Official Sharife Cooper thread. Steal of the Draft?

Sharife Cooper is.....

  • Steal of the draft

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  • Future G leaguer

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Was there any other reason besides size and shot that he fell so much? Sounds like hes been a prolific player everywhere he’s played. Hawks seem like a weird fit because it he’ll never start or close a game with them because of fit with Trae but they got him at 48 so why not take BPA
 

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allen iverson was literally the quickest player in the nba for a decade. sharife has some explosiveness but he's not allen iverson. not by a long shot. he is a better natural playmaker for others though.
as far as explosion, ja morant is closer to whatever allen iverson was at that age
if sharife was 6'5 he would have went top 10. his current skillset doesnt overwhelm his stature.
not to compare him to trae, but you need extremely high bbiq and skills to get drafted where trae did at that size....sharife shouldnt have fell that far but he fell for a few reasons
Sharife Cooper College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Allen Iverson College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Look at their freshman numbers.

Coop's first step is insane and he's impossible to keep out of the lane. I would say, it's on the same level with Trae who's impossible to keep out of the lane but Coop is stronger and he can body up with bigs twice his size. Coop is special breh.

As far as explosiveness, I would say Ja is ahead of all of them including AI but Ja can't draw contact like Coop and AI can. No one can, only Trae comes close.

You vastly underrating Coop. A lot of people are but they will learn, they always do.

He fell for extremely stupid reasons. The biggest one is teams hate handing the keys to young PGs. Trae was lucky, he was drafted in the top 5. The shooting can be fixed. The size isn't even that big of a deal. There is no reason a 20/8 college PG in one of the best conferences with no real shooters around him should have fallen out of the top 15. Teams always learn the hard way.
 

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Was there any other reason besides size and shot that he fell so much? Sounds like hes been a prolific player everywhere he’s played. Hawks seem like a weird fit because it he’ll never start or close a game with them because of fit with Trae but they got him at 48 so why not take BPA
Teams HATE handing the keys to the team to young PGs. That said, this draft was crazy talented, legit studs in the 2nd round that should be top 10 picks in last year's draft. Butler, McBride, and Cooper are all better than Cole Anthony by a significant margin and I like Cole but he's barely tier 4 if he was in this class. He's right there with Ty Jerome.
 

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It has nothing to do with you personally but the Op stays in our threads trying to hype Sharife over our McBride.

nope that’s how you choose to take it.

I said Sharife should’ve been drafted by the Knicks on draft night. And wanted him to go to the Knicks way before

this is assuming Knicks were looking for more PG help and before they had Kemba

It is just a smart decision for any team in need of a PG seeing how Cooper was arguably the best playmaker in the draft

personally Ive been a fan of Cooper as a player/person so why not root for him. I like the underdog :blessed:





Looks like he’s gonna be a good edition to Atlanta ESPECIALLY as a 2nd round pick

but what do I know? :yeshrug:

Some people just hate to see me be right:beli:. But if Knicks did draft Cooper and he was playing like this all the Knicks fans would be on the bandwagon :banderas:

For the record I already admitted McBride was a nice pick for Knicks :steviej:
 

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Sharife Cooper College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Allen Iverson College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Look at their freshman numbers.

Coop's first step is insane and he's impossible to keep out of the lane. I would say, it's on the same level with Trae who's impossible to keep out of the lane but Coop is stronger and he can body up with bigs twice his size. Coop is special breh.

As far as explosiveness, I would say Ja is ahead of all of them including AI but Ja can't draw contact like Coop and AI can. No one can, only Trae comes close.

You vastly underrating Coop. A lot of people are but they will learn, they always do.

