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It’s a lose/lose situation for Trump. If Trump stays out of it and Israel gets fukked by Iran then he’ll be seen as a coward by the evangelical portion of his base. if he goes to war he’ll be seen as bush 2.0 and turn off independents and the anti war portion of MAGA.

It’s actually prudent for Democrats to allow Trump to self implode especially when they have no power to block anything

The "anti-war" portion of MAGA is a joke. They might whine a little bit, but when it comes time to vote, they will come home.

Everything takes a backseat to "owning the libs" and making random minorities suffer.
 

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The "anti-war" portion of MAGA is a joke. They might whine a little bit, but when it comes time to vote, they will come home.

Everything takes a backseat to "owning the libs" and making random minorities suffer.
They may want to make life hell for minorities in this country, disagree with countless basic civil rights and even believe we don’t have the right to exist, but they are hitting the nail on the head when it comes to this :salute: let the normalization, re branding and glaze continue :dame:
 

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They may want to make life hell for minorities in this country, disagree with countless basic civil rights and even believe we don’t have the right to exist, but they are hitting the nail on the head when it comes to this :salute: let the normalization, re branding and glaze continue :dame:

I'm telling you, if "anti-war MAGA" got into time machine and went back to the year 2004 and had to vote in the election, 99.9999% of them would vote for Bush.
 
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The Democrats can't save/stop Trump from whatever decision he takes anyway. They don't have the cards. What they can do is make sure they're correctly positioned to get credit for being a suitable, legitimate alternative. Sitting on your hands doesn't do that. It actually blunts the blowback Trump will receive because he can turn around and say "well everyone agreed with me, the Democrats would have done the same thing". As the opposition party, it is the job of the Democrats to showcase why they would be the better choice next time power is up for democratic assignment. That means letting people know why the incumbent party is doing a shytty job, and how you would do a better job. Democrats are just disappearing and assuming people will fill the anti-Trump space with the Democratic ghost instead of the couch, which is a fatal assumption.
There is no alternative yet.

Assuming Trump doesn’t press the third term issue, Republicans can throw him under the bus if they need to. Obama was able to beat Hilary in part cause he had no yes vote on Iraq and his stated position was against the war. Hilary, McCain, and Kerry had to justify their votes.

Except for Republicans who have no shot at running are pumping their chest in support. Everyone else know as far as dropping a bomb Trump will do whatever he wants before needing Congress‘ approval.

What sides will develop after a bombing about what to do have yet to be decided. It would be foolish to be full-throated at this point except to let Americans know why this is a bad idea.
 

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Trump is going to bomb Iran tonight

Steve Bannon says he’s doing a special show at 4 pm.

Seymour Hersh was right












I don’t think WW3 will happen among nations, but instead be a global terrorism campaign. Global North Nations will become more fascist as a result of realizing trillions over the last 20 years was wasted by not going “harder” and this will lead to internal resistance.

May be crazy, but this is what I see. I don't know what it will look like tho.
 

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I don’t think WW3 will happen among nations, but instead be a global terrorism campaign. Global North Nations will become more fascist as a result of realizing trillions over the last 20 years was wasted by not going “harder” and this will lead to internal resistance.

May be crazy, but this is what I see. I don't know what it will look like tho.

I think that Israel and the US (and maybe some other Western countries) want regime change in Iran. However, I am not sure how this will come about. I don't think the US has the same appetite for a ground invasion as it did in the case of Iraq in 2003. I fear that Trump could decide to use a nuke. Seriously.
 
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I don’t think WW3 will happen among nations, but instead be a global terrorism campaign. Global North Nations will become more fascist as a result of realizing trillions over the last 20 years was wasted by not going “harder” and this will lead to internal resistance.

May be crazy, but this is what I see. I don't know what it will look like tho.

I think that Israel and the US (and maybe some other Western countries) want regime change in Iran. However, I am not sure how this will come about. I don't think the US has the same appetite for a ground invasion as it did in the case of Iraq in 2023. I fear that Trump could decide to use a nuke. Seriously.
I doubt Trump uses a nuke, but anything is possible with him.. I do think it's inevitable that the US starts bombing Iran. As far the global terrorism campaign, not only do I see that happening, I see a domestic version of that happening here in the US. That will be our next civil war
 

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I think that Israel and the US (and maybe some other Western countries) want regime change in Iran. However, I am not sure how this will come about. I don't think the US has the same appetite for a ground invasion as it did in the case of Iraq in 2023. I fear that Trump could decide to use a nuke. Seriously.
That’s why I said what I said.
 

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I doubt Trump uses a nuke, but anything is possible with him.. I do think it's inevitable that the US starts bombing Iran. As far the global terrorism campaign, not only do I see that happening, I see a domestic version of that happening here in the US. That will be our next civil war

The domestic version has already started (look at what ICE has been doing). However, I don't know if it will be like a "civil war" because I think it will be very one-sided.

Regarding the nuke, I think they might use one on a military target with minimal civilian casualties to try to demonstrate how "serious" they are and get the Iranian regime to unconditionally surrender.
 

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The domestic version has already started (look at what ICE has been doing). However, I don't know if it will be like a "civil war" because I think it will be very one-sided.

Regarding the nuke, I think they might use one on a military target with minimal civilian casualties to try to demonstrate how "serious" they are and get the Iranian regime to unconditionally surrender.
I don’t see a civil war either because of it being one sided. That’s why a terror campaign makes more sense to me.
 
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