Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US, Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

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I wondering if it surging due to the report that Iran is willing to talk to America again.
Yeah, I’m guessing that’s a big part of it as well. End of the day this was yet another “WW3!!” false signal.

I just honestly don’t think Middle East issues are going to start WW3. Something directly involving China, Russia, EU and the U.S directly saying “fukk you” to each other over a resource is the only thing that’ll do that imo. Most other things the market will bounce back quickly. I think at the end of the day the U.S and Russia would let go of both Israel and Iran before they tank their own countries.

The closest event we got right now to WW3 is Russia vs Ukraine/EU. Trump pulling that shyt with Zelenskyy got more people on edge when many thought we were going to side with Russia (legit had me questioning things). That conflict involves all four of the world’s Super Powers one or two degrees away. There is a serious push for rare earth materials right now, because batteries are what countries want to stock up on at this point.

I honestly think we’re approaching the point where we’d go to war over rare earth materials rather than oil in the future.
 
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When it comes to palestinians being forced out of a place they been living in for 1000s of years: "it isn't their homeland....it was promised to us 6000 years ago"

When it comes your fakkit junkie ass leaving LA: "I cant leave a place i been living at my entire life....I got crack to smoke and dikks to suck"

Which one is it fakkit?


THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO FORCED PALESTINIANS OUT WERE ARAB LEADERS IN AN ATTEMPT TO DESTROY US. WE WERE PERFECTLY FINE LIVING SIDE BY SIDE WIT THE ARABS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THATS NOT SOMETHING THEY WERE DOWN WITH.
 

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False flag? The many ways US could be dragged into Israel’s attack​


The United States should be wary of a “false flag” attack by Israel on US interests in order to draw it into the fight against Iran, warns Daniel Levy, a former Israeli negotiator.
“What you can expect is Israel will try to maximise the prospect of the US joining. Of course, you have the neocons inside the Trump administration – the militarists, the Israel-firsters, the Israel lobby,” he said.
“Israel is trying to provoke Iran and hoping Iran might directly target something American,” Levy, the current director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at the European Council on Foreign Relations, told Al Jazeera.
The US could also enter the fray if Iran decides to close maritime traffic in the Strait of Hormuz, withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, or remove nuclear inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency from the country, he added.
“In a circumstance such as this one, you always have to be on the lookout for false-flag operations – something that appears that it was Iranian-backed, but something that is Israeli subterfuge to draw the Americans in,” Levy said.
 

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For Iranian leaders, ‘if there is no cost to attacking Iran, Tehran would look like Gaza’​


Foad Izadi, a professor of international relations at the University of Tehran, says Iran has not used all its military capacity in its retaliatory attacks on Israel so far.
“The message is that they are hoping for the Israelis to stop and they are gradually going to increase the pressure if the Israelis don’t stop,” he told Al Jazeera.
“They haven’t used some of their most advanced weapons. They haven’t used other means of confronting the Israelis,” Izadi said.
He added the hope is that under international pressure, Israel will stop its attacks.
“If that doesn’t happen, the missiles are going to get bigger in terms of size and more in terms of quantity – until you have the other side stopping,” Izadi said, noting that the calculation of Iranian leaders is that “if there is no cost to attacking Iran, Tehran would look like Gaza.”
 

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What does UK’s military presence in the Middle East look like?​


The United Kingdom is reinforcing its military assets in the Middle East as tensions intensify between Israel and Iran, Prime Minister Keir Starmer says.
During a trip to Canada for the G7 summit, Starmer told reporters that additional Eurofighter Typhoon jets and refuelling aircraft have been deployed for “contingency support”. Royal Air Force (RAF) fighter jets are already engaged in Operation Shader, the UK’s mission against ISIL (ISIS).
RAF Typhoon jets aided Israel in April 2024 when they shot down an unspecified number of drones fired by Iran, as confirmed by the UK’s then-Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.
The RAF operates from key bases including in Cyprus, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Oman.
The British Royal Navy’s main operations site in the Middle East is in Bahrain.
 

