Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US/Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)
- Thread starter Afro
- Start date
1/41
@sentdefender
U.S. President Donald J. Trump stated in a post earlier on Truth Social that “The U.S. had nothing to do with the attack on Iran, tonight.” Adding, “If we are attacked in any way, shape or form by Iran, the full strength and might of the U.S. Armed Forces will come down on you at levels never seen before.” President Trump then states that he still believes that a deal is possible between Israel and Iran.
2/41
@SailingACH
Notice the comma. Emphasis on “tonight”
3/41
@chalavyishmael
Didn't they just launch drones at a U.S. base?
4/41
@ShaneConnor
If the US was involved, you would know. Everyone would know.
5/41
@MdKamar21
6/41
@LikeToasters
So just tonight.
7/41
@dahon8000311788
8/41
@RealLifeFootage
Yeah I have no idea why he is saying this.
9/41
@stackheaper
i think the US just needs to hide a stratofortress inside an apartment building in israel for the idf to find and utilize
10/41
@LeOneBozo
like the past 5 attempts? Iran doesn't make deals
11/41
@CCknockout
One of his “deals” eh?
12/41
@shadychronicle
He actually states “WE can can easily get a deal done”
13/41
@JamesRi34113613
.....However, we can easily get a deal done between Iran & Israel....
The floor's all yours Pres. Trump..the floor's all yours.
14/41
@EndGameWW3
Just like we can still get a deal between Ukraine and Russia...
15/41
@SamiZoila73895
I heard that before with Yemen
but eventually trump gave up.
16/41
@Dr_Respect77
Just test him
17/41
@MasterHistory23
He states the US will only get involved if attacked. Understandable! But why does he inject “we” when talking about “deals” between Iran and Israel?
How did the negotiations with Iran on ceasing nuclear ambitions turn out?
18/41
@realmof_reality
Zero chance Israel goes to the table and zero chance Iran actually gives up their nuclear program. No need to waste time on that one
19/41
@TheTakePolitics
Iran has 4 options:
1. Maintain the status quo of what they are doing. Eventually Israel will run out of missile interceptors, but so too eventually will Iran run out of missiles to fire, so a war of attrition. Israel bombing routinely though will probably lead ultimately to a strategic defeat of Iran if it chooses this
2. Widen the war by attacking other Arab countries to try and put pressure on them, and by extension the US. The idea here being to get the U.S. and Arab countries to rein in Israel. The obvious risks here are the U.S. and the other Arab countries could get involved to defend themselves and strike back. It would certainly poison those relationships between Iran and their neighbors and may lead to war with their Arab neighbors in addition to the U.S.
3. Widen the war by attacking the U.S. directly. It’d put pressure on Trump but it could backfire bad if instead of being spooked, Trump is made angry and formally enters the war on the side of Israel
4. They could do what Trump says and try to negotiate
20/41
@AntiRevision
china watch and wait
21/41
@bquicker
The sweet is never as good without the sour.
22/41
@realahart
Is this enough to scare Iran you figure?
23/41
@galaxyai__
Trying to keep doors open while sounding tough as nails.
24/41
@elisio_djuric
There’s no deal anymore after what Israel did, if the US does something to Iran, China will def intervene
25/41
@HectorsCannula
He's saying (not caps this time),
FAFO
26/41
@squawk_hawk
Well they did try so. Trump is all talk.
27/41
@Beniwal_break
Why are you waiting trump
28/41
@ollobrains
elow are nine forward‑leaning ideas—part strategic analysis, part policy sketch—that move the conversation beyond President Trump’s Truth Social warning (“The U.S. had nothing to do with the attack… If we are attacked … the full strength and might of the U.S. Armed Forces will come down on you… yet a deal is still possible between Israel and Iran”). Each idea is rooted in today’s facts but tries to open unexplored diplomatic or deterrence lanes.
1 | Separate the nuclear file from the regional‑proxy file—with a dual‑track clock
What’s new? Propose two parallel negotiations that expire on different timelines:
Track A (90‑day clock) focuses only on fissile‑material caps, IAEA “snap inspections” and zero enrichment above 3.67 %.
