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Somewhere in between these two statements. Adjustments just need to be made overall until its too late
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Somewhere in between these two statements. Adjustments just need to be made overall until its too late
This season is over, whether they make the playoffs or not, but they're losing close games to the best teams and will still have the key pieces next year so I can't say the windows closed. They need a big off-season though.
The Ravens with Lamar havent gone any further than the Campbell Lions. That would've been a bad move too. That team would not just be this team but with Lamar in Goffs spot.
The Ravens with Lamar havent gone any further than the Campbell Lions. That would've been a bad move too. That team would not just be this team but with Lamar in Goffs spot.
It's not like the games they lost weren't winnable. Some of them were lost due to 4th down coaching decisions. Just doesn't seem like the window is shut yet but it is closing.
Piff Perkins
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I think the window will hinge on who the next OC is, and whether Ragnow plays next season (which I assume he will). I'm starting to think Campbell needs the Sirianni treatment: not "get this right or you're done" but a clear directive that he can't fukk this up again. Bringing back Morton is a no go. Hiring from within (Scottie Montgomery) should be a no go. I need a legitimate OC. Whether that's Daboll or somebody else. I assume Campbell is too macho meathead to want Mike McDaniel but he'd be perfect here, assuming the Dolphins fire him. Elite run game schemes, understands the o-line, can work with a pocket passer. Just as when Sirianni was essentially forced to bring in big name coordinators, it's time for Campbell to face similar heat. Once again I am NOT saying his job is on the line. But this decision will likely determine whether he succeeds or fails going forward.
No issue with Shepherd, he's not going anywhere. But there needs to be a schematic shift on how we view pass rush and that also hinges on Campbell. I don't want to hear about setting edges and stopping the run when our scheme allows QBs to sit in a pocket all day and pick man coverage apart. It's not working. Either change the scheme or get serious about pass rush...which means we need to stop taking smaller pass rushers off our draft board. BTW thank god we didn't draft Landon Jackson who looks like a bust so far...but he's the exact type of try hard big edge this team covets. I assume Brad Holmes shot that down for the obvious reason that the guy is stiffer than a baseball bat.
No issue with Shepherd, he's not going anywhere. But there needs to be a schematic shift on how we view pass rush and that also hinges on Campbell. I don't want to hear about setting edges and stopping the run when our scheme allows QBs to sit in a pocket all day and pick man coverage apart. It's not working. Either change the scheme or get serious about pass rush...which means we need to stop taking smaller pass rushers off our draft board. BTW thank god we didn't draft Landon Jackson who looks like a bust so far...but he's the exact type of try hard big edge this team covets. I assume Brad Holmes shot that down for the obvious reason that the guy is stiffer than a baseball bat.
Yeah, some big decisions coming up this off season that could swing the pendulum heavily one way or the other. I definitely agree on them revamping their de philosophy. They're not even being that stout against the run lately so they're really not getting anything they planned from the dl.
Piff Perkins
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Worth noting the Ragnow return returns us to being over the cap for next year. We went from being 5mil under to 6mil over for 2026.
Obviously the Goff contract is going to be redone, moving most of that 69mil cap hit into the void years. There is going to be cap space for an impact player. Not Crosby or any fantasy bullshyt. But there is going to clearly be cash for a legit secondary pass rusher and something else (vet guard, depth pass rusher, etc).
The only way this works going forward is nailing drafts and hoping young guys take a step. I'm fine with trading picks for good players but overall this team needs as many 4-5 year rookie contracts as they can get. Which is why trading away those picks to move up in the draft has to stop. We literally don't have a drafted, young edge rusher on the roster besides Hutch. We have one drafted TE on the roster. Two drafted safeties. One drafted CB. This has to change to make the math work.
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Obviously the Goff contract is going to be redone, moving most of that 69mil cap hit into the void years. There is going to be cap space for an impact player. Not Crosby or any fantasy bullshyt. But there is going to clearly be cash for a legit secondary pass rusher and something else (vet guard, depth pass rusher, etc).
The only way this works going forward is nailing drafts and hoping young guys take a step. I'm fine with trading picks for good players but overall this team needs as many 4-5 year rookie contracts as they can get. Which is why trading away those picks to move up in the draft has to stop. We literally don't have a drafted, young edge rusher on the roster besides Hutch. We have one drafted TE on the roster. Two drafted safeties. One drafted CB. This has to change to make the math work.
The Vaki and Teslaa picks were inexcusable not to mention the actual misses
Piff Perkins
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I like Vaki but the Chiefs getting Jaden Hicks with the next pick is a perfect example of it being weird decision making. We picked a safety and turned him into an RB who never gets RB snaps; he's a great special teams player but I'm not trading up for that. Meanwhile the Chiefs got a good actual safety, who would give us flexibility with Branch (who played great yesterday).
I also like Teslaa and think he will be really good. But you know who else will be really good? Multiple big X receivers who were taken afterwards. We traded up from 100 to take TeSlaa at 70. Elic Ayomannor went in the fourth round at 136 and he's balling on a bad Titans team. Tory Horton went in the 5th round at 166. My point is we could have traded down and gotten either guy, or possibly still gotten TeSlaa. I've seen reports the Broncos wanted him at 74; they took Pat Bryant instead and he's balled too. A LOT of receivers with the same body type (but less athletic) were available. Holmes gets stuck in a curator mentality where he has to get the perfect, boutique piece instead of just trusting his board. He did the same with Manu, and even admitted he woke up on day 3 and felt he had to get him by any means. Stop doing that shyt man. I'll defend trading up a handful of picks for someone like Terrion or Ratledge who was an obvious day 1 starter with Pro Bowl potential. But trading hauls for developmental guys is not working and needs to stop. None of them have worked so far (not counting TeSlaa since it's early).
We could have been walking into the 2026 draft with two 3rd round picks and two 4th round picks. We'd have ammo to do whatever we wanted - or could have used it to trade for somebody this year. Holmes seems like he's curating a boutique roster at times instead of just taking the best available guy.
Piff Perkins
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Bears straight up blowing Carter/Davis off the line of scrimmage multiple times.
djthegreat88
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Season is over. They would have to win out and hope SF/Sea/Dal/GB collapse
Time to check out the mock drafts. Can probably get a top 15 pick this year
Time to check out the mock drafts. Can probably get a top 15 pick this year
Aren't they like a game or so behind for the last wildcard spot? It's not looking good but haven't been eliminated so there's a chance. You take it one game at a time.
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Piff Perkins
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Well we're done.
That statement sounds kind of final for next year too but I guess we need clarification. He's got 11mil guaranteed next year, I assume he sure as fukk wants that money.
That statement sounds kind of final for next year too but I guess we need clarification. He's got 11mil guaranteed next year, I assume he sure as fukk wants that money.
Hes done nikka
