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It ain't warranted dude. He is under a massive microscope unlike any of his peers. Every single thing he does gets analyzed to the T. The reaction he gets from media + fans is not even close to being in line with his actual behaviour. I'm a Sens fans through and through but its very very obvious that being a confident black dude in hockey is a death knell. Not a coincidence that a guy like Jordan Kane gets the exact same reaction in Winnipeg.

Funny thing is if you were just going off the vitroil he faces from fans and media you'd think this dude is like a mix between T.O. and Lawrence Phillips. Place him into a sober context outside of the weird rationalism of the hockey world and he's the most unassuming, nonthreatening guy around. It's actually laughable to think he's one of the most hated guys in the sport. It's not a coincidence that when people have to explain their hate it usually boils down to him being "cocky" and "selfish".

Dude I live here and the fans and everyone I talk to love him. they stick up for him and even make excuses for him.

I don't care about what he does off the ice, I'm making my opinions based on his on ice play and demeanor.

but to be fair....Price gets way more BS then PK gets....
 

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Every black man who isn't a quiet yes man see iggy, Mike Grier gets blasted.

From the Freddy Braithwaite, Anson carter days till now.

From ray emery, when redden and spezza were doing cocaine

To Evander Kane even though no criminal record while their goalie is a drink driver.

To now pk subban. Never been arrested, never been in any lewd photos, never been seeing drunk. But he's getting attacked left and right.

This whole attitude adjustment ish is a joke.

All these old cacs want is yes massa type negros.

These cacs blacklisted ray emery that he had to run to Russia, and now he was 21-1 with a gaa under two nothing changed with emery he just got out under these racist cdn cacs and w en t to the states.

I can't wait till Montreal runs out pk, a pathetic racist franchise that threw a banana at Kevin Weekes.

When ted Nolan coached up there he was hurled with insults.

If I was pk, I'd demand a trade this summer to Toronto



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it ain't a race thing. Any hockey player that isn't in line with the rest gets the same treatment.
 

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Seems like they like him to me :manny:

 
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Dude I live here and the fans and everyone I talk to love him. they stick up for him and even make excuses for him.

I don't care about what he does off the ice, I'm making my opinions based on his on ice play and demeanor.

but to be fair....Price gets way more BS then PK gets....

I wasn't talking about Habs fans. Talk about every other opposing team and media.
 

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it ain't a race thing. Any hockey player that isn't in line with the rest gets the same treatment.

Every other hockey player has slurs directed toward them by fans and players?

No one said every single hockey fan is racist but without a doubt there is a significant current of racism in hockey that is noticeable.

You can dig your head in the sand but I don't see how you can be so dismissive of experiences of guys ranging from Laraque to Simmonds to Weekes to Grier to Trevor Daley.
 

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to be fair though.... a lot of it is warranted.
he is such a polarizing player.

Great physical talents. great skater, puck handler. great defenseman.

but he is still lacking tha maturity to take it to the nexxt level.

I love his intensity, but every now and then he just makes these stupid plays. and his chirping at his own players on the bench, and taking out smaller now fighters and avoiding the real tough guys really show where this dude is at.


Sometimes I love him, and sometimes I fukkin can't stand him.

Name me any top defenceman in the history of the game that had too or should have fought the heavyweight goons in the sport ? Exactly NONE
but you expect PK to do it instead of fighting guys his own size or skill ???
I dont remember the Bruins sending Ray Bourque out there to fight Bob Probert when things got crazy...

and lets be real guys yell at there own teammates ALL THE TIME,its only an issue and camera time when Subban does it (and he had every right to yell at Pacioretty for that stupid pass)

Problem with you and most traditional hockey observers your traditions and codes and racism havent moved into the modern world...

Like i said its ridiculous the over the top exaggerated and faux hostility directed at this player whos never been in trouble with the law....
 

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Every other hockey player has slurs directed toward them by fans and players?

No one said every single hockey fan is racist but without a doubt there is a significant current of racism in hockey that is noticeable.

You can dig your head in the sand but I don't see how you can be so dismissive of experiences of guys ranging from Laraque to Simmonds to Weekes to Grier to Trevor Daley.

I wasn't saying there isn't racism.

I was saying that all these old heads, all these dudes that aremaking the moves and calling the shots don't like it when ANY of these players don't walk the "hockey" line

ANYONE(regardless of color, or nationality) must fit that professional hockey player mould that they want(in their eyes)
they must wear suits, they must not act out, they must be humble and not flashy,etc.

ovechkin got blasted for that shyt forever. lots of players. it ain' just the black players.

Subban gets his hate for his own reasons. and some of it is justififed and some of it ain't

but that ain't no different than Ovechkin getting hated

when you are a good player, and you are in the media, dudes will say ANYTHING contrary just to get headlines.

Most fans....and I mean MOST REAL fans know the deal. and thats why PK gets a lot of love around here. he's a polarizing payer(like ovechkin) and the media plays both sides whenever they want to for the talking heads to have something to say.

I WILL NOT say that racism doesn't exist in hockey, because it does. it exists in our society.but looking at things objectively and you can see that alot of the things he gets targeted for are the same things that other players have done.
 

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Name me any top defenceman in the history of the game that had too or should have fought the heavyweight goons in the sport ? Exactly NONE
but you expect PK to do it instead of fighting guys his own size or skill ???
I dont remember the Bruins sending Ray Bourque out there to fight Bob Probert when things got crazy...

and lets be real guys yell at there own teammates ALL THE TIME,its only an issue and camera time when Subban does it (and he had every right to yell at Pacioretty for that stupid pass)

Problem with you and most traditional hockey observers your traditions and codes and racism havent moved into the modern world...

