Official War With Iran Thread

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Friendly reminder to the team Iran and anti-west crowd Russia wanted this and is allowing it to happen.
How are they allowing this to happen? Trump from day one was against the Iran nuclear deal, he hired Bolton,Pence,Pompeo all anti-Iran hawks who want war with Iran in his cabinet. He is close friends with Netanyahu and Bin Salman who want war with Iran to the last American soldier. Trump and co is stumbling America into a bloody war with Iran that would break American power. The anti West and pro Iran crowd are just watching this happen.
 

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Pretty much. I have said it time and time again. War with Iran would be America's Adrianople/Rocroi. We are talking about 10k US military casualties in the first month of fighting, oil at $400-600, a global economic depression,the region in complete utter chaos creating more conflict and bloodshed and possibly Iran getting nukes after all this. Yeah there is little to gain and everything to lose in war.
 

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Pretty much. I have said it time and time again. War with Iran would be America's Adrianople/Rocroi. We are talking about 10k US military casualties in the first month of fighting, oil at $400-600, a global economic depression,the region in complete utter chaos creating more conflict and bloodshed and possibly Iran getting nukes after all this. Yeah there is little to gain and everything to lose in war.
Nothing to gain. Trump sees it as a dikk measuring contest (and also certainly sees it as exciting to send people to die on his orders), his cabinet sees it as beginning Armageddon so they can go to heaven or just kill brown people, and trump’s friends see it as the end of America. The only people who benefit would be Russia, Israel, and Saudi Arabia.
 

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Iran just wants to stand on its own two feet independent of western imperialism. The only 'threat' they pose is their desire for freedom. A country as great as Iran, the traditional superpower of western Asia since the days of Cyrus the Great over 2500 years ago, should never be expected to lay down and take it like a bytch. I can only hope that if the US starts a war, they get what's coming to them :pacspit:
 

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Nothing to gain. Trump sees it as a dikk measuring contest (and also certainly sees it as exciting to send people to die on his orders), his cabinet sees it as beginning Armageddon so they can go to heaven or just kill brown people, and trump’s friends see it as the end of America. The only people who benefit would be Russia, Israel, and Saudi Arabia.
Lol Saudi Arabia won't exist after all of this. Iran has ballistic missiles aimed not only at their oil infrastructure but their electrical grid and desalination plants. All Iran has to is lay waste to their oil infrastructure, take out their water and electricity infrastructure activate the shia proxies in the middle of the mayehm and boom Saudi Arabia descends into to total chaos. This is why no one wants war because if Saudi Arabia turns into Libya the oil market will see $400 a barrel of oil as permanent plunging the world into depression. And not only Saudi Arabia would get hit. Kuwait,Bahrain,UAE etc.
 
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Nothing to gain. Trump sees it as a dikk measuring contest (and also certainly sees it as exciting to send people to die on his orders), his cabinet sees it as beginning Armageddon so they can go to heaven or just kill brown people, and trump’s friends see it as the end of America. The only people who benefit would be Russia, Israel, and Saudi Arabia.
Imagine all the bullshyt Trump would be spewing.

Fake news folks, very few soldier casualties, very small number. Fake news is saying thousands, its only a small number. Believe me, we are beating them bad. Very easy folks.
 

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Since we have a lot of people interested in international relations here, I want to recommend you read about neorealism.

Neorealism (international relations) - Wikipedia

Neorealism is the only theory of international relations that makes any sense and is worth anything.

The leading scholar in the field is an American from Colombia University, Kenneth Waltz. In 2012 he wrote an article called "Why Iran should get the Bomb."

https://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~fczagare/PSC 504/Waltz.pdf

Waltz is the GOAT of this shyt. In 2002 he and fellow neorealist John Mearsheimer were invited to the White House to speak to Bush and Rice about the Iraq War. Both of them advised against it in the strongest possible terms. If a man of his credentials and his track record says something about international relations, you have to sit up and pay attention. His point is very simple: if Iran goes nuclear then it acts as a deterrent against Israel. The only region in the world that has just one nuclear power is west Asia, and the reason it is so unstable is because of the imbalance in power between Israel and all its neighbours. Nuclear Iran solves that imbalance and restores stability to the region
 

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The U.S can't afford nor stomach a war against Iran. It's too fukking big, shyt even Israel hit the :hubie:

No one has ever successfully air raided Iran. If you know their arsenal and terrain, you know it's nearly impossible. Even with a fleet of F22s, you wont be able eliminate it's capabilities because they're all over the damn country and they have sunburn missiles that can take down aircraft carriers. On top of that they have sleeper cells all over the world, you're asking to awaken an Al Quada on steroids that would bum rush all embassies and bases all over the world, but with TONS of funding. Iran is the most modern and well fortified country in the M.E.

This war can never happen. ever.
 

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Friendly reminder to the team Iran and anti-west crowd Russia wanted this and is allowing it to happen.
Not believing America's lies is anti west, when western allies are calling false intelligence? Not wanting war with Iran is team Iran? :dahell:

Do you know the ramifications going to war with Iran, that's like going to war with Saudi Arabia (the only other influential country in the Middle East). This isn't some sand box you fool, this isn't Syria, there is a lot of influence in that country that would rock the world, it would be like putting boots on the mecca.
 

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This is what I mean by their influence.

You bomb Iran, a single plane falls, and hezbollah is activated, the revolutionary guards whom are located around the world, and various sleeper cells and an advanced spy network Iran has (they drop diplomats like crazy). You'd have to be a fukking fool to do this. They have a spy network that can rival mossad. better look it up. Qasem Soleimani is the scariest figure in the middle east, hands down. He's the one that gave the Russians logistics in Syria and stamped out ISIS in Iraq (CIA asked him for help). This dude is so bad, both ISIS and Israel stay clear when he comes around and none have tried to assassinate him. This dude probably has the address of U.S politicians, yes, he's that bad.
 
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