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I keep telling dudes...Iran is DIFFERENT

I don't like their moves abroad, especially in South America, and I believe the USA has every right to push back against them...but a war against them would make Vietnam look like LASER TAG.

They will drop people in America, straight up.
Yea I know Imad, check this out tho, Qassem was with him that day, and they were supposed to bomb his car that morning, but guess why they didn't? Qassem was with him. They had to wait until later that evening. Imad is bad, but Qassem is different. It's like the difference between assassinating a contractor vs assassinating the director of the CIA, those will prompt 2 different responses.

peep this article. Israel’s most dangerous enemy: Who are you, Hajj Qasem Soleimani?

in order for intelligence agencies to assassinate him, it needs to go through the president, and that's pretty tough because he moves around so much. The reason for this is, he's not just some random terrorist leader apart of an organization, he's an appointed leader of the qud forces, meaning he's a govt official. you bomb one, and you pretty much start a war with a sovereign nation....one that is very capable of defending itself. this is why altho mossad would love to lick him, they just can't. it's like killing an iranian vice president.
 

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Iran Threat Debate Is Set Off by Images of Missiles at Sea
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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at the United States Embassy in Baghdad earlier this year. The order for a partial evacuation of the embassy adds to the rising tensions between the United States and Iran.CreditCreditAndrew Caballero-Reynolds/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
WASHINGTON — The intelligence that caused the White House to escalate its warnings about a threat from Iran came from photographs of missiles on small boats in the Persian Gulf that were put on board by Iranian paramilitary forces, three American officials said.

Overhead imagery showed fully assembled missiles, stoking fears that the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps would fire them at United States naval ships. Additional pieces of intelligence picked up threats against commercial shipping and potential attacks by Arab militias with Iran ties on American troops in Iraq.


But just how alarmed the Trump administration should be over the new intelligence is a subject of fierce debate among the White House, the Pentagon, the C.I.A. and America’s allies.

The photographs presented a different kind of threat than previously seen from Iran, said the three officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk about it publicly. Taken with the other intelligence, the photographs could indicate that Iran is preparing to attack United States forces. That is the view of John R. Bolton, President Trump’s hard-line national security adviser, and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

But other officials — including Europeans, Iraqis, members of both parties in Congress and some senior officials within the Trump administration — said Iran’s moves might mostly be defensive against what Tehran believes are provocative acts by Washington.


Either way, the questions about the underlying intelligence, and complaints by lawmakers that they had not been briefed on it, reflect a deep mistrust of Mr. Trump’s national security team.


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Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senator Chuck Schumer both raised concerns over the lack of transparency from the Trump administration about the new threats from Iran.CreditErin Schaff/The New York Times

Working off the new intelligence, the State Department on Wednesday ordered a partial evacuation of the United States Embassy in Baghdad and a consulate in Iraqi Kurdistan, a move that one senior American official said was an overreaction to the intelligence and could possibly do more to endanger diplomats than to keep them safe.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California, in a closed-door meeting of House Democrats, criticized the administration’s lack of transparency on the intelligence, according to a Democratic aide. Ms. Pelosi also said that the administration must consult Congress before taking any action.

Ms. Pelosi spoke hours after the evacuation of embassy personnel was ordered by Mr. Pompeo, who as a congressman was one of the fiercest critics of the Obama administration’s handling of the 2012 attacks on the American diplomatic mission and annex in Benghazi, Libya.

But the senior American official said Mr. Pompeo was overreacting, and Iraqi officials said the threat level portrayed in the intelligence was not urgent enough.


Intelligence officials are set to meet on Thursday with senior congressional leaders for a briefing on the new intelligence about Iran. Nine American national security and congressional officials discussed the intelligence and the closed-door talks about it on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about them publicly.

Until recently, American government officials had said that Iran was continuing its usual support to Arab militias in the region, but was not seeking a fight.

That shifted with the new intelligence on May 3, changing the Pentagon’s assessment of the immediacy of the threat. Reacting to that information, the military’s Central Command asked that an aircraft carrier and bombers be sent to the Persian Gulf, rebuilding a show of deterrent force that some officials believed had been eroded by recent troop drawdowns.

