Official 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics Thread

[MikelArteta]

the thing about pk, im not defending cacs etc. is that alot of white folks love pk, and love his game, just the small segement that hate him hate him regarrdless what he does and they have a voice.

 

[Maschine_Man]

the thing about pk, im not defending cacs etc. is that alot of white folks love pk, and love his game, just the small segement that hate him hate him regarrdless what he does and they have a voice.

is this an actual logical response?? daamn bruh I was worried for a minute that you no longer had it in you.

you know how it goes man, like they say..."the squeaky wheel gets the oil"

no one is gonna give any light to the ppl that like him. ppl are only gonna react to that small few that act up

but its still no reason to wish for failure. cuz if Canada does end up winning, PK will still be rocking that gold and that would have haters even more mad.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

I could explain this to you 100 times and you still wouldnt get it cuz you one of THEM....You think theres nothing wrong even when its staring you in the face...

I outlined my stance well before it began,im rooting for the team as long as PK is apart of it anything less then fukk em....Hes being done dirty but a bigoted coaching staff and body (Canadian Hockey) and im not rooting for whats wrong and shameful...
He should not being left out for far less talented and proven players and its got alot to do with the color of his skin..only look at the tweets and blackface pics for confirmation race plays an important part in all of this...

Its wrong for him to be left off this team when hes one of there best and im not supporting the bigotry associated with it....

Further proof sumn aint right here..Babcock the other day in a quote said he is still evaluating Subbans game away from the puck before making a decision ???? WTF

A professional head coach 4 games into an olympics still needs to evaluate the defending norris trophy winner and one of top defensemans game at this point in the season/tournament...If that quote is correct and from him,thats fukkn embarrasing and disgraceful on many levels...

Goes to show you how hes being lil brothered by this entire organization,coach and racist culture in this sport and no i aiont supporting it over whats right...

fck YOU and THEM...

I co sign 100percent

Crazy how pk is getting treated and I'm cheering for the Americans


Pk would be playing heavy minutes if he was a member of team USA

 

[Maschine_Man]

I co sign 100percent

Crazy how pk is getting treated and I'm cheering for the Americans


Pk would be playing heavy minutes if he was a member of team USA

Because the American Defense isn't nearly as talented as Canada's























I think another thing thats lost in all of this is that the defensemen that are actually playing have been playing great.
if PK plays(and I think there is a place for him in the lineup) he'd only be getting about 5-7 minutes a game

 

[JLova]

of course they are, but why do ppl bother reading the comments and put any stock in to that shyt??

they are all written by either trolls or cowards that would never speak out IRL the way they do online.

putting any stock in to message boards and comment sections and using that to make an argument is pretty weak.

I'm not putting any stock in them at all, but a lot of people think that way.

 

[bsmooth]

Weber
Doughty
Pietrangelo


There's no minutes to give on the right side, Weber and Doughty probably going to take up 50 mins between them the rest of the way

 

[JLova]

Dmen play on their off side all the time. It happened in Vancouver. That said, why is Petrangelo an automatic over Subban? Why can't PK be the 7th dman? It's retarded as hell to hear that there's no room for a dman who won the Norris. Almost as dumb as sitting Gretzky in the shootout.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Dmen play on their off side all the time. It happened in Vancouver. That said, why is Petrangelo an automatic over Subban? Why can't PK be the 7th dman? It's retarded as hell to hear that there's no room for a dman who won the Norris. Almost as dumb as sitting Gretzky in the shootout.

I'm not saying he's an automatic, but you honestly can't be saying that he shouldn't be in the conversation
he has more points and a better +/-, and thats just offensively.
but I think they were looking at more of the pairing w/ Bouwmeester

but there is still no reason to not have PK in the lineup.

 

[bsmooth]

Dmen play on their off side all the time. It happened in Vancouver. That said, why is Petrangelo an automatic over Subban? Why can't PK be the 7th dman? It's retarded as hell to hear that there's no room for a dman who won the Norris. Almost as dumb as sitting Gretzky in the shootout.

Pietrangelo gets the bump over Subban because he and Bouwmeester are partners. Yes guys can play on their off hand but it also increases risks of turnovers significantly which is something other teams are relying on to beat Canada.

I think PK should have been dressed as a 7th dman just because he can add a level of dynamism the other dmen can't when the teams stagnated, like they have been at times but I'm just saying there's a legitimate line of thinking in not having him play.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Here is an article from Monday....may make some of you guys THINK about this logically and no just emotionally...makes some good points

SOCHI -- Canada coach Mike Babcock will not announce his lineup for the quarterfinals until the morning of the game on Wednesday.

But he settled one aspect of the lineup question rather definitively on Monday.

With two goals allowed in three games, both on shots deflected in front, one area of Canada's game Babcock has no trouble with has been his defense.

The pairings of Duncan Keith and Shea Weber, Marc-Edouard Vlasic and Drew Doughty, and Jay Bouwmeester and Alex Pietrangelo have remained consistent from the moment Canada stepped off the plane here. Dan Hamhuis and P.K. Subban have been the fourth pair in practice and have alternated in and out of the lineup through three games.