Track B (365‑day clock) tackles Iran’s missile reach, IRGC proxy activity and Israel’s shadow strikes.
Why it matters: Trump’s public vow of overwhelming force gives Iran an incentive to code everything as existential; splitting the files lets Tehran pocket nuclear guarantees quickly while buying runway for the harder missile‑proxy bargains. Washington can sell Track A as “mission accomplished on the gravest threat,” defusing immediate escalation.
2 | Make the next negotiating venue Muscat, not Vienna
Oman’s capital has hosted quiet U.S.–Iran breakthroughs before, but it also holds back‑channels to Israel through Gulf business networks. A trilateral Muscat hub lowers political temperature: Iran can claim it never negotiated “in enemy territory,” and Israel can quietly feed technical data without televising handshake photos. Trump’s claim that a deal is still possible gains an on‑ramp that doesn’t require Tehran to walk into an American‑ or European‑run room.
3 | Test an “Off‑Ramp for Drones” CBM
Both sides fear the other’s unmanned swarms more than manned aircraft. A one‑page confidence‑building measure could read: “No drone flights within 100 km of internationally recognized borders for 30 days.” Simple ISR satellites can verify compliance. This quick win would let Trump claim deterrence success while giving Iran proof that pullback earns tangible relief. If the micro‑deal bites, expand the radius each month.
4 | Offer Iran a “Cascading Sanctions Rebate” instead of lump‑sum relief
Washington could legislate a standing escrow account: for every cumulative kilogram of 20 % enriched uranium shipped to a third‑party (e.g., Kazakhstan), a fixed tranche of frozen oil revenue is released. The novelty is reversibility: any breach re‑freezes the same tranche within 72 h. That matches Trump’s transactional style—earn each dollar—and is harder for Congress to label a “blank cheque.”
5 | Leverage Trump’s “nothing to do with the attack” line to pilot Israeli strategic opacity 2.0
Israel’s strike, followed by U.S. “plausible non‑involvement,” is de‑facto recognition that Jerusalem sometimes acts without the American trigger. Codify this in a side‑letter: the U.S. keeps distance from unilateral Israeli raids if Israel pre‑notifies Washington via a cyber‑secure “red folder.” Iran gains a clearer deterrent threshold because any truly U.S.‑tagged operation would look different (carrier movements, bomber deployments). Ambiguity shrinks, crisis predictability rises.
6 | Deploy an AI‑moderated hotline that flags launch signatures in <15 s
Current U.S.–Russia de‑escalation lines still rely on human voice. A U.S.–Iran‑Israel tri‑node hotline that auto‑pushes real‑time missile‑launch analytics (from DSP or SBIRS sensors) could reduce mistaken attributions—critical when Trump threatens “force at levels never seen.” If a projectile is clearly not U.S.‑made, the AI alert buys decision‑makers minutes to pause retaliatory orders.
7 | Invite the Gulf Cooperation Council to chair a “Nashville Accord on Nuclear Energy”
Position it ironically in Nashville during a U.S. energy summit to let Trump frame the deal as an American jobs program: U.S. SMR (small modular reactor) companies build civil reactors in the Gulf and Iran—under the same safeguards. Tehran gets kilowatts and prestige; Israel gets inspectors crawling all over any Iranian reactor site; U.S. industry gets exports. The branding—as a Southern jobs story—could neutralize domestic hawks who equate compromise with weakness.
8 | Harness blockchain oil‑swap vouchers to bypass sanction dead‑ends
Rather than lift oil sanctions wholesale, issue Iran fungible “energy infrastructure vouchers” redeemable only with approved U.S., EU or Gulf contractors for pipeline upgrades, grid stabilization, or hospital diesel reserves. The public sees zero “cash windfall,” satisfying Trump’s base; Tehran can still claim victory at home because its economy physically improves.
