Hood Critic
The Power Circle
Ironically, little Marco was at UFC in over sized shoes when he should have been in Islamabad. Vance should really feel hung out to dry.
Official War With Iran Thread
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Feels like the choice between them has been made
This is another desperate, moronic move. Preventing Iran from exporting oil will just make the global economic crisis worse faster.
I expect Trump to go back to threatening to nuke Iran within 72 hours.
I expect Trump to go back to threatening to nuke Iran within 72 hours.
Man I’m over it.
All the bs posturing and lying, just rip the bandaid off at this point.
The sooner we lay boots on the ground the sooner we can focus on how to end this shyt.
And I mean from the point of view of this being a disastrous move, that the pubic doesn’t support.
WTFisWallace?
All Star
Trump routinely calls several American cities “shytholes”.Trump routinely demonizes damn near 40% of the population.
Trump salivates at using (not by at his own hand of course, that would be too much work for him) deadly force against the US population.
Trump thinks people who sign up for the military are generally losers.
Trump/MAGA routinely project their inner feelings/doings thru accusations. Hard to believe someone else would have national pride, dignity, or just general principles….when you have none of your own or any desire to get some. He must literally go “ain’t no fukking way
” when he see others stand for nothing else than country & morals.
Unless you're arguing the JCPOA was a bad deal to defend Biden, you can add whatever caveat you want to the discussion, he underlying result is the same. The result is: BIDEN was not a fan of the JCPOA which is why democrats overwhelmingly do not attack Trump from entering the program which was successful.
It will take more than a million "boots on the ground" to overthrow the Iranian regime. Where are those troops going to come from?
And even if they manage that, does the US have the will to stay in Iran indefinitely to prevent the people they overthrew from coming back into power?
I just don't think the American public will support another Afghanistan/Iraq-style prolonged war and occupation in this day and age. Trump, for all of his idiocy, understands that very well. I honestly think there is a much higher chance of use of a nuclear bomb than an attempt to overthrow the Iranian regime with a massive ground force.
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WTFisWallace?
All Star
I think I heard the full brunt of the lack of oil is even being felt yet because the world to some degree is operating on the oil that ship just before the Strait of Hormuz was closed.
Would be hilarious to see Iran simply go “…ok”‘if we all go to hell, it’ll be worth it’
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
You're playing loose with that idea and your own opinions. He didn't like aspects of JCPOA and there are a lot of people who feel like he acquiesced to the Iranians in negotiations with them to re-enter the JCPOA and on the release of American hostages.
You're attempting to make a logical leap that has anything to do with D's not being harder on Trump for pulling out.
He definitely failed to get Iran back in but you all's assumptions are off the mark.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Security Council: Russia and China veto resolution on Strait of Hormuz
The UN Security Council has failed to adopt a resolution aiming to boost security in the Strait of Hormuz as the critical shipping corridor remains largely closed to global trade and the transport of humanitarian aid, with war continuing to rage across the region.
That's their problem
So what is your point here.
You:
A. Agree biden was not a fan of the JCPOA
B. Biden and and hardline dems did not want to in your words"acquiesced to the Iranians in negotiations with them to re-enter the JCPOA and on the release of American hostages"
You agree that Biden and the Schumer wing was not a fan of JCPOA and did not want to go back in the deal. Therefore we can safely conclude they do not criticize Trump for exiting the deal because they're not fans of the deal. Very fair assumption
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
That's not what I said champ, you might want to read what I said versus skimming or whatever you're doing.
I do not agree with that, Biden clearly wanted some form of a deal, the evidence is literally there.
That's my point, you can't "safely conclude" anything other than they tried and failed to get Iran back into the deal. There is evidence of the contrary.
Why is any of this relevant? It goes back to the original conversation that Kamala had no reason to escalate and do anything differently than what was already being done via the Biden administration. So no, Kamala would not have authorized a military strike against Iran. A clear contrast to the soft shoeing you all were doing to avoid having a good answer for not having MORE smoke for the administration who actively conducting genocide versus the one you say enabled one.
Dog wtf are you even arguing? Biden wanted " some form of the deal" is hilariois to read, you're playing schematics while trying to argue biden wanted to jump back in, this is the public relations ass thing the democrat politicans do that voters hate
Biden either wanted the JCPOA deal or not, not some form of the deal
Spidey Man
Superstar
Glad I took a 401k loan to protect myself from the upcoming Trump Golden Depression or Stagflation. Man is doing a great job for his master in Moscow.
I'd argue he works for China, Trump has been nothing but beneficial for their growth and future dominance Irregardless of his sanctions.