Oh yeah we're repeating brehs...2012 NY Giants season thread

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Diehl not going nowhere. Wouldn't be surprised if he plays all season and we just eat the L's

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It was only but for so long we could have an elite oline. I knew this day would come eventually. Eventually the dline will go too. Then we're completely fukked.
 

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And Diehl had a bad year last year, too.

That 49ers game :sadcam: oline got rocked .

On to the secondary hosley and Coe this week? Sounds like it prince too maybe :takedat: and Marvin. Austin :lawd: no way a healthy defense ??
 

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That 49ers game :sadcam: oline got rocked .

On to the secondary hosley and Coe this week? Sounds like it prince too maybe :takedat: and Marvin. Austin :lawd: no way a healthy defense ??
You know I actually meant to say SNEE had a bad season last year in that text.

Diehl's been bad for a couple years now.
 

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It was only but for so long we could have an elite oline. I knew this day would come eventually. Eventually the dline will go too. Then we're completely fukked.

JPP only in year 3..Austin aint even touch the field yet. Don't predict the demise of the D-Line yet. :youngsabo:
 

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You know I actually meant to say SNEE had a bad season last year in that text.

Diehl's been bad for a couple years now.

I was going to comment that Diehl has been shytty for awhile but yeah Snee looks like he's declining aswell.
 

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JPP only in year 3..Austin aint even touch the field yet. Don't predict the demise of the D-Line yet. :youngsabo:

You know he just itching for a huge payday. Tuck coming up at the end of the next year, plus he's gonna be in his 30s.

As for the Oline, we still got Snee for another 3 years :scusthov:
 

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yeah diehl has been ass. i would move em back to a guard position but honestly booth has been pretty decent since becoming a starter. bass is soft as fukk. that niner game pissed me off last year, hes forever on my shyt list. we just have to hope beatty can at the very least turn into a starting caliber tackle or else we are fukked.
 

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For the majority of the New York Giants' rich, 87-year-long history, they have played like a hard-nosed football team. And I’m not talking about a baseless, self-proclaimed “ground-and-pound” team like Rex Ryan’s Jets—instead, the Giants have historically been a team that proves its tough running style of play on Sundays, keeping the off-field chatter to a minimum.

The 2011 season was an exception, though. New York won its fourth Super Bowl last season despite the fact that they had the league’s worst rushing offense.

While Super Bowl XLVI was a tremendous victory for both the organization and the entire New York Giants fan base, it also veiled the team’s most crippling deficiency: the insufficient play of the offensive line.


New York Giants Offensive Line: A Long-Ignored Dilemma | Bleacher Report
 

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You know I actually meant to say SNEE had a bad season last year in that text.

Diehl's been bad for a couple years now.

Lol that's true but snee is the best we got I'm hoping he bounces back:sadbron: but baas looks like shrek
And makes me sick with his stupid face
 

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To assess their chances, I consulted the NFL's Game Rewind app, which this year offers users the chance to watch the "All 22" coaches film and see where everybody goes on every play. Pretty useful stuff that should offer plenty of chances for great blog fodder as the year goes along. Here are a few things I learned about the Giants' run game watching it today.
Of the 19 run plays the Giants ran against the Cowboys in last Wednesday's opener, 11 went to the left side, seven to the right side and one up the middle (Ahmad Bradshaw's 5-yarder on 3rd-and-16 to end the first half).


Of those 19 run plays, 11 were on first down, five were on second down, two on third and one on fourth. Bradshaw's biggest run was a 33-yarder on 3rd-and-1 that was a very well blocked play to the side of the line on which the Giants did not have extra blockers. More on that in a second.
Bradshaw ran the ball 17 times. Rookie David Wilson ran it twice, and not at all after fumbling on his second carry. No other Giants running back got a carry in the game.

Of the 19 runs, 13 were run to the side of the line on which tight end Martellus Bennett was lined up. That includes the first 10 Giants running plays of the game. The first time Bradshaw runs to the side on which Bennett is not lined up is a 2-yard gain to the right side in the second quarter, and on that play tackle Will Beatty was in the game on the right side as an eligible tight end. The play is basically stopped immediately by Anthony Spencer when he gets off the block of Beatty.

Right tackle David Diehl had a rough game against Dallas defensive end Jason Hatcher. On the final play of the first half, the Cowboys have only three men on the line and Bradshaw gets the ball and runs right up the middle, but Diehl can't handle Hatcher, who brings Bradshaw down before he can get loose. Not that they were trying to do anything special there, but you never know.

There are times when Bradshaw shows indecisiveness and a lack of burst that costs him. The play just before the Wilson fumble is a 1st-and-10 on which Bennett motions to the right and Bradshaw runs that way. There appears to be a hole between Bennett and Diehl on that right side, but Bradshaw is unable to slip through before it closes. That play looked like one on which Bradshaw could have gained more. There's also a 1st-and-10 in the fourth quarter on which he's running to the right side, where Bennett and fellow tight end Bear Pascoe are both lined up, and he seems to have a brief opportunity to turn upfield quickly before Bruce Carter fills the gap and brings him down.

Once they started running away from Bennett's side, the Giants actually had more success. I don't know if this is because Dallas was devoting extra attention to Bennett's side (which would make sense, after the Giants ran their first 10 plays to Bennett's side) or if it's a matter of Dallas focusing more energy on pass defense once they had the lead. But Bennett is on the right side when Bradshaw runs left for a 10-yard touchdown to the left. The touchdown is a very well-blocked play that involves no tight ends. Left guard Kevin Boothe shoves the defensive lineman inside and then blocks Sean Lee. Left tackle Sean Locklear takes care of his man. Fullback Henry Hynoski, lined up in front of Bradshaw in the backfield, swings over and makes his block. Hakeem Nicks is trying to make a block near the goal line as Bradshaw jukes the defensive back and slips into the end zone. Good play all-around, and without extra blockers on that side.

The other very well-blocked play is Bradshaw's 33-yard run to the right in the fourth quarter. Bennett is lined up on the left side on that play, and Dallas is committing most of its defense to that side. But Diehl blocks his man while right guard Chris Snee gets out and makes a very nice block on DeMarcus Ware to spring Bradshaw for the one big gain of the day in the run game.

I need to make special note of the Wilson fumble play, which is all Sean Lee. The Giants load up on the left side with Bennett and Hynoski, and they get everybody blocked and make a nice little bubble for Wilson on that left side. But Lee, who is lined up as the far-side inside linebacker on that play (i.e., the side away from the side to which the play is run), makes an incredible quick and instinctive jump on the ball, slips past all of the engaged blockers and defenders and closes on Wilson with remarkable speed. Wilson of course needs to hold onto the ball, but he is completely blindsided on a brilliant play by a player who got there much quicker than anyone on the field could have had reason to expect him to.

In conclusion, Ahmad may be :flabbynsick:. Breaking down the Giants' run game - Giants Blog - ESPN New York


T2 had ACL surgery again.

Giants' Terrell Thomas undergoes his third ACL surgery | NJ.com

Sorry it happened to him but I never liked him as a CB. :manny:
 
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