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Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US, Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)
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I will keep my eye on Israel to harm them.
I will not help them.”
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I will not help them.”
The Lord rules over all.
This video isn’t the clearest but it seems to show 7, maybe 8 interceptors launching which would indicate THAAD (8 tubes) rather than Arrow (6 tubes). The second Iranian impact hits right on the AD launch site. So possibly this is video of THAAD getting penetrated and damaged.
22 of the 24 (known) Iranian missile bases were fully operational. Even IF there is involvement of British and US air planes in firing missiles at Iran, it's apparent that there simply are not enough airframes available to Israel to hit all possible strategic targets in a single attack or even over several days.
Netanyahu admitted as much at the start of the attack, when he said that the attacks will "continue for 2 weeks or how ever long it takes". The U.S. Shock and Awe style of conflict either wins in the first 48 hours or it loses when the conflict switches to a war of attrition. If the Iranians wanted they could probably launch a single barrage of 600 or more missiles (this is what Israel was estimating a week ago), however doing so would reveal hidden launch sites to American satellite reconnaissance, who would obviously pass that information along to Israel for targeting and the Iranians could not defend all of these sites. So what the Iranians are doing is an attrition strategy of launching "limited" salvos of 200-300 missiles while setting up decoy missile bases for the Americans to target instead to prolong the conflict.
Remember for the past 2 years we've been constantly told that US/NATO/Israel collective military arms reserves have fallen to critical levels supporting the Ukrainian war with the Russia, the Yemeni bombing campaign, the Genocide in Gaza. Now, either those stories were all bunk to conceal a massive arms build up for a war with Iran that lasts 6 months to a year - OR - the collective West really does have an arms shortage and they cant maintain a missile campaign vs Iran that lasts more than a month or two (in which case, Trump will declare a unilateral ceasefire within a few weeks and try to walk things back to what they were before Israel started the war).
Ya just stop entertaining this guy. He's just hijacking this thread at this point
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Here’s what’s been happening:
- President Masoud Pezeshkian has urged Iranian people to unite as waves of Israeli missiles continue to cause extensive damage across the country, including the city of Kermanshah, where a hospital was hit.
- Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz says residents of Tehran will “pay the price” for Iran’s retaliatory attacks on Israel.
- The death toll from Iran’s overnight attacks on Israel rose to eight, with dozens more transferred to hospital for treatment for minor injuries, according to medics.
- An Iranian missile hit near a US Embassy building in Tel Aviv, causing minor damage, according to Washington’s envoy.
- A Foreign Ministry spokesman says Iran’s parliament is working on legislation to pull Tehran out of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).
Erdogan, Putin agree diplomacy is needed between Iran and Israel: Turkiye
The Turkish and Russian presidents have discussed regional issues during a phone conversation, according to the presidency in Ankara.
Erdogan and Putin agreed that the conflict between Iran and Israel must end and space must be given to diplomacy as soon as possible, it said in a statement.
The Turkish president also repeated his view that the only solution to the crisis was a return to nuclear talks with Iran.
Separately, the Kremlin said Putin and Erdogan condemned Israel’s “act of force” against Iran, according to Russia’s Interfax news agency.
“Both sides expressed the most serious concern about the ongoing escalation of the Iran-Israel conflict, which has already led to a large number of casualties and is fraught with serious long-term consequences for the entire region,” the Kremlin added.
“The leaders spoke in favour of an immediate cessation of hostilities and the settlement of contentious issues, including those related to the Iranian nuclear programme, exclusively by political and diplomatic means.”
Erdogan, left, and Putin [File: Alexander Demyanchuk/Sputnik/Pool via Reuters]
EU dismisses Russia as mediator between Israel and Iran
The European Union says Russia has “zero credibility” as a potential mediator between Iran and Israel, after Trump suggested yesterday that Putin could play a role.
“There has been a recent Russia-Iran partnership agreement, which signals deepening cooperation across multiple areas, including foreign policy and defence,” EU spokesman Anouar El Anouni said.
“In light of such, Russia cannot be an objective mediator.”
Speaking to ABC News on Sunday, Trump said he would be open to Putin being a mediator in the conflict. “He is ready. He called me about it. We had a long talk about it,” the US president said.
