Observations from a "Successful" Black Male

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Most artists are introverts or socially awkward. They come together because they share similar interests.

Another method is a friend that is an extrovert, make him a manager - I was just reading ASAP Rocky blew up because of Yams who had a popular blog, he's a die hard hiphop fan/hipster. He met Rocky and Rocky could tell dude had an eye for fresh things and things that were going to be popular. He had yams help him find that sweet spot, yams had him incorporate popular themes from all regions, from being egotistical (lil b), to purp and lean (south), to urban high fashion (big in Ny underground, now mainstream) , Yams helped him beat the gun, combine all the (what was then just hipster shyt) things that were going to be popular and push him. Yams just started off as a fan, and Rocky being charismatic told him he wanted him to be his 'director'. Yams isn't charismatic, he's not creative, but he has a great eye for creativity, and is very social, great at networking and loves art with the passion, he's the dude that is every where, at every event, knows everyone. you want that kinda person behind you. Artists tend to look unto other artists for that, and that just never works. Giving beats to other producers will just end up in critique, rather than a supporter. Ya gotta remember both are 2 creative minds, they'll either see competition, steal, envy or hate. Even if they are a fan of your work, why would they push you when they're trying to push their own work? see. It can only be a 'link' and work if one is very social (rare trait for artists) and the other is a follower willing to fall under that persons wing without taking any shine. (See present day rap groups, ghostwriters or designers that have subdesigners that work behind the scene under the banner)

There's a reason artists need labels/companies, they provide a marketing team. :wink:

But this is a new era. We have the internet, and most people are chasing that lucky lotto. or can afford a marketing team (I suspect rich ass Macklemore did this, gotta be) The best and more assuring thing to do is grind, start from bottom and build. Basically find a person or team/fan/fans/mouthpiece willing to back your creative brain, 1 that can network for you. In order to find those people, you have to either go outside or bombard the net with loads of material in underground (insert art) oriented sites. They are the people that are hardcore fans of (insert art) and don't mind listening to unknown people, they live and breath it, they're the backbone of the community, they're hipsters, always looking for the new, the fresh, they have tumblrs and pride themselves for being forward thinkers, they envy artists (because they love it but cant be it). find a person or 2 that see your vision, are a fan of your work, and would love to be on your team, if they contacted you, you know off top they're outgoing, see how easy that was :wink: A lot of times artists are too busy looking for a big break, when the 10 people that listened to your track, or love your music could be the people to help you grow. Make 10 turn into 100, by using the 10. Artists tend to not say thank you and overlooking them for someone that's already in the scene. Those 10 fans are more reliable than a cosign from C level artist who's technically your competitor.

Keef was only big on his block, then the set, then the gang, and those people shared his music to the next neighboring hood, who then showed their classmates, who then showed their cousins out of state. The buzz made everyone pay attention. When you buzz, artists will come, then labels/companies will come. That's how your buzz will grow, by cherishing, talking, and charming your tiny fanbase whether it be your block or the 4 people subscribed to you. The mistake many people make, they get 3 comments on their track and never look into the people that commented, never talk to them, never say thank you, never ask for their email/aim, they just ignore them and keep their eyes on the views. They want it easy.

You gotta build strong roots to have a healthy tree. You hear how Lil B blew up his based world? It wasnt overnight. Dude used to post 2 tracks a day and bombard his music on myspace. He had like 10 fans. He hit up those 10 fans and would shout them out, make a chat room, laugh it up with them. He was literally just making music for those 10, then 10 grew into 100. How do you think he got a cult following who had already known he was trolling 2 years before everyone else did? He was in tune with his core fans. Even til today you sometimes see Lil B on WSHH commenting on his video, replying to as many people as he can, saying thank you. Happy fans will rock with you heavy. Look at B no matter how many people called him wack, they pledged to him. 5 years later, you got TaskForce bytch mob, and other artists knocking on his door to get a feature and get some buzz dust off him. You hear how Odd Future was formed? Just a bunch of kids who met on myspace, and then hooked up while meeting other people along the way. . Just a bunch of no namers who had no more than 100 views having fun and having a small forum where they just had fun. Tylers hipster fans rocked with him, hipste fans of all parties combined to make one big core fanbase. Tyler is charismatic so he kept everyone interested, always kept his fans happy, then those hipsters showed other hipsters, (if they think its cool it must be really cool mentality), the masses will eventually catch on.


As for myself, my problem, is I'm a perfectionist, I let my folks down all the time, people will hit me up like "you got any new designs? music? this is great. Im like nope. :heh: 6 months later they forgot about me lol. I can lock myself in a room for 48 hrs create one track and 1 design, and then hate it a month later. How the hell can I accumulate material when I keep scrapping shyt? Im the other style of artist.....the lazy one. :pachaha:

There's a lot of us out there. I was just listening to this chicago girl group called Pretty N Pink. These broads are fukking legit :ohhh: I mean they have some serious shyt, they could be bigger than Sasha Go Hard, but these broads aint got one mixtape, I emailed one of them, told them their work was great when was the mixtape, I got no reply. It just reminded me of me. :heh:

I remember emailing Lil B 3 years ago about an instrumental he used and got a reply. :wow: See the difference in artists? If you ain't on yet, there is no reason for you to be shunning your core fans. It's something I learned a cpl months ago. and now I share this golden knowledge with you all. :blessed:


You made a lot of great points, a lot of artists tend to miss out on, and what a lot of artists are lacking now a days, a person behind them that knows what the fukk they're doing and can help with developing them.