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You saying black people ain’t from Middle East is crazy. Black people are the original natives to this earth. All other races are descendants of black people. The black man was the first human to touch the Middle East, we was the first people there, yall dnt have the complexion for protection to even have settled there at first. So while I fukks with Israel and hope they blow Iran off map..jsut know that yall are tenants on the black man’s earth.


RACE IS A MADE UP SOCIAL CONSTRUCT

ITS BASED ON WEATHER

BLACK PEOPLE ARE FROM AFRICA .. THEY ARE BLACK BECAUSE ITS BY FAR THE HOTTEST CONTINENT ON EARTH

THE MIDDLE EAST IS FAR LESS HOT THAN AFRICA, BUT FAR LESS COLD THAN EUROPE

HENCE THE INDIGENOUS INHABITANTS WOULD BE NOT BLACK NOR WHITE, BUT RATHER IN BETWEEN


LIKE THE MIZRAHI JEWS:

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THE PROBLEM WIT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT THEY ONLY KNOW JEWS BASED ON THE MEDIA DEPICTION (SETH ROGAN, ADAM
SANDLER), FORGETTING THAT MOST JEWS IN ISRAEL ARE ACTUALLY MIDDLE EASTERN

I LIKE YOU AS A POSTER BECAUSE YOU SEEM REASONABLE.. BUT THE SCIENCE BEHIND SKIN TONE HAS ALWAYS EXPLAINED THAT COMPLEXION IS WEATHER BASED
 

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What’s happening in Gaza?​


Israel has continued its attacks across Gaza. Here is the latest:
  • At least 48 people have been killed since dawn, including 33 Palestinians waiting for aid, Gaza health authorities say.
  • Sixty Palestinians have been wounded near the Netzarim Corridor aid distribution point, according to al-Awda Hospital.
  • Much of the fighting has been concentrated in northern Gaza, where Israeli ground operations are intensifying in all towns near Gaza’s boundary with Israel.
  • UN human rights chief Volker Turk says Israel’s “means and methods of warfare are inflicting horrifying, unconscionable suffering on Palestinians in Gaza”.
You can follow all our coverage of Israel’s war on Gaza here.
 

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Yeah, I’m guessing that’s a big part of it as well. End of the day this was yet another “WW3!!” false signal.

I just honestly don’t think Middle East issues are going to start WW3. Something directly involving China, Russia, EU and the U.S directly saying “fukk you” to each other over a resource is the only thing that’ll do that imo. Most other things the market will bounce back quickly. I think at the end of the day the U.S and Russia would let go of both let Israel and Iran before they tank their own countries.

The closest event we got right now to WW3 is Russia vs Ukraine/EU. Trump pulling that shyt with Zelenskyy got more people on edge when they thought were going to dude with Russia (legit had me questioning things). That conflict involves all four of the world’s Super Powers one or two degrees away. There is a serious push for rare earth materials right now, because batteries are what countries want to stock up on at this point.

Another reason why there is no upside to America joining this. It's a regional problem (that COULD grow into a bigger problem.) but it's a guarantee if America joins the fight.
 

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Analysis

False flag? The many ways US could be dragged into Israel’s attack​


The United States should be wary of a “false flag” attack by Israel on US interests in order to draw it into the fight against Iran, warns Daniel Levy, a former Israeli negotiator.
“What you can expect is Israel will try to maximise the prospect of the US joining. Of course, you have the neocons inside the Trump administration – the militarists, the Israel-firsters, the Israel lobby,” he said.
“Israel is trying to provoke Iran and hoping Iran might directly target something American,” Levy, the current director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at the European Council on Foreign Relations, told Al Jazeera.
The US could also enter the fray if Iran decides to close maritime traffic in the Strait of Hormuz, withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, or remove nuclear inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency from the country, he added.
“In a circumstance such as this one, you always have to be on the lookout for false-flag operations – something that appears that it was Iranian-backed, but something that is Israeli subterfuge to draw the Americans in,” Levy said.
this is something ive been thinking about

staying my ass inside the next few weeks
 
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