Official War With Iran Thread

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The thing is, Iran has decentralized command and control. The younger Khamanei is radio silent despite a couple statements.

Trump, Hegseth and the Israelis have clearly lied about Iranian capabilities.

Also, most of the leadership are veterans of the Iran-Iraq War. They’ve seen thousands killed in chemical attacks and hundreds of thousands killed. I don’t think they are shaken in regards to continuing the tit for tat.

And there in lies the disconnect. Trump fundamentally doesn’t understand people like this.
we will see if the decentralized nature coupled with the losses leads to a fracture.

I know everyone wants to root for Iran because this is possibly one of the stupidest things Trump has done.

But we also have to stop pretending like they’re actual doing strategy. Or that the u military isn’t as advanced as it is.

In an ideal work Trump pulls out.

But we’re just as likely to see this get really ugly
 

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So they moderates are the guys who do rape dungeons, throw gays off roofs, and send thousands of fighters to Syria to dig mass graves for Assad?

it's honestly pretty weird perhaps even inexcusable when the "left" engages in alternative history/facts for the most tyrannical groups on the planet

unprompted one even came in to claim China has never committed a genocide(a blatant lie)

as far as Iran goes even putting aside their history of terrorism and internal repressions their treatment of their neighbors has been absolutely bloodthirsty and as ruthless as the great powers of yesteryear
 

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we will see if the decentralized nature coupled with the losses leads to a fracture.

I know everyone wants to root for Iran because this is possibly one of the stupidest things Trump has done.

But we also have to stop pretending like they’re actual doing strategy. Or that the u military isn’t as advanced as it is.

In an ideal work Trump pulls out.

But we’re just as likely to see this get really ugly

Iran has a strategy of deterrence. Their end goal is to impose costs so high that neither the gulf countries nor US will support attack against them in the near future.

I dont think there is anything that can deter Israel, but making the US and the Gulf hesitate will have to suffice.
 

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Iran has a strategy of deterrence. Their end goal is to impose costs so high that neither the gulf countries nor US will support attack against them in the near future.

I dont think there is anything that can deter Israel, but making the US and the Gulf hesitate will have to suffice.
What are Iranian citizens willing to incur?
 

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What are US citizens willing to incur? This war is unpopular here too.

Only public that supports this is Israel's.
This is deflection.

since Iran is the highly educated forward thinking society that you all framing them as.

What have them gained from their government engaging in proxy wars, wars with Iraq and a nuclear pursuit that has led to punishing sanctions.

Trump is dolt; but why were they willing to give more if the intentions were pure?
 

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It's always like this, extremists dance to each other's songs. Hamas and Likud were always reinforcing each other to a point I'll always have this totally unfounded theory that Hamas and Likud were buddies simply because they helped each other stay in power.
This isn’t a conspiracy theory as it was Israeli policy. Netenyahu allowed money from places like Qatar to flow to Hamas because they prefer Hamas in power over more moderate organizations like the PLO because they wanted to use it to delegitimize the Palestinian cause and talks of two state solutions on the global stage. Netenyahu has verbalized this exact reasoning himself and past Israeli government officials have stated this is the goal. It’s much easier politically to encroach upon Palestinian lands if you can paint their leadership as being irrational extremists who are impossible to negotiate with.

They are going to run the same play in Lebanon to justify conquering southern Lebenon as well. Instead of helping the Lebanese government tackle Hezbollah in a collaborative effort, they will simply label their government as incapable of the task regardless and justify their occupation of southern Lebanon as necessary for their security.

Israel is a colonial state. They want Gaza, West Bank, parts of Syria, Lebanon, and possibly Egypt and Jordan to expand their Lebensraum. They want extremist leaders in these areas to make the casus belli easier to declare.


 
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