Pakistan closes border crossings with Iran
Pakistan has shut all its border crossings with neighbouring Iran for an indefinite period, according to provincial officials.
“Border facilities in all five districts – Chaghi, Washuk, Panjgur, Kech and Gwadar – have been suspended,” Qadir Bakhsh Pirkani, a senior official in Balochistan province, which borders Iran, told AFP.
Crossing into Iran “has been suspended until further notice”, said Attaul Munim, an official at one of the crossings in Chaghi district.
However, there was “no ban on trade” activities at the border, and Pakistani nationals needing to return to their country from Iran can cross, he added.
“We’re expecting around 200 Pakistani students coming today,” Munim said.
9 hr 5 min ago
Iran’s continued missile strikes on Israel are showing Tehran forces can regroup even after Israel killed multiple military commanders in its initial attack, an analyst told CNN.
“They (the Israelis) underestimated the Iranian ability to regroup after the Israelis very successfully targeted the top leadership of the Iranian military and managed to kill several of them,” said Trita Parsi, vice president of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.
Parsi said Israel believed they had “disrupted Iranian command and control” but that idea was “quickly restructured.”
What we are seeing now is that “Iranian missiles are successful in penetrating all layers of Israel’s air defense systems,” Parsi said.
Parsi was speaking to CNN as new waves of Iranian missiles rained down in the early hours of Monday morning and struck multiple locations.
Casualties are mounting on both sides as Iran and Israel widen attacks. Tehran residents are attempting to flee the capital in search of safety, while explosions and fire were seen in Israel overnight with residential buildings hit.
Some context: Iran’s highest-ranking military officer, the head of its elite Revolutionary Guards Corps and its air force and a former national security chief were killed in Israel’s unprecedented Operation Rising Lion last week.
Israel “underestimated” Iran’s ability to regroup, analyst says
From CNN’s Rhea MogulIran’s continued missile strikes on Israel are showing Tehran forces can regroup even after Israel killed multiple military commanders in its initial attack, an analyst told CNN.
“They (the Israelis) underestimated the Iranian ability to regroup after the Israelis very successfully targeted the top leadership of the Iranian military and managed to kill several of them,” said Trita Parsi, vice president of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.
Parsi said Israel believed they had “disrupted Iranian command and control” but that idea was “quickly restructured.”
What we are seeing now is that “Iranian missiles are successful in penetrating all layers of Israel’s air defense systems,” Parsi said.
Parsi was speaking to CNN as new waves of Iranian missiles rained down in the early hours of Monday morning and struck multiple locations.
Casualties are mounting on both sides as Iran and Israel widen attacks. Tehran residents are attempting to flee the capital in search of safety, while explosions and fire were seen in Israel overnight with residential buildings hit.
Some context: Iran’s highest-ranking military officer, the head of its elite Revolutionary Guards Corps and its air force and a former national security chief were killed in Israel’s unprecedented Operation Rising Lion last week.
7 hr 10 min ago
Israeli Air Force fighter jets have struck command centers belonging to the Quds Force, a clandestine wing of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.
“In these command centers, Quds operatives advanced terrorist attacks against the State of Israel using the proxies of the Iranian Regime in the Middle East,” an IDF spokesperson said.
An IDF video showed 10 sites it said were Quds and military targets it struck in Tehran.
Some context: The Quds force is powerful unit within the IRGC that was formed during the Iraq-Iran war in the 1980s as its special intelligence unit. It’s credited with taking the lead role in Iran’s relations with armed groups in the Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and the Gaza strip, including Hezbollah and Hamas.
The IRGC’s commander, Hossein Salami, was killed in Israel’s initial attacks on Iran on Friday. He has since been replaced by General Ahmed Vahidi.
Israel says it struck Iranian Quds Force command centers
From CNN's Lex HarveyIsraeli Air Force fighter jets have struck command centers belonging to the Quds Force, a clandestine wing of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.
“In these command centers, Quds operatives advanced terrorist attacks against the State of Israel using the proxies of the Iranian Regime in the Middle East,” an IDF spokesperson said.
An IDF video showed 10 sites it said were Quds and military targets it struck in Tehran.