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Tensions between the United States and Iran have sharply increased. John Bolton, the national security adviser, has long pushed for regime change in Iran. One of his chosen replacements is the dissident group Mujahedeen Khalq, known as M.E.K.CreditCreditDoug Mills/The New York Times
On May 5, the White House sent Mr. Bolton to announce that the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln would sail to the gulf sooner than expected. Choosing Mr. Bolton, who is a longtime advocate of regime change in Iran, to deliver that message fueled skepticism among allies and congressional Democrats.

As military officials struggled to show that the threat from Iran was growing, intelligence officials declassified a photograph of one of the small boats, called dhows, carrying what was described as a functional Iranian missile.

The Pentagon has not released the photograph. On its own, two American officials said, the photograph was not compelling enough to convince the American public and lawmakers, or foreign allies, of the new Iranian threat. But releasing other supporting images could compromise secret sources and methods of collecting intelligence, the officials said.

The other photographs, which remain classified, show the Revolutionary Guards loading missiles onto the boats at several Iranian ports, the two American officials said. It is believed the boats are under the Revolutionary Guards’s control.


CNN first reported that Iranian missiles were being moved onto ships last week. But new details have emerged in recent days, and American officials have concluded that Iran did not intend to transfer the weapons to a foreign militia.

Combined with other intelligence, the photographs signaled a troubling Iranian mobilization of forces that officials said put American ships, bases and commercial vessels at risk.


Adding to that concern, the United States recently learned of conversations between the Revolutionary Guards and foreign militias discussing attacks on American troops and diplomats in Iraq.
The conversations themselves are nothing new, but the recent discussions were held with unusual frequency and included specifics about strikes on American targets.

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Mohammad Bagheri, a commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, and President Hassan Rouhani of Iran last month in Tehran.CreditAbedin Taherkenareh/EPA, via Shutterstock
American officials said they have also collected intelligence about Iran targeting commercial shipping, prompting a warning to mariners issued last Friday. That was one of the reasons that led American officials to suspect Iran was behind this week’s sabotage of four tankers off the coast of the United Arab Emirates. The officials said they do not have conclusive forensic analysis that shows Iran was to blame.

In a sign of the rising tensions over the handling of the Iran threat, a senior British military official who is deputy commander of the American-led coalition fighting the Islamic State said Tuesday that he saw no increased risk.

Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, who sits on the Foreign Relations and Intelligence Committees and who was briefed last week on the new intelligence, said on Wednesday that while he did not want a war with Iran
, the United States must respond if attacked.

“I’ve been here eight years. This is, by far, the single most imminent potential conflict of this significance that I have been around,” Mr. Rubio said. “This is real. This is not a fake thing. It’s not being made up by somebody. This president does not even want to have troops in the Middle East.”

But Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, said flaws in the Trump administration’s approach were evidenced in an article by The New York Times that reported on Pentagon plans for sending as many as 120,000 troops to the Middle East if hostilities with Iran escalated.

“Did we learn the lessons of the last decade?” Mr. Schumer said on the Senate floor. “There is an alarming lack of clarity here, there’s a lack of strategy, and there’s a lack of consultation. The president ought to come up with a strategy and make it clear to Congress.”

Iran began mobilizing its forces after Washington issued new economic sanctions against the country, moved to stop nations from buying Iranian oil and designated the Revolutionary Guards, an arm of the Iranian military, a terrorist group, two American officials said.


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John R. Bolton, the national security adviser, last month at the White House.CreditTom Brenner for The New York Times
Hanging over the current disagreement is the debate over the Iraq war and, specifically, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell’s address to the United Nations in 2003. Mr. Powell’s presentation included fuzzy images and partial communications intercepts, and detailed what came to be understood as wildly wrong assessments about the Iraqi government’s illicit weapons.

In the debate over Iran, Representative Seth Moulton, Democrat of Massachusetts, has introduced legislation to require the Trump administration to get congressional approval before “engaging in hostilities” with Iran. In April, Senator Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, pressed Mr. Pompeo during a hearing for the same commitment, but the secretary of state deflected the request.

Most Republicans signaled they supported the administration’s tough line. “Iran seems to be more aggressive, and we have to push back,” Senator Richard C. Shelby, Republican of Alabama and the chairman of the Appropriations Committee, said after meeting with intelligence officials. “We cannot give them a lot of space.”

Divisions over the intelligence extended to American allies.