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Life is good. I got an engineering degree from a top school, I make good money, and am on the verge of making even more. Here are the observations of a young nikka that made it. Mr. Hate Coffee is by no means an expert on life, take it for what you will.

Observations from a "Successful" Black Male

-It's going to be hard to keep the same friends. People will resent you for life decisions they made. Be a stand up guy no matter what tho.


-Even women that make more than you will expect you to pay for the dates.

-No matter how well you're doing, the harsh reality that your high school friends and your immediate family ARE NOT doing well keeps you from being completely free.

-Women want a man with a good job and career, but get mad at you when you're heavily involved with said career and don't have a lot of free time. :what:

-Meeting other young blacks who have money and ambitions changed my whole life. If anyone is stuck in a rut, I suggest you change your friendship circle. It can open your mind.

-Money isn't everything. I had the most stress in my life when I made my most money.

-Nothing turns you into :flabbynsick: faster than working a desk job.

-White people have different rules when it comes to snitching. Don't tell em shyt. I've seen guys at work stab each other in the back repeatedly and go out for beers and play golf afterwards. I still don't understand this.

-Getting a new job/promotion/degree isn't really going to make you happy. Especially if you're not passionate about your work.

-Owning a house was overrated. Way more upkeep and headaches than I realized. If I could do it again, I'd cop a cheap place to live in and then rent out.


-Our generation is royally getting screwed. All that "Follow Your Dreams" stuff we grew up on has fukked a lot of 20 somethings up. And they're bitter about it.

-Don't assume that someone at work is cool cuz they're black. It's an amazing amount of Toms in the work world.

-Never talk politics or religion with coworkers. Even outside of work.

-You can go back to the hood, but don't get caught up in hood drama.

-Success is relative. There will always be someone younger with more accolades to make you feel like you could do better.

-People from your past will come to you for money. Dont' feel bad saying NO. Just cuz I got bread and no kids doesn't mean I don't have my own problems.

-Journey > the destination. College was harder and I was broke but it was more fulfilling.

-Most women I went to school with were high achievers and very driven. But once they got into the corporate world they realized that having a job is boring and secretly wish someone with more money would come and make them a housewife.

-Generation Y females tend to be ridiculously entitled and will hop from job to job until they find one that makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside. The truth is, this job doesn't exist for most of us. So they resign to the point above.

-Adults are the most delusional people in this world. The older I get, the harder it is to be honest with folks. You have to manage people's twisted perception of themselves. It keeps the riff raff down.
-Young blacks are some of the most creative people in the world yet incredibility limited at the same time. :ohhh:

-Everybody settles. EVERYBODY. Whether it be on a job or a mate. We all settle. At least I'm honest with myself.
-Chicks be using the shyt out of me. Luckily I see it coming. I get asked to be someone's date to a wedding every other month. So demonic.

-Whenever someone asks what you're doing at a specific time or date, ALWAYS tell them you're doing something important. More often than not they want a favor.
:lawd: preach
 

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White businessmen are like white politicians.

They'll insult each other all day in a debate. But in the end they're laughing over drinks or dinner. Because ultimately, they both still have a bunch of money so it's all good. The public buys into it and keeps it going.




And not to sound racist, but from what I've observed in the corporate world, the most dangerous person is a mid-late 40's age white man. Especially if they havent reached the management level they feel they should have. They see the younger groups coming up and they know their time to move up dwindling. They'll yuk it up w/ you to your face, but throw you under the bus FAST behind your back.

one of my favorite movies that most Black folks need to see. Its a hard watch because it isn't a traditional movie but it shows the true cut throat character of white dudes in corporate America
 

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Here some beginning advice get the fukk off of here and e net period if it aint helping you get money and two read the millionaire fastlane by mj demarco it'll get your mind right. There is some free advice now your ribs will stop touching lol

ah man but the coli makes me happy tho
 

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@Mr Hate Coffee my nig
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i'll be piggy backing off of your thread ina few months. if you come out to hollywood pm me :mjpls:
 

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Read 48 Laws of Power to understand how things operate in the corporate world
 

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Great thread fellas. I just go accepted to a huge IT gig at a fortune 150 company thats gonna be a big ass come up for me from my current lame support role. And man alot of the OPs points are ringing true.. I am the only brother in my department and gotta go thru the daily struggle of dealing with cacs, luckily I am in the midwest and these people are pretty mellow for the most part. Just put my two weeks in and I am dreading having to explain to long time colleagues why I am leaving... Makes it worse since I am more of a quiet guy and hate spot light and shyt..
 
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