Obvious Russ was holding KD back

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Ain't Russ fault KD soft and was scared of em

 

[KOBE]

Didn't you just make a thread calling Draymond nothing more than a mere role player

How are you getting me and @houston911 confused.

 

[ndthentherewasx]

Should've left that ballhogging ninja turtle years ago

Yeah, yet I doubt he said anything to Russ or checked him, ever.

Ran away from the problem rather than confronting it.


Not surprising at all.


Probably should of had his mom call Russ.

 

[mson]

Westbrixx is

That means 90 percent of the league is trash.

 

[Versa]

nikkas acting like if Russ went to GS instead of KD, they wouldn't have one the ship.

I'm curious as to how you think would that would have worked?

 

[Slystallion]

Russ and Harden would be champs if they were in Gs instead of Durant

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Nah fam.

Everybody points to game 7 to blame westbrook.

Ignoring the fact that Durant played like shyt in game 5 and 6. He was completely passive and settled for jumpers as opposed to slashing.

KD might have been shyt offensively but he was still playing dpoy defense

Meanwhile Russ was letting GS get wide open layups and 3's



How the fukk you jogging back on d when ur 1 game from the finals?

 

[Piff Perkins]

TBH OKC might have had a couple chips if Westbrook had simply done the smart thing and played more like a distributor/second option. Durant is unstoppable. Get him the ball. Win games. It's simple.

 

[Rollo Goodlove]

He would have been better off playing with Harden than Westbrook.

The crazy thing is Durant is 28 and is now just going into his prime. He will likely dominate the game for another 5-6 seasons barring injury with his skill set. He probably wins another 3 rings at least.

If kd gets 4 rings he is better than lebron

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I don't know about holding him back. But last year it was ridiculous that KD can score 27 in a closeout loss, while westbrook shot 7-21, yet KD gets blamed for "choking" and losing the series.

Not just the last game either. These were the last three games.

11-28 with 7 turnovers
10-27 with 5 turnovers
7-21 with 3 turnovers

You have the best offensive player in the NBA next to you, a front court that is absolutely tearing the Warriors apart, and you throw up 75 shots and 15 turnovers in the last three games???

Russ would have won on the Warriors also.

this is stupid. Had Westbrook left to go to the Warriors this thread would be the other way around

No way in a million fukking years the Warriors would have taken Westbrook. Would have completely messed up their game on offense and been a liability on defense.

What lineup would they even have had Westbrook in? How would they have played him?

Ya, it's not the fact that they didn't have a Klay Thompson and Draymond Green with them out there in OKC rather than it just being those 2. Some of you are seriously so fukking stupid it hurts.

Look, I know why you have to stan this guy so hard. You work your ass off trying to establish that ball-hogging, shot-chucking, and looking out for yourself above team success is the way to be a superstar. I don't blame ya'all for trying. But you got to stop being so stupid about it.

Saying that it was "just those 2" last year is pure stupidity.

Thunder had the most physically dominant frontcourt in the NBA last year - Ibaka, Adams, and Kanter were fukking rolling over the Mavs, Spurs, and Warriors in the playoffs.

Before that, they had Ibaka (a DPOY candidate just like Draymond, with an effective jumper just like Draymond) and on top of that had Reggie Jackson, Thabo Seflosha, and even James Harden.

Westbrook HAD a stacked team. But no one going to win a title when the point guard taking 20+ shots a game at a 40% clip when he can't even hit the three while turning the ball over four times a game and making awful decisions with the ball every fukking postseason.

 

[godkiller]

If OKC had someone like Jimmy Butler alongside KD and Westbrook they'd compete. OKC just didnt bring Westbrook and KD enough help. Westbrook isnt go blame. He played well enough given his circumstances.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Westbrook my fav player and I kinda agree. But, I dont really see how sometimes just becuz Steph and Westbrook both shoot the ball a ton.

I think the key factor is better role players on GS

Westbrook takes a few more shots than Curry (especially in the playoffs when the chucking would just get out of control), but it's about more than that.

Curry's shots come after a lot of passing, ball movement, everyone touching the ball, taking the best shot available. Westbrook's shots came after a bunch of ball-pounding, waving off Durant, and if anyone else did get the ball it was at the end of the possession. It's a completely different feel.

If you have a guy putting up 48/44/90 shooting splits, you don't mind him shooting 18-19 times a game if it comes in the rhythm of the offense. But when you have a guy who is shooting 41% from the field and 29% from three, you do NOT want him forcing up 20+ shots a game, especially if he is keeping the ball out of better players' hands in the process.

Why would he need to shoot if the lanes are wide open?

Are you really asking me why Russell Westbrook would make poor decisions?

You just seem like a narrative jockey. When people talk about his decision making I always ask who they feel is out here making better decisions. Because I see players doing these things nonstop, but once a narrative starts, certain player attributes are put under a magnifying glass. Russ' decision making is no worse than any other superstar. He's been burdened with playing around weak-willed players that lack real confidence and he's often willing to take the shots other players are scared to take.

If you don't see dozens of point guards making better decisions with the ball than Westbrook, you've just invalidated your opinion on basketball matters.

 

[KillerB88]

Westbrook takes a few more shots than Curry (especially in the playoffs when the chucking would just get out of control), but it's about more than that.

Curry's shots come after a lot of passing, ball movement, everyone touching the ball, taking the best shot available. Westbrook's shots came after a bunch of ball-pounding, waving off Durant, and if anyone else did get the ball it was at the end of the possession. It's a completely different feel.

If you have a guy putting up 48/44/90 shooting splits, you don't mind him shooting 18-19 times a game if it comes in the rhythm of the offense. But when you have a guy who is shooting 41% from the field and 29% from three, you do NOT want him forcing up 20+ shots a game, especially if he is keeping the ball out of better players' hands in the process.









If you don't see dozens of point guards making better decisions with the ball than Westbrook, you've just invalidated your opinion on basketball matters.

nikka. The point is that those same point guards make the SAME poor decisions. There is no flawless guard in the league. And only a few have the kind of elite talent that outweighs their negatives.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

nikka. The point is that those same point guards make the SAME poor decisions. There is no flawless guard in the league. And only a few have the kind of elite talent that outweighs their negatives.

We ain't talking bout no 1-2 mistakes here and there. We talking about a dozen stupid decisions every game - bad shots, bad turnovers, not seeing the open guy, not making the right pass or running the right play, not keeping the right guys involved, and so on.

If you can't tell that facilitators like CP3, Curry, Wall, TP, Conley, Lebron, Harden, Rubio, Draymond, etc. stay making FAR better decisions with the ball than Westbrook does, you're clueless.

 

[Supreme365]

Ya, it's not the fact that they didn't have a Klay Thompson and Draymond Green with them out there in OKC rather than it just being those 2. Some of you are seriously so fukking stupid it hurts.

These posters really don't know shyt Russ never held Durant back hell they were like 22/21 playing in the finals injuries and poor management killed that team...Kd joined a 73 win team with the reigning 2 time MVP a two way all star 2 guard, a dpoy forward who also facilitates the offense, a 6'7 back up pg, a former all star and all nba defender swingman, and a shaqting a fool MVP are people really surprised that kd is playing great you can't even double team him with teammates like this, this has so much more to do with than just curry