Troops from Germany and the Netherlands were pulled back to bases in Iraq. Spanish defense officials, to avoid entanglement in any upcoming conflict with Iran, withdrew a frigate that was part of the American-led carrier strike group heading to the Persian Gulf. Training efforts by France and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization are continuing as normal.


The State Department ordered “nonemergency U.S. government employees” at both the embassy in Baghdad and the consulate in Erbil, the Kurdish capital, to leave the country. The order applied primarily to full-time diplomats posted to Iraq; an embassy statement said that visa services in Iraq would be suspended as a result. Contractors who provide security, food and other such services will remain in place for now.

Mr. Pompeo shared some details of the intelligence with Iraqi leaders on May 7 when he made a surprise visit to Baghdad. But American officials in Washington said the most delicate intelligence was not shared with the Iraqis for fear their agencies have been penetrated by Iranian spies.

Tensions with Iran have been rising since May 2018, when Mr. Trump withdrew the United States from the 2015 nuclear deal that world powers reached with Tehran. American sanctions were reimposed in November, weakening the Iranian economy — perhaps more quickly than expected.

Reporting was contributed by Mark Mazzetti and Adam Goldman from Washington; Thomas Gibbons-Neff from Kabul, Afghanistan; Milan Schreuer from Brussels; Claire Moses from London; Melissa Eddy from Berlin; Aurelien Breeden from Paris; and Alissa J. Rubin from Baghdad.
 
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Yea I know Imad, check this out tho, Qassem was with him that day, and they were supposed to bomb his car that morning, but guess why they didn't? Qassem was with him. They had to wait until later that evening. Imad is bad, but Qassem is different. It's like the difference between assassinating a contractor vs assassinating the director of the CIA, those will prompt 2 different responses.

peep this article. Israel’s most dangerous enemy: Who are you, Hajj Qasem Soleimani?

in order for intelligence agencies to assassinate him, it needs to go through the president, and that's pretty tough because he moves around so much. The reason for this is, he's not just some random terrorist leader apart of an organization, he's an appointed leader of the qud forces, meaning he's a govt official. you bomb one, and you pretty much start a war with a sovereign nation....one that is very capable of defending itself. this is why altho mossad would love to lick him, they just can't. it's like killing an iranian vice president.
I DID NOT know this :ohhh:
 

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Iran also got these bird killers and the Shahab 4 missile that can hit any U.S military base in the M.E.

Alot of people ignorant on how powerful Iran really is. This isn't some Syria or Iraq, persians aren't arabs, these muthafukkas can fight. Could even give Israel that work if they wanted.
Iran is drop squad personified.

If hezbollah gets active it’s not just the security of major American cities you have to worry about. 2nd and 3rd tier cities would BE ON FIRE!

I’m not talking NY/LA/CHI. I’m talking ATL, MIA, HOU, DEN, SF, IND, etc.

Iran ain’t sending suicide bombers in either. They’re doing elaborate plots and will have proxies doing the damage.

They’re big boss status and they don’t respect European rules of war fare.

They’re damn near Russia when it comes to asymmetrical warfare.
 

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Iran is drop squad personified.

If hezbollah gets active it’s not just the security of major American cities you have to worry about. 2nd and 3rd tier cities would BE ON FIRE!

I’m not talking NY/LA/CHI. I’m talking ATL, MIA, HOU, DEN, SF, IND, etc.

Iran ain’t sending suicide bombers in either. They’re doing elaborate plots and will have proxies doing the damage.

They’re big boss status and they don’t respect European rules of war fare.

They’re damn near Russia when it comes to asymmetrical warfare.

Probably worse than russia in that respect
 

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Iran is roughly 3x the size of Iraq in terms of population. Larger geographically. A maritime nation sitting directly next to a waterway that most of the world's oil moves through. Highly trained military. Enough missiles to level a small country. Ties to Russia, China and North Korea. Prefers guerrilla war tactics and is deviously efficient at it. They have nothing to lose as sanctions have crippled their economy and the prices of everyday household goods there. I'm not feeling this one at all :hubie:
 

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Pretty much. I have said it time and time again. War with Iran would be America's Adrianople/Rocroi. We are talking about 10k US military casualties in the first month of fighting, oil at $400-600, a global economic depression,the region in complete utter chaos creating more conflict and bloodshed and possibly Iran getting nukes after all this. Yeah there is little to gain and everything to lose in war.

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Iran is drop squad personified.

