run together.

its crazy to think how different the republican partys relations with russia would be if romney won that election. trump wouldnt have ran in 2016, who knows if they wouldve tried to interfere...

 

[hashmander]

its crazy to think how different the republican partys relations with russia would be if romney won that election. trump wouldnt have ran in 2016, who knows if they wouldve tried to interfere...

yeah they would interfere to help the democrats.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

yeah they would interfere to help the democrats.

idk hillary probably wouldve run again and putin also hates her because she called out their rigged presidential election in 2012. but i could see them still promoting more fringe candidates in general

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Cliff notes? Not trying to spend an hour and 25 min on this breh.

 

[Shogun]

Cliff notes? Not trying to spend an hour and 25 min on this breh.

You should if you have some time, but basically what Russia did to us in 2016 is exactly what they did to Ukraine in 2014 and Georgia before that (re: propaganda strategies and cyber offensives), and that it's all part of a fairly coherent fascist idealogical foreign policy that aims to destroy the EU and NATO....so much so that Russian officers commanding the invasion of Ukraine are reported in interviews saying it was an invasion of the US.

 

[Wargames]

On the low he got us out of our economic Crisis by taking advantage of Russia doing stupid shyt.