OFFICIAL Game of Holmes Season 8 Thread - A Dream of Flat Tops 4/14/19

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She didn't let Jon do shyt. She kept telling him they needed more men and he wouldn't listen. She also knew that he would automatically be against reaching out to LittleFinger for help which is why she never mentioned it to them. Remember what happened when LittleFinger went looking for a "thank you" from Jon. Not telling Jon was the right move, reaching out to LittleFinger for help was the right move. They do not get Winterfell back if she does not take those steps. And she did all that without having to pay a debt to Littlefinger, not allowing him to outsmart her in Winterfell and ultimately executing him.
When they had the argument after the war council and Jon said "what will you have me do" she said nothing but just hinted that he doesn't know Ramsay and is walking into his trap. She also apologized for not telling Jon about the Vale. Either way she wasn't letting him know about the Vale but telling him they need more men, Jon was big on we fight with the people we have and Sansa was being coy about her play which she parlayed into her claiming victory. They wouldn't get Winterfell if Jon didn't go in blind with the troops he had to draw out Ramsay creating the opportunity for the Vale. Her plan also relied on Jon's ignorance about the Vale and the sacrifice of the men he had.
 
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Nobody talking about anything but Bran and Sansa since the episode ended

Starks really do run this:obama:

Dany and Cersei rendered irrelevant:leon:

Dragons aint even under majority Targ control:dead:.....ol' 33% ass set:dead:....imagine Cersei having a direwolf or something. Never would happen.

Disgust at everyone who wrote us off over the years
 
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I think part of the issue people are having with Sansa's character is the result of Sophie not being a great actress. Not trying to shyt on her, but she hasn't done much from an acting perspective to make her turn into Cersei 2.0 believable

she's a decent actress. it's the writers. they're trying to paint her as this machiavellian character based off of nothing :heh:

when arya said she's the smartest person she knows i was thinking "based off of what"? :heh:

she's been a naive little girl for the entire show. there's nothing intelligent or enjoyable about her character.

I can understand blaming the writers or acting for not conveying it but it's clear that Sansa has gotten smarter and her peers have noticed it. From Arya last episode to Littlefinger, Tyrion, and Jon last season, various characters who've dealt with her when she was a naive little girl at the beginning of the series have explicitly remarked on how much smarter she's gotten in recent seasons.

Continuing to deny her growth is just blind Sansa hate at this point.
 

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THERE IS NO REASON TO BE WARY.

SHES THERE TO SAVE THEIR fukkING LIVES.

:devil:
:evil:

But what about after she saves their lives? Is she going to burn everyone, like she did with Sam's father and brother, who don't think that she's fit to rule or disagrees with her?
 

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Nobody talking about anything but Bran and Sansa since the episode ended

Starks really do run this:obama:

Dany and Cersei rendered irrelevant:leon:

Dragons aint even under majority Targ control:dead:.....ol' 33% ass set:dead:....imagine Cersei having a direwolf or something. Never would happen.

Disgust at everyone who wrote us off over the years

She shares them dragons :mjpls:
 

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LMAO

NO HE DIDNT.

THATS JUST HIS WAY OF JUSTIFYING
BREAKING HIS HOLY OATH.

IN REALITY
TYWINS COWARD ASS SAW THE MAD KING WAS LOSING THE WAR AND SWITCHED SIDES NEAR THE END...

THE MAD KING ORDER JAMIE TO BRING HIM TYWINS HEAD.

JAMIE STABS HIM IN THE BACK...

ROBS DUMB ASS ENDS UP MARRYING CERSEI
AND LETS JAMIE REMAIN ON HIS KINGS GUARD...

AND WE KNOW HOW THAT WENT.
:devil:
:evil:

It's not some made up justification, it's the truth. The wildfire Cersei used to blow up the Sept was just a portion of what the mad king had his pyromancers stash around the city waiting to be used. If Jamie doesn't kill him the city and the half a million people in it would've been burnt to a crisp.

Like I said, if Daeny can't see the contradiction in pressing Jamie over that when she killed Sam's father for less Snow will give her that pill she needs to swallow.
 

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Jamie shows up at Winterfell. :gladbron:
Sam finds out Danny killed his family. Meanwhile Dany doesnt know Sam is Jon's Ace.:ohhh:
Jon finds out he is the true king.:blessed:
Jon can now ride a dragon.:ooh:
Jon reunites with his family.:mjcry:
Jon knocking it down on the regular. :steviej:
The Golden Company is in Westeros. Cersei finds out the walkers are past the wall and is like :ehh:
Bronn is set up to kill Tyrion and Jamie.:hhh:
The north is in mutiny against Dany.:birdman:
Arya and Sansa scheming on Dany. :demonic:
Theon rescues his sister and decides to go back to help the Starks.:leon:
Gendry is back and he making dragon glass axes.:salute:
Bran like STFU with the BS we dont have time for your foolishness. :ufdup:
Bronn catches HIV.:damn:






The coli - This shyt was all filler :beli:
we obviously needed a detour to essos to know what the second sons are up to, what's good with the faceless men, and a check in on the travels of the unsullied from casterly rock to winterfell....because nothing else important happened
 

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Sophie is awful who told you otherwise
she's not, she's not amazing either tho. but awful is emilia, she's been a disservice to dany from inception, but at least she started out the first 3 seasons as a baddie, she's aged poorly to only be 32 IMO....them lines around her eyes were fierce.
 
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