Official Thread: El Paso and Dayton mass shootings; 8/9 2 mass shootings prevented

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“If you want intelligence to be good on the current wave of domestic terrorism — what people call right-wing extremism, Neo-Nazi extremism — I don’t think people realize how tough that target is..."


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Ex-FBI official says right-wing extremism one of the biggest security challenges for 2020
A former FBI intelligence officer said Thursday that combating right-wing extremism and white nationalism poses a serious challenge for security officials going into 2020.

 

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As public spaces and places of worship have become a target for mass shooters, churches are preparing by arming and training their congregation in threat assessment, first aid and other first-response techniques in the event of a potential mass shooting situation.


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Churches are arming and training congregants in response to mass shootings: report
The Fellowship of the Parks church in Fort Worth, Texas, and its sister campuses, for example, have partnered with the local company Sheepdog Defense Group to train volunteers at the church to respond to shootings.

 

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JUST IN: House Republicans recently circulated a memo with talking points on gun violence that seeks to pivot away from questions about their resistance to more gun restrictions and the influence of white nationalism in the wake of two deadly mass shootings and instead focus on “violence from the left.”


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House Republicans circulate memo on how to deflect gun questions after shootings to 'violence from the left'
A memo by Rep. Richard Hudson (R-N.C.) dated Aug. 6 and circulated by the House Republican Conference to rank-and-file members offers Republicans suggestions for how to respond to questions about their resistance to more gun restrictions.

 

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BREAKING: Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, has introduced legislation to make domestic terrorism a federal crime in the aftermath of several deadly mass shootings across the country in recent months.


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Schiff introduces bill to make domestic terrorism a federal crime after mass shootings
Schiff said the legislation was sparked by the recent mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, as well as attacks at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh and the Emanuel African Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C.

 

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Assault weapons ban picks up steam in Congress

 

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Dayton Gunman Shot 26 People in 32 Seconds, Police Timeline Reveals
Dayton Gunman Shot 26 People in 32 Seconds, Police Timeline Reveals

 

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@Rhakim some people merely want to stay alive. Other people don't want to be the victim at all.

 

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@Rhakim some people merely want to stay alive. Other people don't want to be the victim at all.

Since damn near every person who got killed was "just trying to stay alive", how well is that strategy working out?

if people would get it in their heads to charge immediately then we'd ALL have a better chance of staying alive. The is some game strategy shyt. You can either all agree on the strategy where damn near everyone lives, or you can all agree on the chicken-shyt strategy where dozens of people die.

Some of y'all are arguing for the chicken-shyt strategy, even though WAY more people die, because....?

 

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Since damn near every person who got killed was "just trying to stay alive", how well is that strategy working out?

if people would get it in their heads to charge immediately then we'd ALL have a better chance of staying alive. The is some game strategy shyt. You can either all agree on the strategy where damn near everyone lives, or you can all agree on the chicken-shyt strategy where dozens of people die.

Some of y'all are arguing for the chicken-shyt strategy, even though WAY more people die, because....?

I can factually say I'm alive today because I had a gun on me.

Get it how you live though.

Edit: if you agree that all it takes is everyone rushing the threat how are you arguing that being more prepared decreases your odds?

 

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But to be clear, if you believe a group is armed and at war with you and don't believe the government will save you, you're food.


@DEAD7... Speak on it if you've ever seen combat.

 

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I can factually say I'm alive today because I had a gun on me.

Get it how you live though.

You can't actually factually say that, and you should know that. You didn't die before you pulled the gun, how can you know you were going to die after? You assume you can predict the future, and not only that but you assume you can predict it while also going against not just every statistic and study, but even going against your own personal experience.

But to be clear, if you believe a group is armed and at war with you and don't believe the government will save you, you're food.

So the early Christians were just food for the Romans, right?

MLK and the rest of the CRM were food against the KKK?

The Philippines People Power movement, when Marcos sent the entire Filipino army at them...they were food too, right?

Poland's Solidarity movement was food against the USSR?

Andre Trocme was food against the Nazis? Or any of the other resisters?

You're just spewing the pro-violence narrative that America has spun since its foundation. I've pointed out repeatedly that nonviolence works BETTER than violence at any scale of conflict, from personal interaction to mass shootings to all-out revolution. That's been shown statistically over and over again. But we have cartoons, superhero movies, and national folklore to keep feeding the mantra that violence will solve everything.


Hey, how did having guns work for Ruby Ridge? For Waco? That guy who pulled his piece in the Oregon occupation, where is he buried now? How did being armed work out for Fred and Mark, or Huey, or Zayd or the rest of the Black Panthers?

If the White Supremacists pull another Oklahoma City, or maybe they'll try to replicate a 9/11, or maybe copy that guy in the Las Vegas massacre, exactly what will your gun do for you there?

 

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You can't actually factually say that, and you should know that. You didn't die before you pulled the gun, how can you know you were going to die after? You assume you can predict the future, and not only that but you assume you can predict it while also going against not just every statistic and study, but even going against your own personal experience.

I can say it.

So shut the fukk up because you don't actually know what you're talking about. You may have grew up in tough place, but you're a dweeb and you're so far removed from that you shouldn't even speak on it.


Did you really cite the early Christians and the romans? Jesus would like to speak with you.

 

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We live in a country where black people are only free from slavery because we went to war over it and won. @Rhakim enjoy this neg.

 

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The holocaust happened because Jewish people weren't non violent enough. And it only ended when they reached peak non violence.

 

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They're being slaughtered because they aren't effectively communicating