9 | Establish a “Middle‑East STRATCOM” wargame that includes Tehran
The Pentagon could invite mid‑career Iranian national‑defense scholars (using Swiss intermediaries) to annual non‑classified tabletop exercises on mis‑launch scenarios. Precedent: Cold‑War U.S.–Soviet DASV workgroups that quietly rewired both sides’ launch doctrines. If Trump truly wants Iran to believe in unprecedented U.S. force yet also in a path to safety, exposing Iranian officers to STRATCOM logic demystifies red lines—and shows them exactly how overwhelming a U.S. response could be.
Bottom line
Trump’s Truth Social post uses the classic deterrence triad—distance (no U.S. role), threat (unmatched force), and door‑opening (“a deal is possible”). The ideas above exploit each pillar: clarify distance via Israeli opacity protocols; sharpen threat understanding through joint STRATCOM exposure; and widen the diplomatic door with escrow‑sanctions, Muscat channels, and AI hotlines. None require trust—only verifiable, reversible steps that let every side declare a win before the next missile launches.
29/41
@kdeanc
You could just post his post and not add words to it. I mean, less work.
30/41
@Listen_My_Son
A bold warning paired with a call for diplomacy—tensions are high, but the door to peace must remain open.
31/41
@LetsArmUKR
this is classic distraction. usa, iran, israel — all playing their games while ukraine fights for real. trump’s full force? more like empty threats. long-term strength comes from not bluffing and backing words with action, not tweets.
32/41
@MBJbets
Thank You Mr President
33/41
@momenaaa
He is basically saying mossad ll do another 9/11 and we have to enter the war... making ground for that
34/41
@crusade_enjoyer
We don’t want to fight you Iran.
But if you attack us you will find out why we don’t have free healthcare.
35/41
@JoergAUhr
Is he thinking about the same kind of Blitz-Peace deal Trump successfully negotiated between Russia and Ukraine? Oh, wait…
36/41
@ElegxoE
Weak and disappointing statement from Trump. Iran will not come to the table as long as it sees it’s succeeding in killing Israeli civilians . Iran has refused to talk, why don’t you just take out the nuclear facilities
37/41
@kryger109
Opening up the possibility for a false flag attack by israel on American troops.
38/41
@Humanbeing48393
I only trust bibi.
39/41
@balaganazo
Trump is a significant upgrade from "Don't."
40/41
@ChaotiX_MN
So Iran is going to FAFO from America when they cannot even handle Israel.
41/41
@RealGlobalPol
It was already reported Israel told the U.S. this would last weeks and that the U.S. approved. Why is Trump so obsessed with talking about "deals?" Nobody takes that seriously anymore
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@sentdefender
U.S. President Donald J. Trump stated in a post earlier on Truth Social that “The U.S. had nothing to do with the attack on Iran, tonight.” Adding, “If we are attacked in any way, shape or form by Iran, the full strength and might of the U.S. Armed Forces will come down on you at levels never seen before.” President Trump then states that he still believes that a deal is possible between Israel and Iran.
2/41
@SailingACH
Notice the comma. Emphasis on “tonight”
3/41
@chalavyishmael
Didn't they just launch drones at a U.S. base?
4/41
@ShaneConnor
If the US was involved, you would know. Everyone would know.
5/41
@MdKamar21
6/41
@LikeToasters
So just tonight.
7/41
@dahon8000311788
8/41
@RealLifeFootage
Yeah I have no idea why he is saying this.
9/41
@stackheaper
i think the US just needs to hide a stratofortress inside an apartment building in israel for the idf to find and utilize
10/41
@LeOneBozo
like the past 5 attempts? Iran doesn't make deals
11/41
@CCknockout
One of his “deals” eh?
12/41
@shadychronicle
He actually states “WE can can easily get a deal done”
13/41
@JamesRi34113613
.....However, we can easily get a deal done between Iran & Israel....
The floor's all yours Pres. Trump..the floor's all yours.
14/41
@EndGameWW3
Just like we can still get a deal between Ukraine and Russia...
