Official Trade War(s) Thread

[Futuristic Eskimo]

Remove yourself from a strategic trade agreement designed to limit China's ascent and then attack China on trade solo anyone defending this buffoon should be lobotomized. He fukks it up spectacularly even when he's right.

 

[DEAD7]

You don’t seem to want to understand that who whoever did what first doesn’t matter

How did china fux anyone over when it was american companies who moved to china for its cheap manufacturing .

Y’all really have no clue about China’s trade fukkery pre-trump...


Carry on.

 

[Strapped]

This sounds like coppers screaming comply while beating you with a billy club , is it do as i say or else while being peofiled

 

[Pressure]

30bn farmer bailout.

 

[DEAD7]

None of this is why we have 25 percent tarrifs on Chinese goods.

Hes repeatedly echoed he wants to cut the trade deficit with China... a country he has accused of unfair trade practices since before he became president...
Explain why its so difficult for progressives to point the finger at China even when they are guilty? I assume its Trump hate but i could be wrong.
the responses dont even deny this fact they are basically just "no! fukk trump!"
shyts wild.

 

[Pressure]

Hes repeatedly echoed He wants to cut the trade deficit with China... a country he has accused of unfair trade practices since before he became president...
Explain why its so difficult for progressives to point the finger at China even when they are guilty? I assume its Trump hate but i could be wrong.
the responses dont even deny the facts they are basically just "no! fukk trump!"
shyts wild.

But Trump has increased the trade deficit with China.

His tarrifs have cost us to spend 30bn on farm bailouts (more than his walm )

Pulling out of the TPP prior to negotians removed most of his leverage.

Trump is getting criticism from the media because he says he was the best person to negotiate these deals and by all standards he's failing.

American businesses knew what they were getting into with China but still flock to set up shop there. :royumad1:


But let's keep it simple, has Trump's numerous tarrifs and tarrifs threats led to a change in china's behavior? :keefdontlike:

He's so inept and unpopular most countries have figured it's best to wait him out:MJhurt:

 

[Json]

Hes repeatedly echoed he wants to cut the trade deficit with China... a country he has accused of unfair trade practices since before he became president...
Explain why its so difficult for progressives to point the finger at China even when they are guilty? I assume its Trump hate but i could be wrong.
the responses dont even deny the facts they are basically just "no! fukk trump!"
shyts wild.

You seem to want people to give Trump credit for taking on China but not the simple fact he has no plan. It’s freaking obvious Trump thinks he can undo twenty plus years of global dynamics in four years with tariffs??

You wouldn’t root for an underdog boxer fighting a cheating heavyweight champion if the underdog was drunk and swinging wildly with no technique and ignoring his coach.

Like everything else with Trump, if he didn’t think he was the most knowledgeable on every subject, he probably wouldn’t be out their on his own swinging wildly.

 

[DEAD7]

You seem to want people to give Trump credit for taking on China but not the simple fact he has no plan.

False, I want China's trade fukkery condemned and the trade war to accurately reflect China's role specifically their forced technology transfer, state-directed acquisition of sensitive technology, the chinese govt. support for cyber intrusions into United States computer networks to gain access to valuable business information, and a host of discriminatory non-tariff barriers.
I want the news to accurately report and inform the citizenry of this aggression by China.

I've already stated trumps a moron and tariffs are a terrible idea... but to label it Trumps trade war is disingenuous. China is unquestionably the antagonist/villain here.
Unlike leftist i dont see pinning the fukkery on China as support for tariffs or Trump. Its simply the truth... nothing Trump tweets or does changes that.

But if the truth doesnt shyt on Trump... its fukk the truth around here.

 

[Json]

False, I want China's trade fukkery condemned and the trade war to accurately reflect China's role specifically their forced technology transfer, state-directed acquisition of sensitive technology, the chinese govt. support for cyber intrusions into United States computer networks to gain access to valuable business information, and a host of discriminatory non-tariff barriers.
I want the news to accurately report and inform the citizenry of this aggression by China.

Are you seriously saying Trump should be the vanguard for calling out state sponsored cyber intrusions and business hacking? After everything we've learned about his 2016 election.

Trump literally asked Russia to hack into a candidates elections systems? Trump's buddies in Saudi Arabia hacked Bezos and got no pushback. You really don't see a problem with asking people to listen to a man who would use those same techniques to enrich and empower himself and his friends?

So the accurate full picture is China is doing something that Trump let's his buddies do without question.

China is unquestionably the antagonist/villain here.

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That right there is your problem. To label one side a villain is to label the other side a hero or cast them as having virtue in action. Which we all know Trump doesn't. People aren't being anti-Trump. Trump is being Trump. We've all seen his playbook. You can't acknowledge Trump's behavior always comes from a place of grandstanding for himself then say his grossly misguided use of tariffs is stupid....but China.

The whole Kim K and Trump didn't lead to meaningful dialogue about our prison system. Cause we all know Trump is A)being paid by the prison lobby locking up blacks and Latinos. B) Having headlines of doing something nice was all he was looking for.

 

[Pressure]

Be mad that people aren't championing a moron to fix issues, blue text brehs. :Obeezyha:

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The worst part is that he JUST renegotiated NAFTA six months ago. So now every country in the world looking at him like, "Why should we cut a deal with this buffoon when he might throw the deal out the window before the ink is dry?"

PBS NewsHour
The White House did not outline specific steps Mexico would have to take to avoid the tariffs, saying it will instead be up to “our discretion.”

"Mexico is good when we say they're good."

This may literally be the worst-conceived trade war in history. England taxing tea wasn't even this badly planned.

 

[killacal]

Pull up your post about the Chinese trade deficit before trump mentioned it

I'll wait

 

[DEAD7]

Are you seriously saying Trump should be the vanguard for calling out state sponsored cyber intrusions and business hacking? After everything we've learned about his 2016 election.

No I’m saying this is China’s trade war...
I haven’t praised trump once... nor have I suggested he is going about holding them accountable the right/best way.
They were engaged in these practices when Obama was president... why are you bringing up what trump has done?


Trump hate is wild


What part of I want the media to accurately report chinas role is so infuriating?

 

[Cynic]

Bullshyt.
Trump ran on then pulled us out of the TPP.

These tarrifs are a direct result of his negotiating strategy.

Youre really in here trying to reinvent history.

TPP was trash breh. Absolute garbo ... It's about one of the only things he got right

 

[DEAD7]

Can’t condemn the criminals/antagonist without it in some way praising Trump, so we will just ignore what they’ve done and put it on Trump... where it belongs.

#wattba