It looks like that won't change any time soon

"We've got three really good pairs," Babcock said Monday. "I'll be honest with you, Hamhuis and P.K. haven't got much of a chance. I mean the pairs are good. There hasn't been any changing of players there just because they've been real solid."

Hamhuis has dressed for two games and Subban for one. Between them they have played a combined 25:31 in three games, or 8:30 per game.

Hamhuis has one advantage over Subban in that he shoots left-handed and plays on the penalty kill. The left side of Canada's defense is not nearly as strong as the right, so having Hamhuis on the bench gives Babcock an option if one of the top-three lefties is having a bad game. Subban is more of a power-play specialist, and not only does Babcock have a number of defensemen to use on the point, forward Patrick Sharp also plays there with his Chicago Blackhawks teammate Keith.

It could be argued that Doughty and Weber have been Canada's best players, let alone its best defensemen, and the St. Louis Blues combination of Bouwmeester and Pietrangelo has been very solid defensively.

If there was one spot where Hamhuis could hope to get some ice time, it would have been slotting in for Vlasic, except he too has impressed his coaches.

"I just told somebody [Monday] morning that Vlasic is way better than everybody knows," Babcock said. "He's a really, really good player; Doughty gets to do anything he wants and Vlasic is always in a great spot. He's a good defender, he's become harder. He used to be a thin kid, now he's a thick man. He's hard, he's smart, he skates, he moves the puck and he's safe."

Babcock's declaration that his existing defense pairings should remain stable is a bigger endorsement of Vlasic's play than anything else he said. The San Jose Sharks defenseman made sure to emphasize he will not take his spot in the lineup for granted, but he couldn't help but feel some pride over what his coach thinks of his game.

"When it comes from him it's special," Vlasic said. "That he's evaluating your game and finds you're doing well, coming from a coach that's won everything, it's something."

Vlasic played with Doughty at the 2009 IIHF World Championship for Canada and also faces him regularly in the NHL as Pacific Division rivals when the Sharks and Los Angeles Kings play each other.

The big story for Canada has been Doughty leading the team by scoring four of its 11 goals, but having Vlasic as a partner gives Doughty the freedom to jump in the rush as often as he does knowing there is a solid defensive presence behind him.

So is Vlasic responsible for Doughty's offensive explosion?

"I'd like to say yes, but no," Vlasic said, laughing. "He's a great player. He's good offensively, he likes skating with the puck and he makes plays. It's just like he is in the regular season."

Doughty, on the other hand, believes Vlasic doesn't get enough credit for what he can do with the puck and thinks the partnership has helped him put his stamp on the Olympic tournament.

"He's a good offensive player himself. I think I'm jumping up too much and he's not having the opportunity," Doughty said, laughing. "He's faster than me, too. I told him, ‘You take off and I'll hold back if you want.' But he's been a great partner. We get along really well off the ice. We talk a lot over things during the game and it's working out."

Though his forward lines are in flux, Babcock has the confidence of knowing his defense pairs are solid and stable. With three games standing between Canada and a gold medal, that is one item to cross off the list of things Babcock has to worry about.

And if there is one thing that has made those defense pairs such a lock, it's been Vlasic's ability to mesh with Doughty.

 

[MikelArteta]

vlasic is ass

hes this year robyn reghyr

 

[JLova]

Pietrangelo gets the bump over Subban because he and Bouwmeester are partners. Yes guys can play on their off hand but it also increases risks of turnovers significantly which is something other teams are relying on to beat Canada.

I think PK should have been dressed as a 7th dman just because he can add a level of dynamism the other dmen can't when the teams stagnated, like they have been at times but I'm just saying there's a legitimate line of thinking in not having him play.

We're not talking about a decent player. We're talking about a Norris winning Dman. You make room.

 

[MikelArteta]

We're not talking about a decent player. We're talking about a Norris winning Dman. You make room.

only three cdns have won the norris in the past 15 years

thats all im saying

 

[MikelArteta]

I'm not saying he's an automatic, but you honestly can't be saying that he shouldn't be in the conversation
he has more points and a better +/-, and thats just offensively.
but I think they were looking at more of the pairing w/ Bouwmeester

but there is still no reason to not have PK in the lineup.

plus/minus is a worthless stat for the most part
shea weber is a -10

offensively pietrangelo plays for teh second highest scoring team in the nhl , while pk subban plays for montreal whose 22nd in goals scored.

Compare playing with david backes, tj oshie, chris stewwart, alex steen etc. to playing with brian gionta, rene bourque, plekanec and pacioretty.

 

[MikelArteta]

Pietrangelo gets the bump over Subban because he and Bouwmeester are partners. Yes guys can play on their off hand but it also increases risks of turnovers significantly which is something other teams are relying on to beat Canada.

I think PK should have been dressed as a 7th dman just because he can add a level of dynamism the other dmen can't when the teams stagnated, like they have been at times but I'm just saying there's a legitimate line of thinking in not having him play.

partners mean ass, is like people forgot that seabrook and keith were partners and in 2010 seabrook was the odd man out on many occasions. Continue slurping up alll the cac media bs they portray for pk but nobody else. That whole right hand/left hand ish is a pathetic bs drivel, on one hand they will take like 7 centers and play them out of position and its ok , but for pk subban oh no he an tplay out of position, its how nobody sees it.