15/41
@SamiZoila73895
I heard that before with Yemen
but eventually trump gave up.16/41
@Dr_Respect77
Just test him
17/41
@MasterHistory23
He states the US will only get involved if attacked. Understandable! But why does he inject “we” when talking about “deals” between Iran and Israel?
How did the negotiations with Iran on ceasing nuclear ambitions turn out?
18/41
@realmof_reality
Zero chance Israel goes to the table and zero chance Iran actually gives up their nuclear program. No need to waste time on that one
19/41
@TheTakePolitics
Iran has 4 options:
1. Maintain the status quo of what they are doing. Eventually Israel will run out of missile interceptors, but so too eventually will Iran run out of missiles to fire, so a war of attrition. Israel bombing routinely though will probably lead ultimately to a strategic defeat of Iran if it chooses this
2. Widen the war by attacking other Arab countries to try and put pressure on them, and by extension the US. The idea here being to get the U.S. and Arab countries to rein in Israel. The obvious risks here are the U.S. and the other Arab countries could get involved to defend themselves and strike back. It would certainly poison those relationships between Iran and their neighbors and may lead to war with their Arab neighbors in addition to the U.S.
3. Widen the war by attacking the U.S. directly. It’d put pressure on Trump but it could backfire bad if instead of being spooked, Trump is made angry and formally enters the war on the side of Israel
4. They could do what Trump says and try to negotiate
20/41
@AntiRevision
china watch and wait
21/41
@bquicker
The sweet is never as good without the sour.
22/41
@realahart
Is this enough to scare Iran you figure?
23/41
@galaxyai__
Trying to keep doors open while sounding tough as nails.
24/41
@elisio_djuric
There’s no deal anymore after what Israel did, if the US does something to Iran, China will def intervene
25/41
@HectorsCannula
He's saying (not caps this time),
FAFO
26/41
@squawk_hawk
Well they did try so. Trump is all talk.
27/41
@Beniwal_break
Why are you waiting trump
28/41
@ollobrains
elow are nine forward‑leaning ideas—part strategic analysis, part policy sketch—that move the conversation beyond President Trump’s Truth Social warning (“The U.S. had nothing to do with the attack… If we are attacked … the full strength and might of the U.S. Armed Forces will come down on you… yet a deal is still possible between Israel and Iran”). Each idea is rooted in today’s facts but tries to open unexplored diplomatic or deterrence lanes.
1 | Separate the nuclear file from the regional‑proxy file—with a dual‑track clock
What’s new? Propose two parallel negotiations that expire on different timelines:
Track A (90‑day clock) focuses only on fissile‑material caps, IAEA “snap inspections” and zero enrichment above 3.67 %.
Track B (365‑day clock) tackles Iran’s missile reach, IRGC proxy activity and Israel’s shadow strikes.
Why it matters: Trump’s public vow of overwhelming force gives Iran an incentive to code everything as existential; splitting the files lets Tehran pocket nuclear guarantees quickly while buying runway for the harder missile‑proxy bargains. Washington can sell Track A as “mission accomplished on the gravest threat,” defusing immediate escalation.
2 | Make the next negotiating venue Muscat, not Vienna
Oman’s capital has hosted quiet U.S.–Iran breakthroughs before, but it also holds back‑channels to Israel through Gulf business networks. A trilateral Muscat hub lowers political temperature: Iran can claim it never negotiated “in enemy territory,” and Israel can quietly feed technical data without televising handshake photos. Trump’s claim that a deal is still possible gains an on‑ramp that doesn’t require Tehran to walk into an American‑ or European‑run room.
3 | Test an “Off‑Ramp for Drones” CBM
Both sides fear the other’s unmanned swarms more than manned aircraft. A one‑page confidence‑building measure could read: “No drone flights within 100 km of internationally recognized borders for 30 days.” Simple ISR satellites can verify compliance. This quick win would let Trump claim deterrence success while giving Iran proof that pullback earns tangible relief. If the micro‑deal bites, expand the radius each month.