If hezbollah gets active it’s not just the security of major American cities you have to worry about. 2nd and 3rd tier cities would BE ON FIRE!

I’m not talking NY/LA/CHI. I’m talking ATL, MIA, HOU, DEN, SF, IND, etc.

Iran ain’t sending suicide bombers in either. They’re doing elaborate plots and will have proxies doing the damage.

They’re big boss status and they don’t respect European rules of war fare.

They’re damn near Russia when it comes to asymmetrical warfare.

Remember like 5 years ago the ex-Mossad chief was on 60 Minutes like :whoa:, Iran isn't a threat, they don't have nukes. Remember how like three ex-IDF heads were running against Netanyahu in the election? Saw how CENTCOM just contradicted Bolton on Iran in public?

Deep State not feeling this. Those chickenhawks better be careful, this ain't a game.
 

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Remember like 5 years ago the ex-Mossad chief was on 60 Minutes like :whoa:, Iran isn't a threat, they don't have nukes. Remember how like three ex-IDF heads were running against Netanyahu in the election? Saw how CENTCOM just contradicted Bolton on Iran in public?

Deep State not feeling this. Those chickenhawks better be careful, this ain't a game.
even Trump ain't with the shyt...both sides de-escalating like a bih right now :laff:

:whoo:




wsj.com

Intelligence Suggests U.S., Iran Misread Each Other, Stoking Tensions:francis:
Warren P. Strobel, Nancy A. Youssef and Vivian Salama
7-8 minutes
Intelligence collected by the U.S. government shows Iran’s leaders believe the U.S. planned to attack them, prompting preparation by Tehran for possible counterstrikes, according to one interpretation of the information, people familiar with the matter said.

That view of the intelligence could help explain why Iranian forces and their allies took action that was seen as threatening to U.S. forces in Iraq and elsewhere, prompting a U.S. military buildup in the Persian Gulf region and a drawdown of U.S. diplomats in Iraq.

Meanwhile, administration officials said President Trump told aides including his acting defense chief that he didn’t want a military conflict with Iran, a development indicating tensions in the U.S.-Iran standoff may be easing.

However, there are sharply differing views within the Trump administration over the meaning of intelligence showing Iran and its proxies making military preparations, people familiar with the matter said.

Intelligence officials on Thursday briefed House and Senate leaders, along with the top Democrats and Republicans on the House and Senate intelligence committees, on the Iran situation.

Some within the Trump administration argue that the intelligence indicates Iran is, or was, planning to strike first. On a trip to Baghdad last week, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, an Iran hawk, said there were indications Iran was planning imminent attacks.

“I am convinced that the information and warnings that we have collected are of greater concern than the normal Iranian harassment activity that we’ve seen in the Persian Gulf and surrounding area,” Rep. Mac Thornberry (R., Texas) said on Thursday. “So I don’t think it’s business as usual. It’s cause for greater concern.”

Iran repeatedly has denied it has plans to attack U.S. forces, calling the information cited by Mr. Pompeo and others “fake intelligence.”

One U.S. official said the view of Iran’s movements and actions as defensive in nature came from new intelligence in recent days. This unspecified intelligence has affected how American officials see Iran’s actions, the official said.

“I don’t think there’s faulty intel here necessarily. I think the intel may be accurate,” Sen. Angus King (I., Maine), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told CNN on Thursday after he was briefed on some of the intelligence. “But the unanswered question, again, is: Are they reacting to our assertions of action in the Middle East or are we reacting to them? That’s an unanswered question for me.”

These assessments of the intelligence information were separate from Mr. Trump’s comments to top aides including acting Defense Secretary Pat Shanahan that he doesn’t want tensions between the U.S. and Iran to lead to war.

During a meeting on Wednesday at the White House, Mr. Trump made the comments to Mr. Shanahan as part of a conversation, the officials said, adding that Mr. Trump didn’t issue a specific order.

The New York Times had earlier reported on those comments.

Mr. Trump in recent days has also told advisers that he is reluctant to start any kind of unilateral conflict with Iran, one administration official said.

Instead, he has expressed his interest in a negotiated solution, even if that means speaking to the Iranians directly, this person said, a move that would be counter to the recommendation of some top advisers.

Last week, Mr. Trump suggested Iran’s leaders also consider talks.