Like i said its ridiculous the over the top exaggerated and faux hostility directed at this player whos never been in trouble with the law....
I didn't see Bourque take shots on the big dudes(and run) and only fight the smaller ones either.

you can't have it both ways.

you can't go out of your way to make a big hit on neil then run from him the rest of the game only to drop your gloves against a non fighter that clearly wasn't ready to fight...thats bytchmade and if you can't see that you are blind.


of course its fake hostility by the media....everything they do is fukkin fake. so stop giving them any credence and shut them out.

I make my opinions by the games that I watch. not by what some fakkit in a suit said behind a desk on tv
 

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I wasn't saying there isn't racism.

I was saying that all these old heads, all these dudes that aremaking the moves and calling the shots don't like it when ANY of these players don't walk the "hockey" line

ANYONE(regardless of color, or nationality) must fit that professional hockey player mould that they want(in their eyes)
they must wear suits, they must not act out, they must be humble and not flashy,etc.

ovechkin got blasted for that shyt forever. lots of players. it ain' just the black players.

Subban gets his hate for his own reasons. and some of it is justififed and some of it ain't

but that ain't no different than Ovechkin getting hated

when you are a good player, and you are in the media, dudes will say ANYTHING contrary just to get headlines.

Most fans....and I mean MOST REAL fans know the deal. and thats why PK gets a lot of love around here. he's a polarizing payer(like ovechkin) and the media plays both sides whenever they want to for the talking heads to have something to say.

I WILL NOT say that racism doesn't exist in hockey, because it does. it exists in our society.but looking at things objectively and you can see that alot of the things he gets targeted for are the same things that other players have done.

Hes not targeted even remotely close to other players are in this league...What top 4 D-men has to humble himself to his coach,team and org after holding out and signing a BS contract....No other top 5 defensemen in the league with no legal troubles who hits,fights and makes plays like he does is scrutinized as much.....Wait til he wins the norris and is the top defenseman on the olympic team...fakkits gon be mad :yes:
 

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I didn't see Bourque take shots on the big dudes(and run) and only fight the smaller ones either.

you can't have it both ways.

you can't go out of your way to make a big hit on neil then run from him the rest of the game only to drop your gloves against a non fighter that clearly wasn't ready to fight...thats bytchmade and if you can't see that you are blind.


of course its fake hostility by the media....everything they do is fukkin fake. so stop giving them any credence and shut them out.

I make my opinions by the games that I watch. not by what some fakkit in a suit said behind a desk on tv

haha so Ray Bourque never slashed certain guys in the playoffs cuz he was afraid of fighting them ? :childplease:
Pk Subban fences with Neil so that means he must do his team a disservice and fight him and take himself out the game for 5 min WTF you sound dumb as these broadcasters....

So everytime he hits someone hes obligated to drop em with the fakkit who cant handle it ? Never heard that applied to any one else who hit guys clean....but PK has to fight each and every one...

Is that you PJ ?
 

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Hes not targeted even remotely close to other players are in this league...What top 4 D-men has to humble himself to his coach,team and org after holding out and signing a BS contract....No other top 5 defensemen in the league with no legal troubles who hits,fights and makes plays like he does is scrutinized as much.....Wait til he wins the norris and is the top defenseman on the olympic team...fakkits gon be mad :yes:
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he ain't a top 4(or 5) defensman in the league

settle down.

take your blinders off and be real.

and he gets talked about a lot because he's on on of the biggest franchise in pro sports...

guaranteed that if he was on the oilers or coyotes he wouldn't get talked about like that
 

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he ain't a top 4(or 5 or 6 or 7) defensman in the league

settle down.

take your blinders off and be real.

and he gets talked about a lot because he's on on of the biggest franchise in pro sports...

guaranteed that if he was on the oilers or coyotes he wouldn't get talked about like that

Right now hes top 3 in the league breh...
 

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he ain't a top 4(or 5 or 6 or 7) defensman in the league

settle down.

take your blinders off and be real.

and he gets talked about a lot because he's on on of the biggest franchise in pro sports...

guaranteed that if he was on the oilers or coyotes he wouldn't get talked about like that

That's why he's the Norris favorite right?

Which dmen are better than him?

Only dudes who can compare to him is Karlson, suter, weber, chara and maybe Letang

Doughty Keith and Seabrook have fallen off.

I've been watching hockey since I was 4, and playing since I was 5, hell I would have played junior if I didn't quit.




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then therrien should have told his players to stop taking shots on his players.

they wanna play??
then play...don't have it one way.

then sens were just trying to skate the game out.
not putting any pressure on the goalie. jsut skating around.

then the habs kept runnin the sens players

McClean stood up for his guys


Exactly. Therrien needs to be smacked with a bag full of jock straps.

I love how Gryba gets a 2 game suspension for a clean it, yet the Habs can run around and goon it up with impunity.
 

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Right now hes top 3 in the league breh...

there is more to playing defense than just scoring.

here is my top 5

Zdeno Chara
Erik Karlsson
Alex Pietrangelo
Duncan Keith
Drew Doughty


Suter, Weber, Subban, letang and Ekman-Larsson all fill out the top 10 IMO(in no particular order)
 
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