4 | Offer Iran a “Cascading Sanctions Rebate” instead of lump‑sum relief
Washington could legislate a standing escrow account: for every cumulative kilogram of 20 % enriched uranium shipped to a third‑party (e.g., Kazakhstan), a fixed tranche of frozen oil revenue is released. The novelty is reversibility: any breach re‑freezes the same tranche within 72 h. That matches Trump’s transactional style—earn each dollar—and is harder for Congress to label a “blank cheque.”
5 | Leverage Trump’s “nothing to do with the attack” line to pilot Israeli strategic opacity 2.0
Israel’s strike, followed by U.S. “plausible non‑involvement,” is de‑facto recognition that Jerusalem sometimes acts without the American trigger. Codify this in a side‑letter: the U.S. keeps distance from unilateral Israeli raids if Israel pre‑notifies Washington via a cyber‑secure “red folder.” Iran gains a clearer deterrent threshold because any truly U.S.‑tagged operation would look different (carrier movements, bomber deployments). Ambiguity shrinks, crisis predictability rises.
6 | Deploy an AI‑moderated hotline that flags launch signatures in <15 s
Current U.S.–Russia de‑escalation lines still rely on human voice. A U.S.–Iran‑Israel tri‑node hotline that auto‑pushes real‑time missile‑launch analytics (from DSP or SBIRS sensors) could reduce mistaken attributions—critical when Trump threatens “force at levels never seen.” If a projectile is clearly not U.S.‑made, the AI alert buys decision‑makers minutes to pause retaliatory orders.
7 | Invite the Gulf Cooperation Council to chair a “Nashville Accord on Nuclear Energy”
Position it ironically in Nashville during a U.S. energy summit to let Trump frame the deal as an American jobs program: U.S. SMR (small modular reactor) companies build civil reactors in the Gulf and Iran—under the same safeguards. Tehran gets kilowatts and prestige; Israel gets inspectors crawling all over any Iranian reactor site; U.S. industry gets exports. The branding—as a Southern jobs story—could neutralize domestic hawks who equate compromise with weakness.
8 | Harness blockchain oil‑swap vouchers to bypass sanction dead‑ends
Rather than lift oil sanctions wholesale, issue Iran fungible “energy infrastructure vouchers” redeemable only with approved U.S., EU or Gulf contractors for pipeline upgrades, grid stabilization, or hospital diesel reserves. The public sees zero “cash windfall,” satisfying Trump’s base; Tehran can still claim victory at home because its economy physically improves.
9 | Establish a “Middle‑East STRATCOM” wargame that includes Tehran
The Pentagon could invite mid‑career Iranian national‑defense scholars (using Swiss intermediaries) to annual non‑classified tabletop exercises on mis‑launch scenarios. Precedent: Cold‑War U.S.–Soviet DASV workgroups that quietly rewired both sides’ launch doctrines. If Trump truly wants Iran to believe in unprecedented U.S. force yet also in a path to safety, exposing Iranian officers to STRATCOM logic demystifies red lines—and shows them exactly how overwhelming a U.S. response could be.
Bottom line
Trump’s Truth Social post uses the classic deterrence triad—distance (no U.S. role), threat (unmatched force), and door‑opening (“a deal is possible”). The ideas above exploit each pillar: clarify distance via Israeli opacity protocols; sharpen threat understanding through joint STRATCOM exposure; and widen the diplomatic door with escrow‑sanctions, Muscat channels, and AI hotlines. None require trust—only verifiable, reversible steps that let every side declare a win before the next missile launches.
29/41
@kdeanc
You could just post his post and not add words to it. I mean, less work.
30/41
@Listen_My_Son
A bold warning paired with a call for diplomacy—tensions are high, but the door to peace must remain open.
31/41
@LetsArmUKR
this is classic distraction. usa, iran, israel — all playing their games while ukraine fights for real. trump’s full force? more like empty threats. long-term strength comes from not bluffing and backing words with action, not tweets.