“What I’d like to see with Iran, I’d like to see them call me,” he said in remarks at the White House then. Iranian officials have said they don’t see a reason to hold talks with Mr. Trump, who has pulled out of an international nuclear agreement with Iran and reimposed punitive economic sanctions.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump again steered around talk of a confrontation. Asked at the White House if the U.S. would have a war with Iran, he replied: “I hope not.”

The comments came amid other signs that tensions between the U.S. and Iran may be easing after the U.S. over the preceding days undertook a series of military deploymentsin response to what officials described as intelligence showing increased Iranian threats.

On Thursday, two U.S. military destroyers, the USS McFaul and the USS Gonzalez, transited without incident through the Strait of Hormuz near Iran, officials said.

“It was the quietest transit we have seen in a long time,” a defense official said. U.S. military vessels traveling through the area often encounter challenges from aggressive Iranian fast boats and other vessels, even though there rarely have been armed confrontations.

The Pentagon said the recent U.S. military deployments, consisting of an aircraft carrier, U.S. bombers and other ships and personnel, may have helped quell hostilities.

“The deterrence part of this is going pretty well from our perspective,” the defense official said, citing the “effects we have seen.”

The deployments, sought by military officials, were intended to deter any prospect of Iranian hostility, not as an offensive threat, military officials stressed.

“This is a case where credible intelligence drove measured, appropriate operations,” a senior defense official said.

Mr. Trump on Thursday also met with President Ueli Maurer of Switzerland, holding talks that included a discussion of the crisis in the Middle East, the White House said. In Iran, Switzerland serves as a protecting power on behalf of the U.S. It also serves as a channel for diplomatic communication between the U.S. and Iran, since official diplomatic relations ceased between Washington and Tehran in 1979.

“President Trump expressed his gratitude for Switzerland’s role in facilitating international mediation and diplomatic relations on behalf of the U.S.,” the White House said.

Share Your Thoughts
What do you think this experience with Iran says about the relationship between intelligence and foreign policy? Join the conversation below.

—Siobhan Hughes and Gordon Lubold contributed to this article.

Write to Warren P. Strobel at Warren.Strobel@wsj.com, Nancy A. Youssef at nancy.youssef@wsj.comand Vivian Salama at vivian.salama@wsj.com




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Iran is drop squad personified.

If hezbollah gets active it’s not just the security of major American cities you have to worry about. 2nd and 3rd tier cities would BE ON FIRE!

I’m not talking NY/LA/CHI. I’m talking ATL, MIA, HOU, DEN, SF, IND, etc.

Iran ain’t sending suicide bombers in either. They’re doing elaborate plots and will have proxies doing the damage.

They’re big boss status and they don’t respect European rules of war fare.

They’re damn near Russia when it comes to asymmetrical warfare.

OK.


So let's ask the question again.

WHY WOULD THIS ADMINISTRATION WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN??!!
 

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even Trump ain't with the shyt...both sides de-escalating like a bih right now :laff:

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wsj.com

Intelligence Suggests U.S., Iran Misread Each Other, Stoking Tensions:francis:
Warren P. Strobel, Nancy A. Youssef and Vivian Salama
7-8 minutes
Intelligence collected by the U.S. government shows Iran’s leaders believe the U.S. planned to attack them, prompting preparation by Tehran for possible counterstrikes, according to one interpretation of the information, people familiar with the matter said.

That view of the intelligence could help explain why Iranian forces and their allies took action that was seen as threatening to U.S. forces in Iraq and elsewhere, prompting a U.S. military buildup in the Persian Gulf region and a drawdown of U.S. diplomats in Iraq.

Meanwhile, administration officials said President Trump told aides including his acting defense chief that he didn’t want a military conflict with Iran, a development indicating tensions in the U.S.-Iran standoff may be easing.

However, there are sharply differing views within the Trump administration over the meaning of intelligence showing Iran and its proxies making military preparations, people familiar with the matter said.

Intelligence officials on Thursday briefed House and Senate leaders, along with the top Democrats and Republicans on the House and Senate intelligence committees, on the Iran situation.

Some within the Trump administration argue that the intelligence indicates Iran is, or was, planning to strike first. On a trip to Baghdad last week, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, an Iran hawk, said there were indications Iran was planning imminent attacks.

“I am convinced that the information and warnings that we have collected are of greater concern than the normal Iranian harassment activity that we’ve seen in the Persian Gulf and surrounding area,” Rep. Mac Thornberry (R., Texas) said on Thursday. “So I don’t think it’s business as usual. It’s cause for greater concern.”

