Official War With Iran Thread

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I have a Chinese coworker who said that’s his nickname in China.

“The Great Builder of China” or something

The weird thing about Trump is this: whether you think he’s intentionally undermining U.S. interests or not, a lot of what’s happened ends up looking like that anyway.


  • Going after alliances and institutions (like NATO and other partnerships) that have historically benefited the U.S.
  • Starting trade fights that create instability and push other countries to rely less on us
  • Pulling back on or creating uncertainty around investment in science, tech, and clean energy while China is going full speed ahead
  • Cracking down on immigration in a way that risks weakening one of our biggest advantages, attracting top talent from around the world
  • Injecting politics into key areas tied to long-term competitiveness, like trade and tech
  • Picking or escalating conflicts that strain alliances, shake the global economy, and burn resources we could be using more strategically

The point isn’t even about intent, it’s just that the outcomes often run against what have traditionally been America’s strengths.

And you can apply the same idea politically. If the goal was to hurt a party heading into major elections, you kind of have to ask, would it actually look that different? Like, if a Resistance Lib had mind control over a Republican President ahead of the midterms, what would the Republican President be doing different?


Trump 2.0 has been a movie :wow:
 

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The weird thing about Trump is this: whether you think he’s intentionally undermining U.S. interests or not, a lot of what’s happened ends up looking like that anyway.


  • Going after alliances and institutions (like NATO and other partnerships) that have historically benefited the U.S.
  • Starting trade fights that create instability and push other countries to rely less on us
  • Pulling back on or creating uncertainty around investment in science, tech, and clean energy while China is going full speed ahead
  • Cracking down on immigration in a way that risks weakening one of our biggest advantages, attracting top talent from around the world
  • Injecting politics into key areas tied to long-term competitiveness, like trade and tech
  • Picking or escalating conflicts that strain alliances, shake the global economy, and burn resources we could be using more strategically

The point isn’t even about intent, it’s just that the outcomes often run against what have traditionally been America’s strengths.

And you can apply the same idea politically. If the goal was to hurt a party heading into major elections, you kind of have to ask, would it actually look that different? Like, if a Resistance Lib had mind control over a Republican President ahead of the midterms, what would the Republican President be doing different?


Trump 2.0 has been a movie :wow:
I think what shocks me is the capital class seems okay with this.
 

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The weird thing about Trump is this: whether you think he’s intentionally undermining U.S. interests or not, a lot of what’s happened ends up looking like that anyway.


  • Going after alliances and institutions (like NATO and other partnerships) that have historically benefited the U.S.
  • Starting trade fights that create instability and push other countries to rely less on us
  • Pulling back on or creating uncertainty around investment in science, tech, and clean energy while China is going full speed ahead
  • Cracking down on immigration in a way that risks weakening one of our biggest advantages, attracting top talent from around the world
  • Injecting politics into key areas tied to long-term competitiveness, like trade and tech
  • Picking or escalating conflicts that strain alliances, shake the global economy, and burn resources we could be using more strategically

The point isn’t even about intent, it’s just that the outcomes often run against what have traditionally been America’s strengths.

And you can apply the same idea politically. If the goal was to hurt a party heading into major elections, you kind of have to ask, would it actually look that different? Like, if a Resistance Lib had mind control over a Republican President ahead of the midterms, what would the Republican President be doing different?


Trump 2.0 has been a movie :wow:

I really believe Ukraine was the type of red line that would have Putin out for this level of revenge. These moves are fully benefitting him and Xi. It’s theory obviously, but I’m just too suspicious.
 

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My dyslexia must be getting worse because I could have sworn I read that they were sending 2500 troops to the Middle East a couples days ago.




My memory maybe waning a bit as well, I thought I heard trump say that the war in Iran is done a couple days ago.

I thought the nuclear program was obliterated months ago. Maybe they want to triple tap the obliterated program in the not war that was won already.
 

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you know things are really going to pot when the Russia good narrative starts hitting unprompted

take note
I can have a living elephant delivered to my house next day by Amazon Prime while Putin has cut off the internet for Russians because Ukraine is constantly blowing up their oil refineries.

America has truly fallen. Will these liberal conveniences ever cease to plague us?
 
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