Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! Israel violates ceasefire. Trump says stop it. Iran laughs. Ceasefire in effect.

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I'm gonna stop reading right here.

You really believe this? :laff:

Alrighty broski, gonna just throw you on ignore.

Dude just said the nation's that created Israel didn't support Israel :laff:

usa and British literally gave them weapons

And France gave them all their serial stuff
 

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I'm gonna stop reading right here.

You really believe this? :laff:

Alrighty broski, gonna just throw you on ignore.

Dude just said the nation's that created Israel didn't support Israel :laff:
Breh looked it up, found out he was wrong, and decided to put me on ignore.

:mjlol:


No you retard, European's hated jews, they created Israel to get rid of them. Only France helped Israel for the first 20 years.

Israel didn't get major support from the west until the 70s.
 

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This one hurts. America could have done 10 Belt and Road initiatives for the cost of Afghanistan.

That means America wasted trillions that could have electrified the country, commissioned hundreds of infrastructure projects, and more. TEN TIMES OVER.

But we went to a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, killed thousands of innocent people, and replaced the Taliban with the Taliban.



She definitely hit it home. China gets to build quietly without much fuss. Focusing on smaller but more impactful relationships.

Meanwhile, we all grew up with saber rattling thinking that is the ONLY way to do things. While trying to be the World's police.

Our Counter intelligence had to be fukking excellent because hot damn that is how you make a lot of enemies.

So when you say you don't believe your own three letter agencies :wow:
 

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9 min ago

Iran would have "no choice but to retaliate" if US joins Israeli attacks, deputy foreign minister says​

From CNN’s Amanpour team and Catherine Nicholls
If the US decides to join Israel in attacking Iran, Tehran would have “no choice” but to retaliate, Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Majid Takht Ravanchi told CNN.

“If the Americans decide to get involved militarily, we have no choice but to retaliate wherever we find the targets necessary to be acted upon,” Ravanchi said in an interview with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour. “That is clear and simple. Because we are acting in self-defense.”

Ravanchi also said that his country’s leadership now doubts “the sincerity of the Americans” given the timing of Israel’s first attack.

“Two days before the next round started, the aggression took place. So this is a betrayal of diplomacy. This is the betrayal of our trust to Americans,” he said, referring to nuclear deal talks that were underway with the US. “We should be the ones who should criticize the way that we were treated by the Americans, not vice versa.”

No outreach from Tehran: According to the deputy foreign minister, Tehran has not reached out to the US or Israel to try to resume nuclear talks since hostilities erupted.

“We are not reaching out to anybody,” he said. “We are defending ourselves. Although we have always promoted diplomacy … we cannot negotiate under the threats. We cannot negotiate while our people are under bombardment every day. So we are not begging for anything, we are just defending ourselves.”

He also argued that the attack had rallied Iranians around their government.

“Now there is a very strong cohesion within the Iranian society to resist aggression, to resist foreign interference in our domestic affairs,” Ravanchi said.

Israeli officials have been urging Iranian civilians to rise up against the current government, arguing that now is the time for regime change with leaders in Tehran “weakened” by the conflict.
 

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15 min ago

Israeli military detects missiles launched from Iran

From Tamar Michaelis and Hira Humayun
Israel’s military said it identified missiles launched from Iran a short while ago and that Israeli defense systems are working to “intercept the threat.”

In a statement the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) instructed the public to go into a protected space and stay there until further notice. The military said people can only leave the protected space after an “explicit directive.”
 

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Developing

Iranian government planes land in Oman: Flight-tracking data​


Navigational data verified by Al Jazeera shows two planes registered with Iran’s government have landed in Oman’s capital.
A third plane registered with Iran’s privately owned Meraj Airlines also landed in Muscat, flight-tracking data reveals.
Iran’s government has not released details on any official trip to Oman, which served as a mediator in US-Iran nuclear negotiations.
 

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Honestly, looking at the logistics: Israel is 2000km away from the closest point to Iran. That’s only going one way.

The F-35 has a max range of 2000km (that may be with external tanks which hinders its stealth), that’s with no combat and they only have 40 of them. Each F-35 will need to refuel in air to make that round trip, that’s basically for sure.

Logistically, that’s a tough run with a lot of refueling and constant reloading. Not to mention you can’t quickly deploy them so fast back-to-back, you need thorough maintenance because you don’t want to crash one near enemy territory. Those maintenance crews are additionally going to be exhausted, after a single week. It’s not a car, those things need a monstrous amount of inspection, diagnostics, checking it’s coating thoroughly, etc. It’s 140+ hours of labor per crew for a single F-35 flying that mission. Longer if their air base has been attacked.

Not quite sure I buy the “air superiority over the region” claim (at least not over Iran) or if it really even means that much at this point because most time is spent making the flight. I’m sure any refueling planes can additionally be targeted because they’re not stealthy.

Running this on A.I, the rating of difficulty it gives these missions is a solid 8.5-9.5/10 for the IAF and that includes with F-35’s. This is nowhere like Ukraine and Russia distance. They got to fly over four countries to strike a target in Iran, then fly all the way back.

I don’t know why more people aren’t bringing that up. It may seem like a straight-forward mission, but implementation and logistics are ugly af.
 
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Those scary ass Arabs have never done that. Historically they've never coordinated an attack together to take out Israel. It's always 1 or 2 groups attacking and others may or may not join.


They all hate each other too much to seriously get together and come up with a realistic plan of attack. Half of those cowards help Israel.

A number of Arab states coordinated attacks in 1948. I don't think your read on West Asian history is correct.

The charge of cowardice is interesting. I agree to an extent. But, many of these states are puppet states controlled by the United States.

One thing that Americans never understand or want to acknowledge is how much their country is an evil empire that's pulling the strings
:mjlol:
 
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