Official 2020 Iowa Caucus Thread

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Are you prepared for constructive criticism on November 3rd? When all of this is proven to be nonsense and he wins handedly?

So you're literally doing the shyt that could contribute to his win anc then hoping to gloat about it if that works out for you?

NO ONE knows yet what will happen in November . People far more knowledgeable than you are spending hundreds of millions on the assumption that the election isn't decided yet.

Claiming you know and leveraging that to discourage people and depress turnout is bullshyt.
 

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Because there is no downside to him doing so.

If he did win, then he gets out in front of the media cycle.


If he didn't win he can just spin saying he was "victorious" by having a top three showing when his polling was nowhere near that because it's pretty clear that Biden was 4th at this point.




:francis:
 

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Nah, you can sell that to somebody else...

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Still can't believe this is happening.

The rot goes so much deeper in the party than I ever imagined. Sure, we've all come to expect the tone-deaf approach to folks in flyover states, overemphasizing the concerns of fringe interest groups, and generally avoiding tough conversations about the erosion of labor power vis a vis capital in the last 40 years.

But trouble counting votes? Really? They successfully count votes in countries with 1/20th the per capita GDP of the US. Embarassing shyt.

If this little episode doesn't send the entire senior executive / administrative leadership of the party packing...:francis:
 

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Who do you think will win?

If the results stay the way the internal polls show then I think Bernie has moved into the driver's seat but Warren winds up with the best opportunity to catch him. Basically, somebody has to consolidate support behind themselves before Super Tuesday. Purely on speculation, I think Warren has the best case built to consolidate support behind herself. She's not as radical as Bernie but also left enough for progressives to get behind her platform. Biden's crash and Pete not being viable anywhere with black voters means that she's got a strong sell imo. That said, I think with Amy, Pete and Biden also trying to pull from the same collection of voters it becomes tough to pull off.

That's also why I like Bernie's electoral strategy for this election specifically. He has a reliably loyal voting floor and can pull in more voters if his electability case is growing and the longer everyone else is fractured the more time he has to establish that as the case.
 
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