Official War With Iran Thread

[Kyle C. Barker]

Zelensky sacrificed his people on the pyre to fight a losing war and let his homeland
become a laboratory for new weapons systems like Anduril's various drones and missiles.

He's a fool and will go down in history as a man who helped to end hundreds of thousands
of lives in the earliest skirmishes of World War 3.

Tankie babble. Can't help yourself using this war as an excuse to push pro-Russia shyt

It's so strange.

I wonder how Zelensky ended up in a war in the first place?


And why do the ukranians have so much knowledge about intercepting shahed drones?

 

[wire28]

There are a number of Iran hawks who have wanted to bomb Iran for decades independent of Israel's influence. It goes back to the many embarrassments they feel that Iran has caused us, such as the hostage crisis, Iran Contra, etc. Someone like John Bolton strikes me as someone who would want to bomb Iran regardless, and if I remember correctly, Trump was upset at Netanyahu for not participating fully in the Solemani assassination.

I don't think you're an antisemite, but blaming this more on Israel than the US will inevitably breed more antisemitism. This is part of the pattern of the dumb wars that the US has fought over the decades (Vietnam, Iraq, etc.).

The problem here is not Israel, the problem is empire. The US's attempts to maintain hegemony have been detrimental to the world in much the same way the British Empire's attempts were, look at all the bullshyt the British did (Israel/Palestine, India/Pakistan) that still cause global instability to this day.

We are already aware of Israel's prerogatives, we are already aware that Netanyahu and his cabinet want regional hegemony and to destroy the chance of a Palestinian State. But as the more powerful country providing them resources, the onus is on us, not on them.

That’s why we all should be praying for Chinese hegemony to replace us. It’ll be much kinder, gentler and all about friendly economic competition instead of exploitation

 

[CrimsonTider]

What type of power are you talking about gaining here?

The power to make and enforce laws.

This whole shyt is set up for widespread government-induced fukkery in November, because no sane Administration would pull some shyt like this in a pivotal election year with polling being as horrific as it is for the GOP.

Trump is a lame duck president and he got damn near all of his agenda passed last year.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

The power to make and enforce laws.

Trump is a lame duck president and he got damn near all of his agenda passed last year.

Why would not supporting an unpopular war be bad for Democrats politically?

You realize that Obama not supporting the war in Iraq and Trump (lying) about not supporting the Iraq war played a part in both of them getting elected?

 

[FAH1223]

 

[CrimsonTider]

Why would not supporting an unpopular war be bad for Democrats politically?

You realize that Obama not supporting the war in Iraq and Trump (lying) about not supporting the Iraq war played a part in both of them getting elected?

Not supporting an unpopular war and funding the military are 2 separate things.

 

[FAH1223]

The Koreans must be pissed

 

[987654321]

We're about to watch Iraq redux and see a bunch of young men and women maimed and murdered.

Mass rapes.

Mass death.

Comical levels of expenditure that will only really go to weapons manufacturing.

All while the economy continues to decay in the states as people suffer form AI Utopia psychosis
and our industrial capacity continues to largely atrophy while becoming a smaller and smaller pie of
our total output.

The delusion will continue to fly around for a bit until you can no longer hide our slowing GDP growth, the mass layoffs,
and the potential balkanization of the United states as our decline accelerates.

shyt is bad but whatever, y'all keep letting people dump fortunes into the industry that employs me, so I'mma sit back,
chill, and stack this bread in the cheapest living conditions available in the entire country.

Why are you describing Russia? What do they have to do with this?

 

[Robbie3000]

There are a number of Iran hawks who have wanted to bomb Iran for decades independent of Israel's influence. It goes back to the many embarrassments they feel that Iran has caused us, such as the hostage crisis, Iran Contra, etc. Someone like John Bolton strikes me as someone who would want to bomb Iran regardless, and if I remember correctly, Trump was upset at Netanyahu for not participating fully in the Solemani assassination.

I don't think you're an antisemite, but blaming this more on Israel than the US will inevitably breed more antisemitism. This is part of the pattern of the dumb wars that the US has fought over the decades (Vietnam, Iraq, etc.).

