Official War With Iran Thread

[88m3]

Mans really said Trump was elected because of October 7

That is the argument that I see routinely trotted out on here

Did I upset you?

 

[voiture]

Regardless if this is true or not, it can be used by Iran to just start bombing the desalination plants on the rest of the Gulf countries and that would be fukking horrible. @Robbie3000 that chinese teacher spoke on this in his latest video earlier in the week, he keeps getting shyt right

Iran started hitting critical infrastructure but attacking oil refineries in UAE

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

my god, man, at least put some effort in to your hasbara. Your handlers would be disappointed.

Mans really said Trump was elected because of October 7

I think he was referencing Trump.

It was either yesterday or the day before but during that little air force one interview he said something to the effect of "Iran are very bad people, they did October 7th... " Before he started to do the "weave" for the rest of the answer.

 

[Jmare007]

Iran started hitting critical infrastructure but attacking oil refineries in UAE

Not sure I follow this logic. If Iran orchestrated a girls school massacre I sure hope no one would be like "US/Israel started bombing girl's schools first".

The fact is that Iran, while dependent on desalination plants, is a lot less dependent on them than the entire GCC. If they all just start bombing those things there's gonna a water crisis with horrible humanitarian consequences.

 

[Liu Kang]

Sounds like Macron got you taking it hook line and sinker

I mean, has France been invaded since it got its nukes ?


In all seriousness, France did start its nuclear program after the US and the USSR teamed up against it in the Suez crisis in '56. The French and British (and... Israel) were in the wrong because they tried to start a colonial war against Nasser. However Stalin using nuclear threats showed the Soviets (and Americans) had a tangible game changer and France and the UK had to fall back.

 

[42 Monks]

Not sure I follow this logic. If Iran orchestrated a girls school massacre I sure hope no one would be like "US/Israel started bombing girl's schools first".

The fact is that Iran, while dependent on desalination plants, is a lot less dependent on them than the entire GCC. If they all just start bombing those things there's gonna a water crisis with horrible humanitarian consequences.

Tehran's water crisis has been at horrendous levels for over a decade. And it was self inflicted because that government has been objectively more focused on other shyt. There was an effort to prepare to relocate the capital as recently as last year as well

link below from yale, last year - After Ruining a Treasured Water Resource, Iran Is Drying Up

More than international sanctions, more than its stifling theocracy, more than recent bombardment by Israel and the U.S. — Iran’s greatest current existential crisis is what hydrologists are calling its rapidly approaching “water bankruptcy.”

It is a crisis that has a sad origin, they say: the destruction and abandonment of tens of thousands of ancient tunnels for sustainably tapping underground water, known as qanats, that were once the envy of the arid world. But calls for the Iranian government to restore qanats and recharge the underground water reserves that once sustained them are falling on deaf ears.

After a fifth year of extreme drought, Iran’s long-running water crisis reached unprecedented levels in November. The country’s president, Masoud Pezeshkian, warned that Iran had “no choice” but to move its capital away from arid Tehran, which now has a population of about 10 million, to wetter coastal regions — a project that would take decades and has a price estimated by analysts at potentially $100 billion.

i'm sure you can find more info on it too but just make sure its not framed around what happened within a single week lol....

again, one of the biggest problems for Iran in all this is that they're so comfortable with shutting off information streams of anything coming out of the country that they've essentially forfeited the ability to control narratives external to iran. they couldn't even pitch nuclear energy with a straight face while dealing with a water catastrophe

 

[Spidey Man]

An invasion of Iran will make Afghanistan look like a Sunday stroll to the Bodega to grab a soda and chips.

 

[Liu Kang]

You're right, one of the major casualties of this war that not enough people are talking about is the decades of nuclear proliferation diplomacy that has been flushed down the toilet.

The amount of ass kissing and capitulation the next administration will have to endure is going to be on a record scale.

I'll always be convinced that Trump exiting the JCPOA unilaterally triggered most events we're having right now including the Russian invasion. The worst part is that the JCPOA was opposed by American conservatives, Saudis and Israel... and they are the 3 powers that pushed for the current Iran war

IMO the US trust is forever lost no matter the next admin. I don't see how Euros will ever have any confidence in American voters after all the bullshyt Trump and his sycophants did this term. You can't have long term plans when foreign policy can do a 180° every 4 years.

 

[Jmare007]

Tehran's water crisis has been at horrendous levels for over a decade. And it was self inflicted because that government has been objectively more focused on other shyt. There was an effort to prepare to relocate the capital as recently as last year as well

link below from yale, last year - After Ruining a Treasured Water Resource, Iran Is Drying Up



i'm sure you can find more info on it too but just make sure its not framed around what happened within a single week lol....

again, one of the biggest problems for Iran in all this is that they're so comfortable with shutting off information streams of anything coming out of the country that they've essentially forfeited the ability to control narratives external to iran. they couldn't even pitch nuclear energy with a straight face while dealing with a water catastrophe

Oh, I didn't mean that Iran doesn't have a water problem. Just that they haven't been using desalination as a main source for it. It's not like bombing those plants will fukk their water supply to make their problems that much bigger. On the other hand, you start bombing those other countries and their plants and they get fukked.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

 

[Liu Kang]

Did AI Misidentify the Minab School?

What a simple experiment with Claude reveals about AI-assisted targeting

msukhareva.substack.com

This actually makes a lot of sense

We've seen Israel targets non military sites a lot in Gaza but this specific hit in the opening day was very weird unless it was due to bad data. Makes no sense to do it if they trying to rally the Iranian people against the IRGC

 

[88m3]

On the other hand, you start bombing those other countries and their plants and they get fukked.

on the flip side that almost guarantees those countries actually push for escalation and regime change

 

[Jmare007]

on the flip side that almost guarantees those countries actually push for escalation and regime change

Only change escalation brings for them is sending troops to get killed and after years of fighting maybe the regime falls.

And regime chance after a bloody war does not guarantee a transition to something more helpful for anyone. They might end up with another regime that's just as harmful.

In exchange, the GCC lose their luster as hubs and get entrenched in years of conflict.

Iran's gamble seems to be exactly that. Drag anyone close to them to the mud and fukk the consequences.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Not really @88m3 , the FM of Saudi Arabia was just criticizing Israel earlier today. Looks like I have to post in here as well since the pro-war Zionists are trying to takeover the thread. It's pretty clear the U.S. hit the school in Iran. I've seen enough out of that story to say it was likely a U.S. strike. Do I think they purposely did it, maybe not but they are definitely trying to cover it up.

Iran is hitting the GCC countries because those countries were housing American bases and resources. For the most part, you're seeing Iran target bases and equipment. They didn't start hitting the water supply in those countries until U.S./Israel attacked Iran's water supply.

Also, Iran tried to cease hitting the GCC unless attacks continued to emanate from there and that's what happened, now Iran is going to continue hitting them.

 

[King Kreole]

Goes without saying because we live in hell and he will never be held accountable, but Trump's denial of this American war crime is one of the worst statements a President has ever made, and he needs to be impeached, arrested, jailed and ideally executed.