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My guess it’s a famous division everyone knows and it’s a threat, negotiate or else.


If Trump wants to get busy for real you’d have to seize the strait and small tactical brigade would make sense.
You can't control the strait with a small tactical brigade. You gotta OD on numbers so that whatever bullshyt Iran throws at you, you can sustain it and keep making ground. And for that you need to live with the fact you gonna lose a bunch of people and military infrastructure, knowing that politically that's a huge no-no.

Having small groups like sitting ducks in a specific part that can be bombed at will ain't gonna make a lick of a difference for opening the strait.
 

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You can't control the strait with a small tactical brigade. You gotta OD on numbers so that whatever bullshyt Iran throws at you, you can sustain it and keep making ground. And for that you need to live with the fact you gonna lose a bunch of people and military infrastructure, knowing that politically that's a huge no-no.

Having small groups like sitting ducks in a specific part that can be bombed at will ain't gonna make a lick of a difference for opening the strait.
Anyone who lands on the island is going to be a lick, if anything you can learn from the russo Ukrainian war , is that it shows that air superiority really doesn't matter when you can make cheap dangerous drones for 200-300 each. You're basically sending people to the strait to die like fodder as sitting ducks the best case is trumps backs down i fear he won't.
 
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Anyone who lands on the island is going to be a lick, if anything you can learn from the russo Ukrainian war , is that shows that air superiority really doesn't matter when you can make cheap dangerous drones for 200-300 each. You're basically sending people to the straight to die like fodder as sitting ducks the best case is trumps backs down i fear he won't.
And the thing is, even in a perfect scenario where in day 1 the operation is flawless (land, sea and air attacks coordinating to avoid any significant damage) and they are able to take whatever territory they targeted.....eventually, Iran can still bomb the strait and tankers wont dare cross it or insurances will be so expensive no company gonna take a risk.

Even if you "control" the coastline, it's still not a guarantee that ships can have "safe passage". You only need 1 bomb to hit a ship and the whole thing goes back to "I ain't going through there" :dead:
 

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And the thing is, even in a perfect scenario where in day 1 the operation is flawless (land, see and air attacks coordinating to avoid any significant damage) and they are able to take whatever territory they targeted.....eventually, Iran can still bomb the strait and tankers wont dare cross it or insurances will be so expensive no company gonna take a risk.

Even if you "control" the coastline, it still not a guarantee that ships can have "safe passage". You only need 1 bomb to hit a ship and the whole thing goes back to "I ain't going through there" :dead:

Every single scenario likely ends in some sort of disaster for the US: Trying to take over and hold Kharg island, trying to take out the nuclear materials, trying to hold the Strait, etc.

The US military is the most capable force in the world, they can probably pull off any short term military objective we can imagine (such as the Venezuela operation), but it's what comes after that's the big question mark.
 

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Every single scenario likely ends in some sort of disaster for the US: Trying to take over and hold Kharg island, trying to take out the nuclear materials, trying to hold the Strait, etc.

The US military is the most capable force in the world, they can probably pull off any short term military objective we can imagine (such as the Venezuela operation), but it's what comes after that's the big question mark.
It's wild watching the Putinification of one of the most, if not thee most dominate military in history. If we do boots on the ground, I doubt the MAGA base will even waiver. Total jackasses letting troops die for Israel and Dubai real estate.
 

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It's wild watching the Putinification of one of the most, if not thee most dominate military in history. If we do boots on the ground, I doubt the MAGA base will even waiver. Total jackasses letting troops die for Israel and Dubai real estate.

Lol, I was with you until the "Dubai real estate" piece. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying, but this war is not in the UAE's interest. Their energy sites are being attacked and this is bad for their tourism/business environment.

Unless you meant something different?
 

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Lol, I was with you until the "Dubai real estate" piece. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying, but this war is not in the UAE's interest. Their energy sites are being attacked and this is bad for their tourism/business environment.

Unless you meant something different?
UAE, SA, Qatar I get that they're receiving collateral damage, but it's seemingly forcing their hand to potentially step into the war. All of it is unnecessary.
 

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Every single scenario likely ends in some sort of disaster for the US: Trying to take over and hold Kharg island, trying to take out the nuclear materials, trying to hold the Strait, etc.

The US military is the most capable force in the world, they can probably pull off any short term military objective we can imagine (such as the Venezuela operation), but it's what comes after that's the big question mark.
Us military isn't built for a war of attrition, any war with iran would be a very prolonged and dangerous war. It's not terrain you can just get in and out like Iraq or Afghanistan, you're also dealing with 90 million people with thousands of underground bunkers.
 
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