He fell for extremely stupid reasons. The biggest one is teams hate handing the keys to young PGs. Trae was lucky, he was drafted in the top 5. The shooting can be fixed. The size isn't even that big of a deal. There is no reason a 20/8 college PG in one of the best conferences with no real shooters around him should have fallen out of the top 15. Teams always learn the hard way.
Comparing numbers from the 90s to college ball now is ridiculous. The spacing is better now, they actually used traditional centers back then and the pacing was MUCH slower than it is now. Sharife beats his man and can’t finish cause he isn’t that type of athlete. He doesn’t have a consistent floater in his bag yet so his shot gets swatted at the rim more often with any pressure put on him. Rookie year Allen Iverson was dunking ON nikkas. He had the explosiveness to finish over or around traditional bigs but toned that down as he got injured after his first few years throwing his body at legit rim protectors. They aren’t the same level of athlete cause AI would do a simple cross and be gone.... sharife has more finesse and deceptiveness in his dribble helping his beat his man on top of his nice quickness. I think sharife is nice but he several holes in his game that he’ll work through in time and reps :hubie:
 

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Comparing numbers from the 90s to college ball now is ridiculous. The spacing is better now, they actually used traditional centers back then and the pacing was MUCH slower than it is now. Sharife beats his man and can’t finish cause he isn’t that type of athlete. He doesn’t have a consistent floater in his bag yet so his shot gets swatted at the rim more often with any pressure put on him. Rookie year Allen Iverson was dunking ON nikkas. He had the explosiveness to finish over or around traditional bigs but toned that down as he got injured after his first few years throwing his body at legit rim protectors. They aren’t the same level of athlete cause AI would do a simple cross and be gone.... sharife has more finesse and deceptiveness in his dribble helping his beat his man on top of his nice quickness. I think sharife is nice but he several holes in his game that he’ll work through in time and reps :hubie:
Breh, their team stats are available as well. Auburn scored two more PPG than Georgetown with AI as a freshman and GT was 124th in points scored. College Basketball has never functioned like the NBA. To bring up shyt like pace and spacing tells me you don't watch much college basketball. One of the things I hate about CBK is it still functions similar to how it did in the 90s while the NBA is a massively different sport compared to how it was in the 90s.

1994-95 Georgetown Hoyas Roster and Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

2020-21 Auburn Tigers Roster and Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Spacing is better for some teams but is worse today for others. Have you seen Auburn or OK State play? Spacing is pure garbage for those teams this recent season.

Breh, you doing too much right now. We talking about data. The end result is the end result.
 
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Breh, their team stats are available as well. Auburn scored two more PPG than Georgetown with AI as a freshman and GT was 124th in points scored. College Basketball has never functioned like the NBA. To bring up shyt like pace and spacing tells me you don't watch much college basketball. One of the things I hate about CBK is it still functions similar to how it did in the 90s while the NBA is a massively different sport compared to how it was in the 90s.

1994-95 Georgetown Hoyas Roster and Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

2020-21 Auburn Tigers Roster and Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Spacing is better for some teams but is worse today for others. Have you seen Auburn or OK State play? Spacing is pure garbage for those teams this recent season.

Breh, you doing too much right now. We talking about data. The end result is the end result.
fam college hoops isnt played the same way. the difference isnt as stark as the nba but it simply isnt the same game as 90s.
the game was more inside out rather than all the way guard oriented with 5s spacing the court picking and popping...letting ball handlers go down hill
you pulling raw numbers as if these teams came to these the results in the exact same way is bullshyt.
:mjlol: a player dropping 20 and 8 in 1995 is looked at completely different than in 2021
he dropped for a reason, he's not a bum, relax with these proclamations I get it he's a hometown kid.
 
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He’s had some tough finishes in the paint too :ehh:
Double double and shooting 50% from the field
 

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no one said that. you said generational floor general.
all the generational floor generals never come to the league as a turnover machine at every level they've played at(chris paul for example)
the boy averaging like 6 turnovers a game right now lol
trae young is an exception to me cause his oklahoma team was straight dog shyt outside of him and he still put up better numbers than sharife across the board including efficiency.
The two terms are used interchangeably.
I didn’t say he was one currently, I said he can be one. He’s coming in with substantially less games and development than Chris Paul, Rondo, Magic, etc. Dude didn’t even get to practice for the first 3 months of the college season. He played on a team with consistently bad spacing to contextualize that efficiency, although him not having a floater, mid range or 3 definitely hurt that too. Anyone acting like someone with the ball placement and vision that he does can’t become a top tier general (off of three summer league games, esp) is insane.
 

