Official ECF Thread: Miami Heat vs Boston Celtics

[Joe Sixpack]

The thing is, Bron doesn't trust his teamates, he yells at them and gives them dirty looks when they screw up........but then is unwilling to take charge

Because Mario Chalmers is a damn retard.. I watch all the Heat games.

Chalmers does stupid shyt all the time..

 

[fact]

Because Mario Chalmers is a damn retard.. I watch all the Heat games.

Chalmers does stupid shyt all the time..

Then whats the point? Lebron is scared to take the last shot now because he doesn't want to be responsible for the loss, but does enough all game to say "Iput us in a postion to win" that is fine too, but he will never be that dude until he gets that chip on his shoulder.

 

[FTBS]

It's not like it was one on one and he just passed out of the shyt.
He has done this before this season, shyt he did it in the all star game. face your boy is scared to shoot at the end unless he is WIDE open, which is ok for bosh or somebody but for the 3X MVP not he has to be able to make or atleast take those tough shots.

If Bron takes and makes a hook shot for the win tomorrow all is forgiven right?
yes but the problem we have been waiting for hime to do this for 7 years, and yea I know he made one against orlando a few years ago but thats about it.

There are plenty of guys who aren't superstars who wouldn't hesitate to shoot with the game on the line. Are Ben Gordon and Mario Chalmers and Derek Fisher separated from the pack as superstars? Being a superstar is all about what you do for 48 minutes night in and night out not one shot or pass for that matter.

What im saying is unlike Ben gordon or chalmers, Bron is considered the best so he has higher standards to live up to, You cant be dominant and unstoppable for 47 minutes then not finish what you started.

Not my boy and he's taken and made numerous shots late in games including the playoffs. Only time you can honestly say he looked scared was in the Finals last year.

He also hit game tying FT with less than a second left against ORL in that same series. He did everything an individual can do to win in that series and because his team lost his great effort in that series if forgotten/overlooked.

You said that not being tentative to take shots late is what makes a superstar and didnt' provide any other criteria. Therefore according to what you said those guys are superstars. Obviously they arent' but based purely of what you said you must think they are. How can Bron considered the best if he has always struggled in the area that defines superstardom according to you? Bron is superstar and those guys are not because of what happens for 48 minutes not one shot at the end. It's might funny how whenever someone points to guys like Fisher and their late game clutchiness nikkas suddenly remember that games have 47 other minutes in them. Either late game heroics make you great or they don't. You can't diminish one guy for not getting it done late and then dismiss those who do when they clearly fit the criteria you set forth.

 

[G.O.A.T]

Lebron NEEDS to take that shot, he is 6'7 270 who is going to block it? the problem is he has no confidence in his jumper and is always looking for someone to defer to because of it. When you win 3 MVP's and is considered the best player in basketball even while kobe was in his prime, and have a self proclaimed nick name and you HAVE to atleast take the GW. NO EXCUSES

He did what you're saying he should in game 2 and got ripped for it

 

[iamduval]

6'7 270? where do yall get these numbers from?

 

[He Who Posts Well]

Honestly Bron can't win no matter what scenario plays out.

Bron makes the shot, where was this in the finals or do it in the finals?
Bron misses, it was a bad shot or take a better one
Bron passes and a miss, he should of taken the shot
Bron passes and a teammate makes it, he is scared to take it himself.

It's a lose-lose no matter what

 

[Kang Deezy]

The Celtics are the better team when it's not 8 on 5.

 

[HendriX]

Chris Posh as soft as he is sometimes..would have given them at least 15 and 10..and this series woulda been a wrap in 5.

Wade makes that shot..its 3-1 and basically series over..now the heat HAVE to win game 5..its a must win...I dont like Bosh coming back in a game like this. He will be rusty as fukk and knowing lebron..he will try to get him involved.

That faqqit Doc Rivers played some great mind games on the refs.

 

[Kang Deezy]

If the Celtics win game 5, the series is over.

The Heat will completely fold in game 6 if the Celtics come out swinging.

The game would be over probably halfway through the 2nd quarter.

And Wade is not a fighter anymore, he's not the Wade of old. He's a b-yotch.

