Official War With Iran Thread

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The 10 point plan Iran submitted

1. The U.S. must fundamentally commit to guaranteeing non-aggression.
2. Continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz.
3. Acceptance that Iran can enrich uranium for its nuclear program
4. Removal of all primary sanctions on Iran.
5. Removal of all secondary sanctions against foreign entities that do business with Iranian institutions).
6. End of all United Security Council resolutions targeting Iran.
7. End of all International Atomic Energy Agency resolutions on Iran’s nuclear program.
8. Compensation payment to Iran for war damage.
9. Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region.
10. Cease-fire on all fronts, including Israel’s conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
 

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The idiot thinks he did us a favor. Ppl lost their lives and nothing was accomplished. They didn't need a ceasefire when there wasn't any fire beforehand
We are in a worse position:

The US has shown it can't protect the Gulf states

It's shown it doesn't have a military to fight asymmetric

Iran will now put a toll on the Strait of Hormuz

The Islamic Government is in a stronger position


And I am sure I missed others
 

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This is cope.

One thing that can be settled after all of this is if October 7th happened under Trump’s watch Israel would be completely unrestrained.

Trump wouldn’t have handled the genocide better, that we all should be able to agree on now.

So your point is that had a narcissistic psychopath been in charge, the genocide would not have been any better.

Trump might literally be the worst individual who has ever inhabited the Oval Office. It is not a compliment to anyone to say that they did as good a job as he would have done.
 

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So your point is that had a narcissistic psychopath been in charge, the genocide would not have been any better.

Trump might literally be the worst individual who has ever inhabited the Oval Office. It is not a compliment to anyone to say that they did as good a job as he would have done.
My point is that things would have been worse with Trump in charge. A lot of the apathy that allowed Trump to win in 2024 was the claim that he would be better for the Middle East

Some of our best and brightest posters claimed vindication on Jan 2025
 

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My point is that things would have been worse with Trump in charge. A lot of the apathy that allowed Trump to win in 2024 was the claim that he would be better for the Middle East

Some of our best and brightest posters claimed vindication on Jan 2025
I read this and only thing I'm thinking is that Joe Biden administration was was so bad on foreign policy that they're being compared to Trump whose one of the worst presidents of all time.
 

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The 10 point plan Iran submitted

1. The U.S. must fundamentally commit to guaranteeing non-aggression.
2. Continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz.
3. Acceptance that Iran can enrich uranium for its nuclear program
4. Removal of all primary sanctions on Iran.
5. Removal of all secondary sanctions against foreign entities that do business with Iranian institutions).
6. End of all United Security Council resolutions targeting Iran.
7. End of all International Atomic Energy Agency resolutions on Iran’s nuclear program.
8. Compensation payment to Iran for war damage.
9. Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region.
10. Cease-fire on all fronts, including Israel’s conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon.
:dwillhuh: this quite possibly a worse deal than what he ripped up from Obama.
 

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Trump wants 200 billion for his war. All he did was kill an old man and replace him with his son, create the worst energy crisis in history and practically guarantee Iran has nuclear weapons by 2030. That's not even talking about shooting NATO in the back and giving China the blueprint for taking Taiwan. Once China blockades Taiwan and they cut off all rare earths and semi conductors we'll get a new great depression to add to his accomplishments along with the pandemic, his surrender to the Taliban and Jan 6. If this were the 60s, the CIA would have him assassinated.
 
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