Iran repeatedly has denied it has plans to attack U.S. forces, calling the information cited by Mr. Pompeo and others “fake intelligence.”

One U.S. official said the view of Iran’s movements and actions as defensive in nature came from new intelligence in recent days. This unspecified intelligence has affected how American officials see Iran’s actions, the official said.

“I don’t think there’s faulty intel here necessarily. I think the intel may be accurate,” Sen. Angus King (I., Maine), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told CNN on Thursday after he was briefed on some of the intelligence. “But the unanswered question, again, is: Are they reacting to our assertions of action in the Middle East or are we reacting to them? That’s an unanswered question for me.”

These assessments of the intelligence information were separate from Mr. Trump’s comments to top aides including acting Defense Secretary Pat Shanahan that he doesn’t want tensions between the U.S. and Iran to lead to war.

During a meeting on Wednesday at the White House, Mr. Trump made the comments to Mr. Shanahan as part of a conversation, the officials said, adding that Mr. Trump didn’t issue a specific order.

The New York Times had earlier reported on those comments.

Mr. Trump in recent days has also told advisers that he is reluctant to start any kind of unilateral conflict with Iran, one administration official said.

Instead, he has expressed his interest in a negotiated solution, even if that means speaking to the Iranians directly, this person said, a move that would be counter to the recommendation of some top advisers.

Last week, Mr. Trump suggested Iran’s leaders also consider talks.

“What I’d like to see with Iran, I’d like to see them call me,” he said in remarks at the White House then. Iranian officials have said they don’t see a reason to hold talks with Mr. Trump, who has pulled out of an international nuclear agreement with Iran and reimposed punitive economic sanctions.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump again steered around talk of a confrontation. Asked at the White House if the U.S. would have a war with Iran, he replied: “I hope not.”

The comments came amid other signs that tensions between the U.S. and Iran may be easing after the U.S. over the preceding days undertook a series of military deploymentsin response to what officials described as intelligence showing increased Iranian threats.

On Thursday, two U.S. military destroyers, the USS McFaul and the USS Gonzalez, transited without incident through the Strait of Hormuz near Iran, officials said.

“It was the quietest transit we have seen in a long time,” a defense official said. U.S. military vessels traveling through the area often encounter challenges from aggressive Iranian fast boats and other vessels, even though there rarely have been armed confrontations.

The Pentagon said the recent U.S. military deployments, consisting of an aircraft carrier, U.S. bombers and other ships and personnel, may have helped quell hostilities.

“The deterrence part of this is going pretty well from our perspective,” the defense official said, citing the “effects we have seen.”

The deployments, sought by military officials, were intended to deter any prospect of Iranian hostility, not as an offensive threat, military officials stressed.

“This is a case where credible intelligence drove measured, appropriate operations,” a senior defense official said.

Mr. Trump on Thursday also met with President Ueli Maurer of Switzerland, holding talks that included a discussion of the crisis in the Middle East, the White House said. In Iran, Switzerland serves as a protecting power on behalf of the U.S. It also serves as a channel for diplomatic communication between the U.S. and Iran, since official diplomatic relations ceased between Washington and Tehran in 1979.

“President Trump expressed his gratitude for Switzerland’s role in facilitating international mediation and diplomatic relations on behalf of the U.S.,” the White House said.

Share Your Thoughts
What do you think this experience with Iran says about the relationship between intelligence and foreign policy? Join the conversation below.

—Siobhan Hughes and Gordon Lubold contributed to this article.

Write to Warren P. Strobel at Warren.Strobel@wsj.com, Nancy A. Youssef at nancy.youssef@wsj.comand Vivian Salama at vivian.salama@wsj.com




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With all due respect, I don't see that as both sides. This reads as the US is back peddling.

As they should when they push a stupid narrative and the entire world tells them to slow their roll.

“What I’d like to see with Iran, I’d like to see them call me,” he said in remarks at the White House then. Iranian officials have said they don’t see a reason to hold talks with Mr. Trump, who has pulled out of an international nuclear agreement with Iran and reimposed punitive economic sanctions.


Iran's argument is - you unilaterally cancelled a good faith deal we had in place with the entire world to try to look tough. We have nothing to discuss.
 
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