Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US, Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

[Afro]

Israel kills 59 Palestinians in Gaza, many while trying to get aid

Thirteen starving Palestinians killed while trying to get food near the Netzarim Corridor and in Rafah’s al-Mawasi area.

www.aljazeera.com

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Israel kills 59 Palestinians in Gaza, many while trying to get aid​

Thirteen starving Palestinians are killed as they tried to get food near the Netzarim Corridor and in Rafah’s al-Mawasi area.

People carry relief supplies from the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation in the central Gaza Strip [File: Eyad Baba/AFP]
Published On 15 Jun 202515 Jun 2025


Israeli forces have killed 59 Palestinians across Gaza, at least 17 of whom were trying to get food at aid sites operated by the controversial United States and Israeli-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), according to the Ministry of Health, the latest deaths in areas that critics have slammed as “human slaughterhouses”.


Medics at al-Awda Hospital in central Gaza on Sunday told Al Jazeera that at least three people were killed and dozens wounded by Israeli fire as they tried to approach a GHF site near the so-called Netzarim Corridor, desperately seeking meagre food parcels for their hungry families.

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At least another 10 other aid seekers were reported killed and more than 50 injured in southern Gaza. Many of the dead and wounded were taken to the Red Cross Hospital in Rafah, according to medics.


“People have told us that the Israeli military did not warn the hungry crowds before opening fire on them, leading to devastating civilian casualties,” reported Al Jazeera’s Tareq Abu Azzoum from Deir el-Balah in central Gaza.


Ahmed al-Masri, who left one of the aid points empty-handed, described the shootings as “a trap”.


Multiple Israeli air raids also hammered southern Gaza on Sunday, killing at least 12 Palestinians there. Seven others were killed when an Israeli strike targeted a group of people in Beit Lahiya town in the north of the enclave, medics said.


At least eight people were killed by an Israeli strike on the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza. Palestinian agency Wafa reported that the attack on the residential building also wounded several people.

 

[Afro]

A recap of recent developments​

• Israel has renewed its attacks on Iran, striking the capital Tehran as well as other areas across the country for a third consecutive day.
• Israeli strikes have killed 224 people so far, according to Iran’s Health Ministry. Among them is the head of IRGC’s intelligence organisation Mohammed Kazemi, and two other generals.
• At least eight people have sustained wounds in Iranian strikes on Israel, including Haifa in the north, the country’s National Emergency Service said.
• The Israeli Civil Aviation Authority has announced a complete closure of airspace and airports.
• Israeli army chief Eyal Zamir has pledged to increase attacks on Iran, as part of a “historic and unprecedented operation aimed at delivering a significant blow to an existential threat”.
• President Trump said US “not at this moment involved” in the conflict between Iran and Israel after he wrote in a social media post that the warring countries will have peace “soon”.
• German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said the upcoming Group of Seven (G7) summit in Canada could yield an agreement on four key points, including the need to create space for diplomacy to help resolve the conflict between Israel and Iran.

 

[Sccit]

Then you wouldn't justify attacking Gazan civilians and the expansion of Israel in the West Bank via illegal settlements. I assume you also condemn the illegal settlements?

THERE IS NO "ILLEGAL" SETTLEMENTS IN JUDEA AND SAMARIA... THATS LAND THAT WAS INITIALLY LOST WHEN THE LUNATIC ARAB LEADERS DECIDED TO DECLARE WAR ON JEWS

AND NOW AFTER THEY LOST THEY WANT IT BACK WHILE DECLARING THAT ITS ILLEGAL FOR JEWS TO LIVE THERE?

LMAO

TELL ME MORE ABOUT APARTHEID, AS 2 MILLION ARABS LIVE IN ISRAEL FREELY WIT EQUAL RIGHTS



ISRAEL DOES NOT SYSTEMATICALLY TARGET CIVILIANS... U CAN MAKE THE CLAIM ALL U WANT, BUT THERE IS ZERO VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE. ALL HEARSAY.

 

[King Sun]

THERE IS NO "ILLEGAL" SETTLEMENTS IN JUDEA AND SAMARIA... THATS LAND THAT WAS INITIALLY LOST WHEN THE LUNATIC ARAB LEADERS DECIDED TO DECLARE WAR ON JEWS

AND NOW AFTER THEY LOST THEY WANT IT BACK WHILE DECLARING THAT ITS ILLEGAL FOR JEWS TO LIVE THERE?

LMAO

TELL ME MORE ABOUT APARTHEID, AS 2 MILLION ARABS LIVE IN ISRAEL FREELY WIT EQUAL RIGHTS



ISRAEL DOES NOT SYSTEMATICALLY TARGET CIVILIANS... U CAN MAKE THE CLAIM ALL U WANT, BUT THERE IS ZERO VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE. ALL HEARSAY.

 

[Sccit]

THEY TRIED TO WIPE US OUT N GOT THEIR SHIIT PUSHED IN AGAINST ALL ODDS

 

[kevin arnold]

This is Gaza, but bombs dropping like this is fukkin crazy

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Cat piss martini]

"THATS ME! IM THE REAL JEW!!!"