Some context: The Quds force is powerful unit within the IRGC that was formed during the Iraq-Iran war in the 1980s as its special intelligence unit. It’s credited with taking the lead role in Iran’s relations with armed groups in the Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and the Gaza strip, including Hezbollah and Hamas.
The IRGC’s commander, Hossein Salami, was killed in Israel’s initial attacks on Iran on Friday. He has since been replaced by General Ahmed Vahidi.
Cult behavior.
5 hr 17 min ago
This screengrab from a video geolocated by CNN shows smoke rising from the direction of the Natanz nuclear facility in central Iran, about 260 km south of Tehran.
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Israel’s strikes on Iranian military facilities since Friday – including several nuclear sites – have resurfaced questions about how feasible it would be to destroy Iran’s nuclear program. A March report from the Royal United Services Institute shows that it wouldn’t be easy.
It would require significant firepower and assistance from the US – and even that joint effort might face challenges in penetrating Iran’s key nuclear fuel enrichment plants, which are deliberately buried deep underground.
These challenges, and the risk of escalating conflict with such an aggressive attack, is why it should remain “an option of last resort,” the report warned.
The main nuclear enrichment site in Natanz was hit by Israel’s strikes, but the extent to which the Israeli weaponry would be able to reach the buried facility is unknown.
It’s not known exactly how deep the underground enrichment equipment at Natanz is, though some estimates place it 8 meters (26 feet) deep.
Israel is thought to only have bombs that can penetrate to around 6 meters, depending on the composition of the earth and how much hardened concrete might lie below the surface, the report said.
Iran’s second key enrichment facility – the Fordow plant – is believed to be even deeper.
Though its depth is also unknown, estimates place Fordow’s facilities at 80 to 90 meters (262 to 295). It would not even be reachable by the US’ GBU-57 massive ordnance penetrator bombs, which only reach about 60 meters deep, according to the report.
And the GBU-57 can only be delivered by US Air Force B-2 stealth bombers, something Israel doesn’t have – even if the US would give it the bombs.
Even with the biggest bombs, Iran has other ways to protect its facilities, the report says.
“For instance, a buried facility that has rooms connected by long narrow shafts with multiple sets of thick blast doors and multiple external entry and exit points would be much harder to guarantee destruction of than a buried facility that has a single large cavern and/or a single entry and exit shaft,” the report said.
Israel and US would face steep risks in trying to destroy Iran’s underground nuclear sites, study says
From CNN’s Brad Lendon
This screengrab from a video geolocated by CNN shows smoke rising from the direction of the Natanz nuclear facility in central Iran, about 260 km south of Tehran.
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Israel’s strikes on Iranian military facilities since Friday – including several nuclear sites – have resurfaced questions about how feasible it would be to destroy Iran’s nuclear program. A March report from the Royal United Services Institute shows that it wouldn’t be easy.
It would require significant firepower and assistance from the US – and even that joint effort might face challenges in penetrating Iran’s key nuclear fuel enrichment plants, which are deliberately buried deep underground.
These challenges, and the risk of escalating conflict with such an aggressive attack, is why it should remain “an option of last resort,” the report warned.
The main nuclear enrichment site in Natanz was hit by Israel’s strikes, but the extent to which the Israeli weaponry would be able to reach the buried facility is unknown.
It’s not known exactly how deep the underground enrichment equipment at Natanz is, though some estimates place it 8 meters (26 feet) deep.
Israel is thought to only have bombs that can penetrate to around 6 meters, depending on the composition of the earth and how much hardened concrete might lie below the surface, the report said.
Iran’s second key enrichment facility – the Fordow plant – is believed to be even deeper.
Though its depth is also unknown, estimates place Fordow’s facilities at 80 to 90 meters (262 to 295). It would not even be reachable by the US’ GBU-57 massive ordnance penetrator bombs, which only reach about 60 meters deep, according to the report.
And the GBU-57 can only be delivered by US Air Force B-2 stealth bombers, something Israel doesn’t have – even if the US would give it the bombs.
Even with the biggest bombs, Iran has other ways to protect its facilities, the report says.
“For instance, a buried facility that has rooms connected by long narrow shafts with multiple sets of thick blast doors and multiple external entry and exit points would be much harder to guarantee destruction of than a buried facility that has a single large cavern and/or a single entry and exit shaft,” the report said.
