Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US/Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

[hashmander]

Kinda confused with somthing....so Trump dropped America from the Iran deal but they continued to comply with the deal with other countries and allowing inspectors to contuie to inspect and as far as i recall they were complying.....if this is still going on then how can it be true when Israel is saying Iran are just days away from making nukes? International Inspectors missed all that excessive progress? What am i missing guys

as far as israel is concerned as long as iran exists as a country they are days away from a nuclear weapon. that's been the case since the 90s, so it's clearly not earth days, nuttyahoo must mean days as measured by some distant planet.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Statement released by the IDF:

IDF: The IDF Has Established Aerial Superiority From Western Iran to Tehran
Attached are the following:
3D illustration of the strikes on the Iranian regime’s Aerial Defense Array in the Tehran area: https://videoidf.azureedge.net/ba33e888-053e-494a-a084-54c170e38b88
Attached is an illustration of IDF strikes in Iran to date: https://videoidf.azureedge.net/cf0bd6b8-08dc-464f-a4b3-cb273db212f3
Attached is footage of a strike on surface-to-surface missile launchers: https://videoidf.azureedge.net/bd98d994-9c52-48c6-94bf-673d12b4dd89

 

[Mister Terrific]

Statement released by the IDF:

IDF: IDF Eliminates Over 20 Iranian Commanders Including Armed Forces’ Head of the Intelligence Directorate and Commander of the IRGC’s Surface-To-Surface Missile Array
In the opening strike of Operation ״Rising Lion״, IAF fighter jets, guided by precise intelligence from the IDF Intelligence Directorate, eliminated both the head of the Intelligence Directorate in the Iranian Armed Forces General Staff and the commander of the IRGC’s Surface-To-Surface Missile Array. Since the beginning of the operation, over 20 commanders in the Iranian regime’s security apparatus have been eliminated.


The head of the Intelligence Directorate in the Iranian Armed Forces General Staff, Gholam-Reza Marhabi, was responsible for intelligence situational assessments for the Iranian Armed Forces and was considered Iran’s most senior intelligence officer. Marhabi played a key role in intelligence evaluations, operational planning, and combat preparations against Israel in the past year and before. He was also a highly respected senior figure within the regime’s security organization and a close associate of the Iranian Armed Forces Chief of Staff, Mohammad Hossein Bagheri, who was also eliminated in the opening strike.
The commander of the IRGC’s Surface-To-Surface Missile Array, Mohammad Bagheri, oversaw most of Iran’s long-range surface-to-surface and cruise missile capabilities. These capabilities serve as the regime’s primary offensive tools against the State of Israel. Bagheri managed Iran’s firepower systems and played an active role in the decision-making processes behind Iran’s attacks on Israel in April and October 2024. He was eliminated alongside IRGC’s Air Force Commander, Amir Ali Hajizadeh, and several other senior officials in an underground headquarters in Tehran.
Attached is a chart outlining the Iranian regime’s security chain of command: https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC14062593582932414

 

[Robbie3000]

Its crazy that MSNBC is almost completely ignoring this war. Israel is one of those rare times when you’ll see Fox News and MSNBC on the same side.

Not to on mention Republican and Democratic politicians.

American citizens have no advocates in media or government against a foreign country.

It’s crazy when you think about it.

 

[hashmander]

Its crazy that MSNBC is almost completely ignoring this war. Israel is one of those rare times when you’ll see Fox News and MSNBC on the same side.

Not to on mention Republican and Democratic politicians.

American citizens have no advocates in media or government against a foreign country.

It’s crazy when you think about it.

money and bible revelations fantasies formed like voltron and resulted in bi-partisan consensus.

 

[Seoul Gleou]

Its crazy that MSNBC is almost completely ignoring this war. Israel is one of those rare times when you’ll see Fox News and MSNBC on the same side.

Not to on mention Republican and Democratic politicians.

American citizens have no advocates in media or government against a foreign country.

It’s crazy when you think about it.

And when accusations of these networks being effectively state propaganda are lodged, the very people being placated become defensive on the propagandists' behalf

 

[IIVI]

UN criticizing Israel about attacking nuclear facilities.

 

[IIVI]

Kinda confused with somthing....so Trump dropped America from the Iran deal but they continued to comply with the deal with other countries and allowing inspectors to contuie to inspect and as far as i recall they were complying.....if this is still going on then how can it be true when Israel is saying Iran are just days away from making nukes? International Inspectors missed all that excessive progress? What am i missing guys

Iran hasn’t been reporting honestly. The IAEA said something about them having no need to increase enrichment to the point they did unless they were going for a weapon.

They had nuclear power running at levels that were sufficient to power the whole country, then they started to have plenty more nuclear activity that was found they didn’t report. The kind of activity regarding the development of nuclear weapons.



So if you’re running your nation fine as is with regards to the power grid, why do you increase your stockpile of highly enriched uranium by 50%? That’s way more than you need.

It sounds like they’ve moved (or it’s already there) that stockpile to their underground nuclear facility which’ll take that 60% to 90%, the yield needed for weapons grade uranium, a process that only takes a few weeks (going from 0.7% to 60% takes years and they’ve already done that).

You combine that with all the nuclear talk surrounding Iran, the fact they’re running operations a mile underground and 99% chance they’re going for the nuclear weapon.

 

[Still Benefited]

The I live an enjoy living in a western country, but fully deepthroat authoritarian government crowd is in here strong. It’s one thing criticize the situation in Gaza, but to act like Iran are the goods guys is just plain lacking critical thinking skills

Lesser of two evils is what thecoli told me


If Trump is talking about ending their empire,i guess we will see if they really have nukes in the tuck or not.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Iran hasn’t been reporting honestly. The IAEA said something about them having no need to increase enrichment to the point they did unless they were going for a weapon.