The Bible is about Black people.
You are a spawn of esau not jacob.
Now run along with the devil rhythm.
I'm protected from stolengolds wickedness.

 

[Sccit]

The Bible is about Black people.
You are a spawn of esau not jacob.
Now run along with the devil rhythm.
I'm protected from stolengolds wickedness.

SO WHATS STOPPIN U FROM BEIN A JEW AND FOLLOWING THE LAWS OF THE TORAH LIKE WE DO?

RETARD

 

[Outlaw]

As a Jehovah witness there is alot of chatter what this all means you see wars but trump keeps.claiming peace is near will it get worse more than likely is the time coming soon when all nations give their authority to the united nations becomes a global governance super power and when that finally happens they war against all religion and destroy it but the Jehovahs witnesses will survive weather that storm and then preach the destruction of all govenments by christ jesus? Its a possiblity .....we are paying attention earnestly.

Trump is an anti globalist he’s not going to relinquish power to the UN

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

Here's your Iron Dome

This thread is 90% arguing like it's an NBA or NFL game. Quoting myself to remind everyone of my crude Photoshop of the Iron Dome

 

[Seoul Gleou]

THERE IS NO "ILLEGAL" SETTLEMENTS IN JUDEA AND SAMARIA... THATS LAND THAT WAS INITIALLY LOST WHEN THE LUNATIC ARAB LEADERS DECIDED TO DECLARE WAR ON JEWS

The UN Security Council, International Court of Justice (ICJ), and every major human rights organization—including Israel’s own legal experts—agree settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention (Article 49), which prohibits occupying powers from transferring civilians into seized land. Even Reagan called them ‘illegal’ in 1982.

Are you claiming the entire world is wrong except Israel’s far-right government?

AND NOW AFTER THEY LOST THEY WANT IT BACK WHILE DECLARING THAT ITS ILLEGAL FOR JEWS TO LIVE THERE?

LMAO

The 1948 war didn’t nullify Palestinian land rights—otherwise, by that logic, Israel would have to return all land lost in the 1973 war. The West Bank was seized in 1967, where no Arab state ruled (it was Jordanian-occupied). Do you believe might makes right? If so, should China keep Tibet forever? Should Russia annex Crimea and Ukraine?

TELL ME MORE ABOUT APARTHEID, AS 2 MILLION ARABS LIVE IN ISRAEL FREELY WIT EQUAL RIGHTS

Israeli Arabs face systemic discrimination:

- Land: 93% of Israel’s land is controlled by the Jewish National Fund, which bars sales to non-Jews.

- Citizenship: Israel’s Nation-State Law (2018) enshrines Jewish supremacy, demoting Arabic and prioritizing ‘Jewish settlement.’

- Volence: Lynch mobs of Jews attacked Arabs in Lod and Acre in 2021 while police stood by.



This is textbook apartheid—separate rights based on ethnicity. Even Mandela said Israel’s system is worse than South Africa’s.

Was Nelson Mandela wrong?

ISRAEL DOES NOT SYSTEMATICALLY TARGET CIVILIANS... U CAN MAKE THE CLAIM ALL U WANT, BUT THERE IS ZERO VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE. ALL HEARSAY.

Israel’s own intelligence leaked the ‘Dahiya Doctrine’—deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure to inflict ‘pain’ (e.g., Gaza’s power plants, hospitals). Here’s verifiable evidence:

- 2023 Gaza War: Over 70% of casualties are women/children (UN).

- Journalist Deaths: 100+ killed (CPJ)—more than any modern conflict. Combined.

- AI Targeting: ‘Lavender’ system marked 37,000 Gazans as ‘Hamas suspects’ with 90% error rates (+972 Magazine).


If this isn’t systematic, why did Netanyahu quote Amalek (a biblical call for annihilation)?


If Israel’s actions are justified, why do Holocaust survivors like Gabor Maté and institutions like Yad Vashem warn it’s mirroring fascism?

Why did Mossad’s founder (Haim Shimoni) say settlements are ‘a cancer’?

What, if any, of Israel's actions do you condemn?

At what point does Zionism become indistinguishable from colonialism?

 

[BK360NATL]

Curiously, I searched on "When does the international sanctions against Iran permanently expire?" in Chat GPT. There appear to be legit sources to confirm this, including the UN.

Could this be what all this is about and why now????? Escalation to provoke an irrational response?

"The international sanctions against Iran, as established under United Nations Security Council (UNSC) Resolution 2231 (2015), are set to permanently expire on October 18, 2025, marking Termination Day. This date is exactly ten years after the JCPOA's Adoption Day on October 18, 2015 .