 

[Rayzah]

He did what you're saying he should in game 2 and got ripped for it

I dont think he should have got ripped for that game. I'm not a Lebron Hater I just call it like i see it, He is scared to take that shot.

Not my boy and he's taken and made numerous shots late in games including the playoffs. Only time you can honestly say he looked scared was in the Finals last year.

He also hit game tying FT with less than a second left against ORL in that same series. He did everything an individual can do to win in that series and because his team lost his great effort in that series if forgotten/overlooked.

You said that not being tentative to take shots late is what makes a superstar and didnt' provide any other criteria. Therefore according to what you said those guys are superstars. Obviously they arent' but based purely of what you said you must think they are. How can Bron considered the best if he has always struggled in the area that defines superstardom according to you? Bron is superstar and those guys are not because of what happens for 48 minutes not one shot at the end. It's might funny how whenever someone points to guys like Fisher and their late game clutchiness nikkas suddenly remember that games have 47 other minutes in them. Either late game heroics make you great or they don't. You can't diminish one guy for not getting it done late and then dismiss those who do when they clearly fit the criteria you set forth.

Look... thats what sets superstars apart, KD,Rose,Kobe,MJ,Magic....Lebron the difference is Lebron while having the talent and ability to dominate like those guys, he lacks the heart to put the pressure on him and tak that last shot.. he could of atlest tried to draw a foul, but he woould of probably found a way to miss the FT's

 

[Brief Keef]

BOSTON -- This is what Doc Rivers meant when he talked about the NBA being a "make-miss" league.

In the final seconds of yet another emotionally charged classic Boston Celtics-Miami Heat playoff scrum, the game's outcome rested in the hands of Dwyane Wade, Miami's All-Star closer.

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Had Dwyane Wade's last-second 3-pointer gone in, we'd be talking about another missed opportunity for the Celtics and preparing their obituary.
The Boston defender that stood between Wade and the basket was Marquis Daniels, who, until Game 3 of the Eastern Conference finals, was a seldom-used reserve, an afterthought, the dude with the dreadlocks.

The dude with the dreadlocks was told by his coach in the huddle that his man would wind up with the ball, particularly since LeBron James had fouled out 1:37 earlier, especially since Chris Bosh was still donning tailored suits instead of tapered game shorts

 

[FTBS]

I dont think he should have got ripped for that game. I'm not a Lebron Hater I just call it like i see it, He is scared to take that shot.




Look... thats what sets superstars apart, KD,Rose,Kobe,MJ,Magic....Lebron the difference is Lebron while having the talent and ability to dominate like those guys, he lacks the heart to put the pressure on him and tak that last shot.. he could of atlest tried to draw a foul, but he woould of probably found a way to miss the FT's

As great as KD and Rose are they still have some work to do in order to match let alone surpass Lebron's late game playoff resume. I've seen Mike and Kobe and especially Magic rely on others to make the big shot numerous times as well. The problem with this Skip Bayless, clutch gene, NBA started with Mike, best player must always take the last shot analysis is that it doesnt take into account that Bron's best attribute is his ability to pass and set up others. Bron is not a natural scorer like Wade or Kobe or Mike, he's a natural passer. The same way Kobe would rather shoot over 3 people than pass it is the same way Bron would rather draw 3 people and pass it than shoot over someone. People put way too much emphasis on scoring and totally ignore the other parts of the game. Bron scores because he can not because he wants to or is naturally inclined too. Bron has made clutch shots and he's also mad clutch passes, grabbed clutch rebounds, and made clutch defensive plays but when you look through the ESPN hyperbolic revisionist prism you would think he hasn't come up big in the clutch throughout his career when really he has. He does need to work on those FT though (Wade does too).

 

[23Barrettcity]

The thing is Lebron defenders there were other plays he could have made if he dribbled to his left, spo draws up a horrible play so he gotta follow it? He is a basketball player and 3 time MVP he should know better . Y'all make it seem like he had 3 guys surrounding him and he was like 35 ft away , he didn't try anything

 

[Lakers Offseason]

One thing I've noticed that I didn't know before is how dumb Pietrus is. Dude commits the dumbest fouls I've ever seen a player make.

 

[The War Report]