32/41
@MBJbets
Thank You Mr President
33/41
@momenaaa
He is basically saying mossad ll do another 9/11 and we have to enter the war... making ground for that
34/41
@crusade_enjoyer
We don’t want to fight you Iran.
But if you attack us you will find out why we don’t have free healthcare.
35/41
@JoergAUhr
Is he thinking about the same kind of Blitz-Peace deal Trump successfully negotiated between Russia and Ukraine? Oh, wait…
36/41
@ElegxoE
Weak and disappointing statement from Trump. Iran will not come to the table as long as it sees it’s succeeding in killing Israeli civilians . Iran has refused to talk, why don’t you just take out the nuclear facilities
37/41
@kryger109
Opening up the possibility for a false flag attack by israel on American troops.
38/41
@Humanbeing48393
I only trust bibi.
39/41
@balaganazo
Trump is a significant upgrade from "Don't."
40/41
@ChaotiX_MN
So Iran is going to FAFO from America when they cannot even handle Israel.
41/41
@RealGlobalPol
It was already reported Israel told the U.S. this would last weeks and that the U.S. approved. Why is Trump so obsessed with talking about "deals?" Nobody takes that seriously anymore
To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
I thought that shyt was ducktales. Whole electricity went out. Coli brehs check-in!!
where they get these missiles from?
So a free country like when dictator shah ruled and locked up and killed any dissident
And elites ruled and funneled money etc .
Smh at this jew
You criticize Palestinians for voting for Hamas but now you're talking about freedom and knowing what most Iranians want
Prob Russia or China
China's size being too big is actually a disadvantage in a war..they have a billion + people to feed who no longer live in rural farms.
China is the one that doesn't want a prolonged war with anyone.
my money is on china, russia is running out of arms
i would imagine iranian women are cool with replacing the "religious police" who beat them for leaving the house without covering their hair
it's pretty embarrassing that american liberals simp for strict sharia societies that stand against everything they represent
The religious police doesn't do that anymore
Keep eating up western propaganda
Women in Iran increasingly deciding not to wear headscarves in public
NBC News chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel said women's issues are "one of the most sensitive issues and one of the issues that's really at the cultural and political heart of the regime".
remember china has the full plans of the f-35 which was leaked years ago
JamesJabdi
Superstar
So basically you are a Jewish extremist who thinks jews are above everyone else....you cant even answer the question directly because you know you on some bullshyt.....Your demonic people are cool with killing kids, raping women and bombing hospitals but lighting fire or baking something on the sabbath is where you draw the line...you make me sick
Also the real jews are black
This cac posts one short instagram clip . Iran has a population of 90 million there is no place on earth where the whole populace is rocking with their government
One minute you talk about freedoms but get upset at Lebanon and Palestine for voting for Hezbollah and Hamas
But then you're also mad at "regimes" like Iran
But ok with western stooges like Jordan
All while you stay hidden in los angeles
I really think Israel bit more they can chew at this moment .
They went and attacked a sovereign nation over some colin Powell nuclear weapons ish and prob thought the blowback would be some little drones and some 1980 type of missiles not doing any big damage. You already saw folks on the coli and the internet talking about paper tiger Iran etc.
This ain't Gaza or Lebanon . This is a big country of 90 million people
They went and attacked a sovereign nation over some colin Powell nuclear weapons ish and prob thought the blowback would be some little drones and some 1980 type of missiles not doing any big damage. You already saw folks on the coli and the internet talking about paper tiger Iran etc.
This ain't Gaza or Lebanon . This is a big country of 90 million people
China using Israel to size up America. Israel finding out those free American weapons aint shyt
We thank Israel for deporting all those black American Hebrew Israelites. Although who knows if any of this wouldve happened if they didnt. We issued them a fair warning,they refused to listen. Sadly its been downhill image wise,safety wise and as a nation as a whole
We thank Israel for deporting all those black American Hebrew Israelites. Although who knows if any of this wouldve happened if they didnt. We issued them a fair warning,they refused to listen. Sadly its been downhill image wise,safety wise and as a nation as a whole