The problem here is not Israel, the problem is empire. The US's attempts to maintain hegemony have been detrimental to the world in much the same way the British Empire's attempts were, look at all the bullshyt the British did (Israel/Palestine, India/Pakistan) that still cause global instability to this day.

We are already aware of Israel's prerogatives, we are already aware that Netanyahu and his cabinet want regional hegemony and to destroy the chance of a Palestinian State. But as the more powerful country providing them resources, the onus is on us, not on them.

Breh, it would be hard to argue that all the wars and conflicts this century haven’t been at the behest of Israel. All of them. War on terror, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen and now Iran.

I guess you could argue that American and Israeli hegemony are one and the same, but the Israeli tail has been wagging the American dog for much of this century and it’s difficult to argue otherwise.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

interesting video about the stuxnet virus that took down Iranian uranium enrichment centrifuges

some of the worm used several zero days in windows OS. it seems like windows opened a tunnel for them deliberately to exploit

 

[Outlaw]

Breh, it would be hard to argue that all the wars and conflicts this century haven’t been at the behest of Israel. All of them. War on terror, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen and now Iran.

I guess you could argue that American and Israeli hegemony are one and the same, but the Israeli tail has been wagging the American dog for much of this century and it’s difficult to argue otherwise.

We’re demolishing our relationships with every single ally for ISRAEL.

There is no way the Zionist state is more important to us than South Korea, Japan, European Union and the gulf states combined.

If you can’t see what’s really going on here then you DON’T want to see what’s going on.

USA is a vassal for the Zionist state

 

[ShenJingPoQi]

Yo, Trump

Where is your discombobulator?





People actually believed in that nonsense. Venezuelan generals and military stood down to save their nation from further sanctions, bombardment and economic/financial warfare.

Most likely, even with the stand down orders, Americans used some sort sound/frequency to maximize the awe factor on innocent people and weakened soldiers. There was no actual combustion of the human soldiers.

This war is a major PR loss for America, using primitive methods and 1980s tactics against a sole nation whilst being on the backfoot.

 

[Insensitive]

It's so strange.

I wonder how Zelensky ended up in a war in the first place?


And why do the ukranians have so much knowledge about intercepting shahed drones?

Because they were used as a laboratory to test out the newest military equipment.
Russia and Ukraine is a LABORATORY.

If the Ukraine-Russia war is a proxy war, then it's the worst proxy war ever

In this proxy war, we have:

- a patron state (the U.S.) that forbids its proxy (ukraine) from striking the other patron state within its border (russia)
- a patron state that forbade the proxy from striking oil refineries in the other patron state. And of course, the proxy state said fukk it and did it anyway because they aren't getting support from said patron.
- a patron state that decided not to sell tomahawk missles to their proxy because the other patron state said it would hurt them too much a day before the transaction.
- a patron state that reduced monetary support by 99% because... reasons.
- a patron state that wouldn't sell them missiles that have a range over 250 km, because as mentioned earlier, they believe striking the other patron state within thier borders would be too escalatory
- and lastly, a patron state that has pushed for the proxy state to surrender land that they still control on 4 separate occasions in 2025 alone. But of course this particular position is happening because patron state A (the U.S.) is actually taking patron state B (russia) at face value for a potential deal worth 12 Trillion dollars.

All of this literally means nothing.

Whether or not it's a successful operation doesn't mean it isn't what it is.

This logic literally applies to our first actual entrance into the foray (Iran war).
We're actively fukking up right now.

It's still a war.





You have all gained the powerful ability to ignore reality and bend yourself into nonsensical
positions to try and make points that make no sense.
"We failed in our goals bro, so it can't be a proxy war".
I won't even engage in this goofy ass sophistry, you fukking know it's stupid.

 

[Insensitive]

Also - it's a fukking lie that Ukraine didn't "strike within Russian borders".

This is literally one of the reasons people kept thinking it'd be the start of World War III.

You can look it up, it is literally in print that they shot rockets deep into Russian territory as recently
as last month.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

It's so strange.

I wonder how Zelensky ended up in a war in the first place?

Pretty sure that happened because the Russians invaded shortly after going on tv and claiming that Ukraine belongs to Russia along with their constant declarations that they’re waging a war of imperial conquest in Ukraine