They had nuclear power running at levels that were sufficient to power the whole country, then they started to have plenty more nuclear activity that was found they didn’t report. The kind of activity regarding the development of nuclear weapons.



So if you’re running your nation fine as is with regards to the power grid, why do you increase your stockpile of highly enriched uranium by 50%? That’s way more than you need.

It sounds like they’ve moved (or it’s already there) that stockpile to their underground nuclear facility which’ll take that 60% to 90%, the yield needed for weapons grade uranium, a process that only takes a few weeks (going from 0.7% to 60% takes years and they’ve already done that).

You combine that with all the nuclear talk surrounding Iran, the fact they’re running operations a mile underground and 99% chance they’re going for the nuclear weapon.

we've been hearing this shyt since 1993. we don't fukking care or believe it at this point.

 

[ReasonableMatic]

Truth be told that helicopter that crashed with the president last year probably was an assassination in hindsight. The regime just didn’t want to admit that Israel had infiltrated to that extent or they would look weak.

Same thing with Hɛzbollah bein infiltrated.

The key figures in their army being assassinated most likely permanently disabled and compromised it to no return, as it allows lower ranking Mōssad to climb the ranks.

This along with the lsraeli occupation of Syria allowed the current attack to happen, because the Hermon mountain was a blind spot for lsrael because of its height.

On top of Assad’s air defense at the time making it impossible to launch such an attack, because it was too far and too risky.

lsrael overthrowing Assad and immediately destroying their air defense and taking Hermon mountain was to remove their own blind spot with radars on Mt Hermon to look deep into Lebanon and Syria.

Cutting off Hɛzbollah’s trade route with Iran.
While also allowing their stealthjets to fly deep into Syria with a tankerjet and attack Iran without running out of fuel.

It was a longterm play.

 

[IIVI]

we've been hearing this shyt since 1993. we don't fukking care or believe it at this point.

Any country with nuclear power or a functional nuclear power plant can easily obtain a weapon from there, in a matter of weeks. Iran has stable nuclear power and they recently upped their supply far past the point of what’s necessary to run their country. Iran’s first nuclear power plant went live only 10 years ago.

All I’m saying is if your enemy does anything suspicious with nuclear payloads, especially if they’ve launched missiles at you, you probably want to pay attention and be way more defensive/aggressive when you can.

I hate what Israel has done like most people, but in this case I can’t blame them either. From Israel’s point of view, once Iran gets that nuke it’s over. I’m looking at it purely from a view of preservation and survival on their end.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

I hate what Israel has done like most people, but in this case I can’t blame them either.

i'm sure.

Iran has been '5 minutes away' for the last metaphorical 3 hours. They've been about to get a nuke as a provocation for being attacked since we were children.

Why do you still believe that A. this is TRUE, B. this has changed significantly at all, C. is a reason to attack. If your neighbor across the street you don't like buys a pistol can you go shoot up their house?

i doubt we'll come to some agreement here, but it is the flimsiest shyt ever and at some point you have to at the "Iran is X time period away from a nuke" shyt.

When Israel DOES nuke Iran, remember this conversation.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Iran International:

Israeli drone attacks target LPG tanks at Iranian gas refinery
Iranian media are reporting Israeli drone attacks against the LPG tanks of Iran's Fajr Jam Gas Refining Company.

and:

Iran's South Pars gas field targeted by Israeli airstrikes - IRGC outlet
Israeli micro air vehicle have targeted the Phase 14 of Iran's South Pars gas field, the world's largest natural gas field shared by Iran and Qatar.

• ⁠Israeli drone strike targets LPG tanks at Iranian gas refinery
• ⁠Iran's South Pars gas field targeted by Israeli airstrikes - IRGC outlet

 

[IIVI]

i'm sure.

Iran has been '5 minutes away' for the last metaphorical 3 hours. They've been about to get a nuke as a provocation for being attacked since we were children.

Why do you still believe that A. this is TRUE, B. this has changed significantly at all, C. is a reason to attack. If your neighbor across the street you don't like buys a pistol can you go shoot up their house?

i doubt we'll come to some agreement here, but it is the flimsiest shyt ever and at some point you have to at the "Iran is X time period away from a nuke" shyt.

When Israel DOES nuke Iran, remember this conversation.

Iran’s first nuclear power plant went live only a little over 10 years ago. They are highly capable of creating a weapon at that point because running a nuclear power plant along with holding uranium at 60% enrichment which takes years to do, in some cases decades for poorer countries to build. Many countries aren’t at that capability.

Taking that 60% enriched uranium from there to 90% which is weapons grade only takes weeks. Getting to 60% enrichment is the most difficult part because it’s literally 90% of the work and what most non-nuclear countries fall short in. The fact they’ve had 60% enrichment means with a snap of their fingers they can get a nuclear weapon from there. That was far from the case in the 90’s and 2000’s because they didn’t even have nuclear power.

So it’s not a theory or speculation at this point: they can absolutely make a nuclear weapon in a matter of weeks because they have a legit live nuclear power plant running. The hard part of being able to create a nuclear weapon has been over for them. It’s no longer theorycrafting. There are 9 countries with nuclear weapons but 22 other countries with live nuclear power plants/reactors and are capable of building a nuclear weapon, 15 of which with domestic enriching capabilities. Iran is one of them (a large part of Latin America can get it poppin if they really wanted to) when given time.

Only recently did Iran have way more nuclear material than they needed. Given the combative exchanges with Israel over the last year it’s a more valid time than any other in history for them to be paranoid.