Official 2017 NFL Preseason Discussion Thread

[bangbreh]

If I wasn't a Jets fan myself, I'd hate them (no offense to the Jets fans on this board, y'all are alright). Whenever you go to MetLife, you're surrounded by idiots for the most part, with both extremes, the ones who think everything's gonna go great and that we're just letting Brady live but he's really not that good, and then the ones who live to be miserable. When's the last time you saw a bad bytch who happens to be a Jets fan? If you're a Jets fan and your dikk is hard, it has nothing to do with the Flight Crew or the women in the crowd. At best you'll find a 45-55 year old white lady with big fake titties, botox, collagen and a severe case of noassatall. I've been around fans of other miserable teams. Browns fans are cool. You pull for them. Bills fans are doofy but they're harmless. Superbowl? Man sometimes we don't deserve gloves on a freezing day. I'm the only Jet fan in my family and I swear I'll never let anyone else be a Jets fan.

I already know Imma be that dude LIVID the Jets won a game and nobody understanding why I'm mad.

Tell those fakkits to trade Sheldon for Kearse and Lane

 

[tremonthustler1]

Tell those fakkits to trade Sheldon for Kearse and Lane

I don't care either way when it comes to Sheldon. At best they'll get a 4th or 5th for him anyway since he's a habitual fukkup and we constantly misuse him because we love trying to mess with good things. If we didn't draft 2 safeties, he'd probably wind up seeing snaps there because Bowles aka face doesn't know what he's doing.

 

[bangbreh]

I don't care either way when it comes to Sheldon. At best they'll get a 4th or 5th for him anyway since he's a habitual fukkup and we constantly misuse him because we love trying to mess with good things. If we didn't draft 2 safeties, he'd probably wind up seeing snaps there because Bowles aka face doesn't know what he's doing.

We got a solid locker room for him to come to.
You may see what you missed on.
Hawks are basically the rehab of the NFL. And it's worked out for us

 

[Professor K.]

Watching these games and seeing Joey Porter, Keenan McCardell, and Chad Morton on the sidelines as assistant coaches got me feeling

 

[South Paw]

We got a solid locker room for him to come to.
You may see what you missed on.
Hawks are basically the rehab of the NFL. And it's worked out for us

even for a rental it's worth it

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

@Swagnificent At least you're right about Barnett and Kamara

He shyt on him

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

WR gonna be interesting. Kearse really needs to go but it done make sense cap wise. probably 6 wrs and 3 or 4 te's

richardson might start on pup, he jacked up his shoulder week1

Baldwin
Kearse
Lockett
Richardson
Williams
Darboh?

 

[Swagnificent]

Dobbs and Connor struggling Connor getting flustered

Man. U nikkas take preseason too seriously.

Its almost like this is your first year ever watching football.

 

[Swagnificent]

@Swagnificent At least you're right about Barnett and Kamara

This is why my football intelligence is higher than y'all. You nikkas get swayed by the wrong shyt in preseason.

(1) Barnett got cheap hustle sacks against backups. He's still undersized, unathletic, and not very strong. He struggled in camp against the Eagles two starting tackles that are both very good. Barnett is a hard worker and that pays off in the preseason against backups. It aint working in the regular season against elite NFL tackles. You actually need tools other than hustle to get sacks against starters in the regular season.

(2) Alvin Kamara on the other hand has done most of his work against starters in the first quarter. And he's also been killing it in camp against the Saints first team defense. He has elite explosiveness to get through the hole and elite balance to break tackles. Two attributes that translate to regular season football.

That is why Kamara will still be beast during the regular season while Barnett won't.

 

[Box Factory]

Bart Houston looked pretty good for the Steelers. I think he might have a shot to beat out Landry for the back up job if he shows some consistency

I thought he did a really good job of staying in the pocket and not rolling out, falling down and flipping the ball to his opponent for an embarassingly easy INT here

 

[MikelArteta]

It must suck being one of the 1000 NFL players who are gonna get waived soon, if you don't get a practice squad spot your sol, it ain't like other sports where you can go overseas

 

[Professor K.]

It must suck being one of the 1000 NFL players who are gonna get waived soon, if you don't get a practice squad spot your sol, it ain't like other sports where you can go overseas

That new cut rule(90 to 53 at the end of preseason) is gonna fukk a lot of these guys' careers up. It's basically putting the guys with no real future(90 to 75 cuts) in the same category with the potential fringe guys(75 to 53) and diluting their market. Gonna be that much harder to make an impression on their own teams and damn near impossible to get enough film out there to latch on with another squad.

