Obamacare bout to get clapped

[DEAD7]

And you're still not getting it.

Support what you support and be done with it.

Stop dancing.

The fact that you(and everyone else) know exactly where I stand on the issue says I do...


Sooner or later, you will understand the need to converse across ideological lines, and grasp that these concessions and/or admissions are not 'support' for the other side, but ...
Here I go again.


Yes @Napoleon , I'll stay in my lane.

 

[Blackking]

We live in a capitalist society. What exactly did you all believe would happen.... they gonna break this thing down piece by piece. We will eventually have laws that say.... prison for not buying private health.

 

[the cac mamba]

fukk Obama and Obamacare. These nikkas keep sending me and my wife notifications to prove our citizenship or they finna drop our coverage when we are already US citizens.

tell em youll show your birth certificate when obama shows his

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The fact that you(and everyone else) know exactly where I stand on the issue says I do...


Sooner or later, you will understand the need to converse across ideological lines, and grasp that these concessions and/or admissions are not 'support' for the other side, but ...
Here I go again.


Yes @Napoleon , I'll stay in my lane.

What are you even blabbering about?

and why are you bringing up crossing ideological lines?

I support a notion for universal health care.

You don't. You never will. So don't pretend that you'd prefer it over what we have now when you'd never accept it if you were given the option to in the first place.

 

[Type Username Here]

Many in the working class benefit from the law. If you can't see how the expanded Medicaid measure is the blueprint for single payer in the future, dunno what to say. It's obvious.

People said the same thing about Medicare and Medicaid half a century ago.

For everyone's sake I hope you're right but I'm not going to hold my breath.

 

[Type Username Here]

fukk Obama and Obamacare. These nikkas keep sending me and my wife notifications to prove our citizenship or they finna drop our coverage when we are already US citizens.

That's a shame. What an immoral system.

 

[Family Man]

tell em youll show your birth certificate when obama shows his

 

[tru_m.a.c]

fukk Obama and Obamacare. These nikkas keep sending me and my wife notifications to prove our citizenship or they finna drop our coverage when we are already US citizens.

again...Obamacare is PPACA which is the entire legislation

A specific health insurer is asking you to prove your citizenship. Go beef with them.

 

[Piff Perkins]

People said the same thing about Medicare and Medicaid half a century ago.

For everyone's sake I hope you're right but I'm not going to hold my breath.

The hurdle was always the access point. Medicare is great...but you have to be 65. Medicaid is good...but you had to be poor. The Medicaid expansion blew a hole in that by making more people qualify for it, and also increasing reimbursement rates for doctors so they participate. The infrastructure is in place to keep upping the income limit, and to later get rid of it. Medicaid for child and adults, Medicare for elderly.

It's not going to happen overnight. I think people aren't peeping the genius of killing the negative perception Medicaid has always had as "poor people healthcare." It's helping the working class now, and will be expanded even more.

The other big thing the ACA set the stage for is killing employer insurance, which is a good thing. You shouldn't be fukked over if you lose your job because your healthcare is tied to it.

 

[DEAD7]

You don't. You never will. So don't pretend that you'd prefer it over what we have now when you'd never accept it if you were given the option to in the first place.

You thought I preferred it over the market?
Oh no, I prefer it over Obamash*t... which should tell you how bad Obamacare is.

 

[DEAD7]

That's a shame. What an immoral system.

 

[Type Username Here]

The hurdle was always the access point. Medicare is great...but you have to be 65. Medicaid is good...but you had to be poor. The Medicaid expansion blew a hole in that by making more people qualify for it, and also increasing reimbursement rates for doctors so they participate. The infrastructure is in place to keep upping the income limit, and to later get rid of it. Medicaid for child and adults, Medicare for elderly.

I'm all familiar with Democratic campaign slogans and promises regarding this issue. The fact is that a true legitimate expansion should have been sought from the start, not negotiated off the table in private in negotiations with private insurance companies.

It's not going to happen overnight. I think people aren't peeping the genius of killing the negative perception Medicaid has always had as "poor people healthcare." It's helping the working class now, and will be expanded even more.

People were asking for Medicaid expansion for decades. None of it has happened on anywhere near a scale that benefits most of the working class in this country. You know, the labor that funds the pockets of the government, makes the rich richer, and helps subsidized the poor. Much like education, they are the ones being royally fukked here.

The other big thing the ACA set the stage for is killing employer insurance, which is a good thing. You shouldn't be fukked over if you lose your job because your healthcare is tied to it.

"Setting the stage", "paving the path", blah blah. These are not absolutes. Like I previously mentioned, the country heard these same things 50 years ago. The Democratic Party on a Federal Level has shown time and time again that they are slave to corporate interests and this gives you faith that they will fight to make social progress on their own big business bill? I don't even know what to say to that line of thinking.

 

[Type Username Here]

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

on the real tho, our political system is so fukked, no one even cares about doing the right thing or pushing the best version of a bill forward, it's all about compromise, getting your earmarks in and building/changing political relationships. All of our politicians are bankers and businessmen not servants of the people.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

You thought I preferred it over the market?
Oh no, I prefer it over Obamash*t... which should tell you how bad Obamacare is.

As a libertarian you think the government broadly regulating a healthcare market is so bad you prefer the government to actually fund and control it?

And you don't see why Napolean is looking at you like you're borderline skizo?