Key Sanctions and Provisions Set to Expire​

Upon Termination Day, the following measures will concludesteptoe.com)

• UN Arms Embargo: The restrictions on the sale, supply, or transfer of conventional arms to and from Iran will end.(washingtoninstitute.org)
• Missile Technology Restrictions: Iran will be permitted to engage in activities related to the development and testing of ballistic missiles and drones.(washingtoninstitute.org)
• Nuclear Procurement Channel: The mechanism overseeing Iran's acquisition of nuclear-related goods and services will be lifted.
• EU Sanctions: The European Union will terminate all remaining nuclear-related economic sanctions, including those on metals, software, and industrial processes .(steptoe.com)

These provisions are part of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), which aimed to limit Iran's nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. The expiration of these sanctions is contingent upon Iran's compliance with the agreement's terms.(tehrantimes.com)

Potential for Reinstatement: The Snapback Mechanism​

Despite the scheduled expiration, the snapback mechanism allows for the reimposition of sanctions if Iran is found to be in significant non-performance of its commitments. This mechanism remains in effect until October 18, 2025. If a JCPOA participant notifies the UNSC of a violation, the Council has 30 days to vote on whether to continue the sanctions relief. If no resolution is adopted, the previous sanctions automatically resume .(main.un.org, washingtoninstitute.org)

Current Status and Diplomatic Efforts​

As of June 2025, Iran has been accused by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) of breaching its nuclear nonproliferation obligations, including the presence of undeclared nuclear material and activities at certain sites. In response, Iran has announced plans to activate a third nuclear enrichment facility and has increased its stockpile of highly enriched uranium. These developments have escalated tensions and complicated ongoing diplomatic negotiations aimed at reviving the JCPOA .(washingtonpost.com, apnews.com)

The expiration of sanctions on October 18, 2025, is a significant milestone in the JCPOA framework. However, Iran's compliance with the agreement's terms will be crucial in determining whether these sanctions are permanently lifted or reinstated."

 

[Mirin4rmfar]

‘Iran lacks the firepower to sustain prolonged war with Israel’​

Israel has a qualitative and quantitative advantage in firepower over Iran, which has been able to wage successful attacks in the short term but lacks the resources to sustain a conflict for a protracted time, George Washington University lecturer Sina Azodi said.
“Israel receives the most advances US weapons systems and European weapons systems and has access to far more financial resources,” he said. On the contrary, he added that Iran is subject to severe economic sanctions and a crippling arms embargo, meaning even friendly nations such as Russia and China are unlikely to provide it with the military aid it requires.
“Iran has to rely on its domestic capacity to build missiles and launch them in large barrages that can overwhelm Israeli air defences and I don’t believe Iran can sustain this for a prolonged time,” Azodi said.

hhmmm I don't that matters when you have a group of people who are culturally willing to die for what they believe in. You are going to have fighters from Afghanistan pouring in, fighters from Pakistan pouring in, Iraq, Syria...F that, it such a dumb ass war that Israel is trying to drag people into.

 

[Afro]

Curiously, I searched on "When does the international sanctions against Iran permanently expire?" in Chat GPT. There appear to be legit sources to confirm this, including the UN.

Could this be what all this is about and why now????? Escalation to provoke an irrational response?

"The international sanctions against Iran, as established under United Nations Security Council (UNSC) Resolution 2231 (2015), are set to permanently expire on October 18, 2025, marking Termination Day. This date is exactly ten years after the JCPOA's Adoption Day on October 18, 2015 .

Key Sanctions and Provisions Set to Expire​

Upon Termination Day, the following measures will concludesteptoe.com)

• UN Arms Embargo: The restrictions on the sale, supply, or transfer of conventional arms to and from Iran will end.(washingtoninstitute.org)
• Missile Technology Restrictions: Iran will be permitted to engage in activities related to the development and testing of ballistic missiles and drones.(washingtoninstitute.org)
• Nuclear Procurement Channel: The mechanism overseeing Iran's acquisition of nuclear-related goods and services will be lifted.
• EU Sanctions: The European Union will terminate all remaining nuclear-related economic sanctions, including those on metals, software, and industrial processes .(steptoe.com)

These provisions are part of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), which aimed to limit Iran's nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. The expiration of these sanctions is contingent upon Iran's compliance with the agreement's terms.(tehrantimes.com)

Potential for Reinstatement: The Snapback Mechanism​

Despite the scheduled expiration, the snapback mechanism allows for the reimposition of sanctions if Iran is found to be in significant non-performance of its commitments. This mechanism remains in effect until October 18, 2025. If a JCPOA participant notifies the UNSC of a violation, the Council has 30 days to vote on whether to continue the sanctions relief. If no resolution is adopted, the previous sanctions automatically resume .(main.un.org, washingtoninstitute.org)

Current Status and Diplomatic Efforts​

As of June 2025, Iran has been accused by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) of breaching its nuclear nonproliferation obligations, including the presence of undeclared nuclear material and activities at certain sites. In response, Iran has announced plans to activate a third nuclear enrichment facility and has increased its stockpile of highly enriched uranium. These developments have escalated tensions and complicated ongoing diplomatic negotiations aimed at reviving the JCPOA .(washingtonpost.com, apnews.com)

The expiration of sanctions on October 18, 2025, is a significant milestone in the JCPOA framework. However, Iran's compliance with the agreement's terms will be crucial in determining whether these sanctions are permanently lifted or reinstated."

Damn, that is a very big deal