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Sharife Cooper College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Allen Iverson College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Look at their freshman numbers.

Coop's first step is insane and he's impossible to keep out of the lane. I would say, it's on the same level with Trae who's impossible to keep out of the lane but Coop is stronger and he can body up with bigs twice his size. Coop is special breh.

As far as explosiveness, I would say Ja is ahead of all of them including AI but Ja can't draw contact like Coop and AI can. No one can, only Trae comes close.

You vastly underrating Coop. A lot of people are but they will learn, they always do.

He fell for extremely stupid reasons. The biggest one is teams hate handing the keys to young PGs. Trae was lucky, he was drafted in the top 5. The shooting can be fixed. The size isn't even that big of a deal. There is no reason a 20/8 college PG in one of the best conferences with no real shooters around him should have fallen out of the top 15. Teams always learn the hard way.
shooting can be fixed :dahell:
 

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fam college hoops isnt played the same way. the difference isnt as stark as the nba but it simply isnt the same game as 90s.
the game was more inside out rather than all the way guard oriented with 5s spacing the court picking and popping...letting ball handlers go down hill
you pulling raw numbers as if these teams came to these the results in the exact same way is bullshyt.
:mjlol: a player dropping 20 and 8 in 1995 is looked at completely different than in 2021
he dropped for a reason, he's not a bum, relax with these proclamations I get it he's a hometown kid.
Breh, you act as if Loyola Marymount didn't exist or UNLV didn't exist. You talk like every college just plays the same style. College has always been completely different from the NBA and you still got teams who are post dominate in today's game. Duke and Wisconsin went to the championship game as post teams. Most of the UNC teams were post teams. You would have a point if you were talking about Gonzaga or Villanova but Auburn is a shyt-spacing team with hardly any shooters.

Per Game
Totals
G MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Team
27 40.4 26.3 60.3 .437 17.3 32.5 .531 9.1 27.8 .326 15.4 21.8 .708 12.9 26.5 39.4 14.8 6.2 6.0 16.2 17.9 77.2
Rank 118th 80th 194th 229th 300th 64th 37th 16th 231st 35th 35th 182nd 13th 102nd 24th 73rd 197th 1st 16th 130th 45th
Opponent 27 40.4 27.7 63.3 .438 20.4 40.8 .499 7.3 22.4 .327 13.7 20.0 .685 12.2 24.1 36.3 12.6 8.7 3.7 13.7 19.8 76.4
Rank 309th 326th 200th 302nd 325th 189th 178th 216th 117th 231st 251st 63rd 336th 108th 244th 275th 342nd 289th 201st 327th 301st
Per Game
Totals
G MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Team
27 40.4 26.3 60.3 .437 17.3 32.5 .531 9.1 27.8 .326 15.4 21.8 .708 12.9 26.5 39.4 14.8 6.2 6.0 16.2 17.9 77.2
Rank 118th 80th 194th 229th 300th 64th 37th 16th 231st 35th 35th 182nd 13th 102nd 24th 73rd 197th 1st 16th 130th 45th
Opponent 27 40.4 27.7 63.3 .438 20.4 40.8 .499 7.3 22.4 .327 13.7 20.0 .685 12.2 24.1 36.3 12.6 8.7 3.7 13.7 19.8 76.4
Rank 309th 326th 200th 302nd 325th 189th 178th 216th 117th 231st 251st 63rd 336th 108th 244th 275th 342nd 289th 201st 327th 301st

No, it's not, a freshman is a freshman. You can keep arguing till your face turns blue but facts are facts. No freshman guard has produced like him outside of Iverson and Young and his metrics on offensive are identical to Iverson outside of FT shooting and playmaking which favor Cooper.

shooting can be fixed :dahell:
Yes, it can be especially when you are a 82.5% FT shooter with tremendous touch.
 
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