Official War With Iran Thread

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@42 Monks not sure if this was what you were getting at



iran pr is objectively hilarious but the thing is, all the shyt they're promising or boasting about doing - it would've been done already if they had the capability to do it

instead of targeting the ships that are coming for them, they're back to harassing anything civilian and soft and its just going to further isolate what's left of that gov
 

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iran pr is objectively hilarious but the thing is, all the shyt they're promising or boasting about doing - it would've been done already if they had the capability to do it

instead of targeting the ships that are coming for them, they're back to harassing anything civilian and soft and its just going to further isolate what's left of that gov
Iran who has been affected by U.S. foreign policy don’t have a choice anymore. You can’t keep attacking countries, destabilizing governments, and imposing sanctions without expecting those nations to eventually defend themselves. Even the countries that host U.S. military bases become complicit simply by allowing those operations to continue from their soil.If retaliatory attacks or strikes on soft targets occur, the responsibility ultimately falls on the United States for creating the conditions that make blowback inevitable. This is how real extremist movements and religious fundamentalism take root, through decades of foreign intervention, civilian casualties, and the perception that powerful nations act with impunity. Iran is a clear example of this dynamic. Despite the way it is portrayed in American political rhetoric, Iran has actually been far more restrained and far more internally focused than the United States in terms of foreign military action. When you compare the scale of interventions, regime‑change operations, and overseas conflicts, the contrast becomes very expansive. The U.S. has spent decades projecting military power across the world, while Iran’s actions though controversial are far more limited in scope and focused on one region. The broader point is that a country cannot continuously engage in wars, drone strikes, sanctions, and covert operations without expecting consequences. When powerful nations disregard the sovereignty of others, they create the very hostility and extremism they later claim to be fighting. That cycle becomes self‑perpetuating, and ordinary people, both abroad and at home end up paying the price. Killing the supreme leader was a disastrous decision, you can't just start killing religious figures you turn them to a legitimate martyr worldwide.
 

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iran pr is objectively hilarious but the thing is, all the shyt they're promising or boasting about doing - it would've been done already if they had the capability to do it

instead of targeting the ships that are coming for them, they're back to harassing anything civilian and soft and its just going to further isolate what's left of that gov

This is hilarious coming from Americans. You do realize Iran had agreed to all the U.S demands regarding nuclear restrictions right before they were attacked?

So what else are they supposed to do except conduct asymmetrical warfare?

The U.S doesn’t do so well with those kinds of wars. Besides its stunning victory over Grenada, it has lost every other war going back to Korea.
 

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The kingdom of Hawaii would like a word with you. Haiti got its reserves raided by the goddamn US government and still suffer the consequences. You don't know your history. Patrice Lumumba anyone?! Then you get mad the puppet you prop up turns into a piece of shyt.

Look up Operation Ajax and you'll see Iran was doing just fine 80 years ago until they gave their leader the boot, courtesy of the US and Britain. Which 20 years later led to the Iranian Revolution

The reason some of these places in Central America have had civil wars and conflicts since WW2 is because the US kicked out their leaders who wanted their fair share of their own natural resources and the US gave them the middle finger.

Look up United Fruit Company and come back to me
It’s actually insane people don’t know this
Chile, Brazil, Bolivia, DRC, Ghana, Afghanistan, Iran, Indonesia, Laos, Vietnam, Haiti, Nicaragua, Dominican Republic, the list goes on and on. Over 100 countries. It’s harder to find a country the US hasn’t tried to overthrow to protect corporate interests
 

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This is hilarious coming from Americans. You do realize Iran had agreed to all the U.S demands regarding nuclear restrictions right before they were attacked?

So what else are they supposed to do except conduct asymmetrical warfare?

The U.S doesn’t do so well with those kinds of wars. Besides its stunning victory over Grenada, it has lost every other war going back to Korea.
im not arguing anything from the angle that you think i am man. like... there's plenty of people who will happily and passionately argue that stuff with you

same as any other conflict, if you're going to fight you need to win. otherwise what are you actually doing?

that's the lens that every military or fighter should have, and that's the lens im looking at all of this from. and iran, through proxies, never actually had the foresight to realize how much they'd isolated themselves and what continuing to do so will lead to now that they're on a clear backfoot. they had over a decade to make a real ally out of russia and china and plainly failed because their government could never be taken seriously even amongst those who had a beneficial relationship.

also on that note..... if you're planning to flee or defect from iran, it becomes incredibly harder when that military is bombing its neighbors' civilian areas as well. so what happens when those people can't flee and the already insane water crisis in iran gets further complicated? i'm only discussing the picture that is more or less left out of media commentary.

and yeah its very, very clear that both parties were always negotiating in bad faith as they had been the previous few years too. that's not just a US/Iran thing either.
 
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