 

[Swagnificent]

Bart Houston looked pretty good for the Steelers. I think he might have a shot to beat out Landry for the back up job if he shows some consistency

I thought he did a really good job of staying in the pocket and not rolling out, falling down and flipping the ball to his opponent for an embarassingly easy INT here

Man. You really do jump the gun based on the smallest sample size. There's a reason Bart Houston was undrafted. He's TYPICALLY abysmal. He was terrible in the first preseason game (2/7 passing). And has been terrible during training camp. Here's what a blogger who has been covering every Steelers practice thus far this training camp has had to say about Houston's performance in camp: Steelers Training Camp Recap: Quarterbacks - Steelers Depot

Bart Houston: Is he better than past 4th string QBs? Probably about the same. But he did get more reps, elevated to third team with Jones out and when Roethlisberger was out, to the #2. The numbers aren’t pretty, he threw by far the most picks on a relatively small number of attempts. He did show off his arm and occasionally, had some NFL-level throws (a corner route to Marcus Tucker still sticks out). To his credit, his command of the offense grew after a horrid start.

But his accuracy was terri-bad, both in practice and in game. So many throws, short and long, woefully sailed. Tucker probably hates his guts for the number of times he missed him, twice in the Giants (one would’ve been for a TD). His throwing style is a little wonky, his back foot flying off the ground and swinging around when pushing the ball downfield.

He’ll get time this week, probably another quarter, and maybe another in the final game. There’s obviously no path to the roster, even if someone went down, but there has been slight progression with him. You could do worse.

Camp Grade: D+

A couple of passes in the 4th quarter of a preseason game don't make a career.

And here's what the same guy has had to say about Dobbs performance during training camp:

Josh Dobbs: Despite a rocky start to the New York Giants game, I think you have to be happy with the job Dobbs has done throughout camp. Poise is good term to describe him. The basics, understanding and commanding the offense, were evident almost immediately. His first two practices saw struggles, picked once and should’ve been two more times, but he took off from there. Quicker learner from his mistakes.

Live arm with really good ball placement downfield. On anything vertical, it’s usually on the correct shoulder, only where the receiver has a chance to get it. His arm and torque allows him to make strong, accurate throws from different and difficult platforms. He’s capable of still ripping the ball in there off his back foot or rolling out to his left (as a right-handed QB).

As camp went on, he did a better job of going through his progressions and finding tertiary reads. And clearly, he has the mobility to extend plays and take off with the ball when he has to.

The volume of reps were unexpected too. Don’t have final tally yet but probably threw about 175 passes in camp. That’s likely to end up being more than Roethlisberger or any other QB on the team. When he goes back to riding the bench, he’ll have this high volume of plays to build off of.

There’s the little things too. Not many botched center/QB exchanges and I don’t think he severely screwed up a single handoff or toss.

Do want to see more accuracy on the short/intermediate stuff. His completion percentage, which, sure, isn’t the say-all, end-all, but it’s one of the lowest I’ve recorded since I’ve been at camp. Probably going to come in somewhere around 57%. So still some consistency in short areas, especially red zone, I want to see.

Camp Grade: B

But go ahead and jump to conclusions based on one quarter in a preseason game compared to an entire college career and all of training camp.

 

[bangbreh]

Baldwin
Kearse
Lockett
Richardson
Williams
Darboh?

That's the likely group.
If Williams isn't there something is awfully wrong.
I'd take McEvoy before Kearse tho.
We got some loyalty to Kearse and I sure hope that prick makes some big blocks this year since that's all he's worth anymore.
Unless he feels like making a games winning catch out of nowhere.

 

[Box Factory]

Man. You really do jump the gun based on the smallest sample size. There's a reason Bart Houston was undrafted. He's TYPICALLY abysmal. He was terrible in the first preseason game (2/7 passing). And has been terrible during training camp. Here's what a blogger who has been covering every Steelers practice thus far this training camp has had to say about Houston's performance in camp: Steelers Training Camp Recap: Quarterbacks - Steelers Depot



A couple of passes in the 4th quarter of a preseason game don't make a career.

And here's what the same guy has had to say about Dobbs performance during training camp:



But go ahead and jump to conclusions based on one quarter in a preseason game compared to an entire college career and all of training camp.

Dobbs was 2 of 8 for 12 yards and and an Interception in rhe 2nd half.

Lotta talk he wont make the active roster now and Houston is badly out playing him