Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US/Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

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Wouldn't surprise me.


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Yeah bro ww3 is here
 

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Even though they knocked down many, that’s why defense vs nuclear missiles is unreliable.

That place would be a wasteland if even five of those many missiles that touched down were nuclear.

By the way, that’s with a country expecting ICBM’s heading their way.
 

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Oh boy.

Starmer says UK moving military assets to Middle East​


British Prime Minister Keir Starmer has said the United Kingdom is moving more military assets, including fighter jets, to the Middle East to provide “contingency support in the region”.
Crews began deployment preparations on Friday morning, when it was clear the situation in the region was deteriorating, a spokesperson for the prime minister said.
Further refuelling aircraft from British bases have been deployed, and additional fighter jets will be sent, the spokesperson added.
Separately, Starmer discussed the escalating Israel-Iran conflict in a call with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
Starmer’s office said in a statement that the two leaders had discussed the “gravely concerning situation in the Middle East” and agreed on the need to de-escalate.
Countries all under Isis rule. These Middle Eastern countries sold out. How you supporting the murder of your fellow Muslims. Cowards
 

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Countries all under Isis rule. These Middle Eastern countries sold out. How you supporting the murder of your fellow Muslims. Cowards

I never expect much from the Saudis, they just like kicking back and making money while doing whatever a European country tells em to do.
 
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Iran’s situation is completely different. They’re under a microscope with sanctions, cyber attacks (remember Stuxnet?), and their scientists getting assassinated. No major power is secretly helping them like China helped Pakistan. And it’s way harder to do this stuff in secret now compared to the 80s.

Iran actually has smart nuclear scientists and decent tech - they’ve enriched uranium pretty high. It’s not about brains, it’s about timing and geopolitics. Pakistan developed nukes in a different era when it was easier to fly under the radar.



The US military doesn’t have the manpower to invade Iran.
Can't remember where I read/heard it from, maybe the Afghanistan Papers book or Blowback Podcast but I wanna say in 2002, ghouls in the Pentagon ran War Game simulations over a hypothetical invasion of Iran to appease the Neo-Con war hawks in charge at the time

They were getting so upset that the simulation was showing Iran decimating US troops using the same asymmetrical tactics that basically ended up happening in Iraq during that 2005/06 era Insurgency that they changed the parameters to some absurd levels so that they could end up with a US win


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‘Unprecedented’ escalation between Israel, Iran continues​

Tohid Asadi
Reporting from Tehran, Iran
Tensions and escalations are ramping up to an unprecedented level between Iran and Israel.
Iran is now striking back after Israelis started military operations, strikes across the country targeting different, nuclear, military and civilian infrastructure inside Iran and here in the capital.
From time to time we’ve been hearing sounds of explosion, and tonight, the Iranian forces, and in particular, the IRGC announced that they have started a new round of attacks on the Israeli territories using drones and ballistic missiles. We also heard from an Iranian high ranking security official saying that Iran has prepared itself for a prolonged confrontation and that It’s going to increase its attacks on the Israeli territories.
This situation looks highly complicated, as both sides are talking about their intention to increase attacks, but how the future could unfurl is something for which we have to wait and see.
 

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This was a perfect time to fight because Russia is tied up in Ukraine :banderas:
like minds :banderas:


Look at the Ukraine War to Understand Why Israel Struck Iran
June 14, 2025, 7:00 a.m. ET
While it’s far too soon to tell whether Israel’s military strikes will cripple or even substantially set back Iran’s nuclear program, the necessity of stopping Iran’s march to a bomb is far more clear today than it was even three years ago.

Two things have happened since President Trump’s first term that alter the strategic calculus: Russia invaded Ukraine, and Hamas massacred Israeli civilians.

The first event taught the world a lesson it shouldn’t forget. When a nuclear-armed nation engages in armed aggression, the rest of the world’s options narrow considerably. If Russia didn’t possess a nuclear deterrent, it’s highly likely that Western support would have been more immediate, more intense and more decisive.

Instead, Western powers were often slow to approve new weapons transfers, and when they did provide more capable weapons, they initially placed sharp limits on their use. Western aid certainly kept Ukraine alive, but restrictions on that aid have inhibited its defense.

One could easily imagine a NATO-enforced no-fly zone, or granting Ukraine weapons and a freedom of action to use those weapons that is more similar to the freedom Israel currently enjoys. But at every step Western powers have worried that they might be pushing Russia too far. This means that aid has often been too slow and too limited to give Ukraine a viable chance of reversing Russian gains.

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Russia’s nuclear arsenal, in other words, serves as the world’s most dangerous insurance policy. It grants Russia the ability to launch aggressive military operations while also exercising at least some degree of control over the armed response.

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North Korea’s nuclear arsenal serves the same purpose. It means that Western powers can’t really contemplate the same kind of military actions that ultimately ended Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq or Muammar el-Qaddafi’s regime in Libya.

While the West might look at both interventions as cautionary tales (they unleashed considerable disorder), dictators look and see something else: a gruesome end to despotic regimes, an end they desperately want to avoid for themselves.

Now, imagine Iran with even a modest nuclear arsenal. Even if it didn’t try to obliterate Israeli cities, it could use its arsenal to grant it a freedom of action in conventional war that it currently lacks. Like Russia, it could be relentlessly aggressive at the same time that its nuclear weapons could maintain the regime, even in the face of military defeat. They would constrain Israel’s ability to defend itself.

At the same time, Israel is living with the reality since Oct. 7, 2023, that its enemies will directly target civilians, massacre them on video and celebrate their deaths. Is there a sovereign nation on the planet that would then permit its chief adversary — the primary military backer of its terrorist enemies — to possess the ultimate weapon of mass destruction if it believes it can do so at a reasonable military cost?

In fact, Israel has a much better window of opportunity to stop Iran’s race to a bomb than either India or Pakistan had to stop each other’s nuclear program — or than the United States and South Korea had to stop North Korea. Each of those nations possessed enormous, intact conventional forces that would have made any military intervention extraordinarily costly.

Iran’s military capabilities, by contrast, have been sharply degraded. It still retains the ability to strike Israel with its missiles (it hit Tel Aviv on Friday, causing some damage), but Israel has a capable missile defense. Its proxies in Gaza, Lebanon and Syria have suffered a series of catastrophic military defeats. And previous attacks from Israel damaged Iran’s air defenses. Iran is weaker than it’s been in years.

None of these arguments mean that Israel will prevail or that the strikes will prove effective or wise in the long term. We have to wait on the results of the conflict to understand that. But for now the combination of Iran’s weakness and the catastrophic consequences of an Iranian bomb mean that Israel’s strikes are both more justifiable — and more likely to succeed — than at any time in the recent past.
 
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