Ok 😒 this “everyone in history that was important was secretly black” stuff got to stop we looking crazy “Columbas was a black moor” 😒

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“Q-M3 and Q-Z780 are the two main Y-chromosome founding lineages of Native Americans.”


(BMC Biology volume 17, Article number: 3 (2019) - Analysis of the human Y-chromosome haplogroup Q characterizes ancient population movements in Eurasia and the Americas)


“All Native American mtDNA can be traced back to five Haplogroups called A, B, C, D, and X. More specifically, Native American mtDNA belongs to sub-haplogroups that are unique to the Americas and not found in Asia or Europe: A2, B2, C1, D1, and X2a (with minor groups C4c, D2, D3, and D4h3)”



"We have analyzed the African-American population as the outcome of admixture only between African and European sources, and we have not considered Native-American or other sources. Genomic studies generally find that the Native-American contribution is small (Bryc et al. 2015; Baharian et al. 2016), 3% or less, and that the distribution across African-Americans of the Native-American ancestry component is more difficult to accurately estimate than the African and European contributions. With a model that includes the Native-American contributions as a third source, the distribution of the number of Native-American ancestors could potentially be estimated. Attribution of a small portion of genetic ancestry to Native-American sources would decrease genetic ancestry slightly for both Africans and Europeans, so that some of the African and European ancestors in the model would be replaced by Native-American ancestors."


“Thirteen of the 18 haplogroups previously observed in African populations were observed in the African American populations: L1a, L1b, L1c, L2a, L2b, L2c, L3b, L3d, L3e1, L3e2, L3e3, L3e4, and L3f”



“In this context, the Dominican Republic is in line with the observations from other Caribbean and non-Caribbean American regions. All the mtDNA African lineages account for 61% of the maternal haplogroups, with the most frequent mtDNA lineages being the sub-Saharan L1c, L2a, L3b, and L3d, all reaching frequencies higher than 10%."



"The inheritance of genetic disease depends on ancestry that must be considered when interpreting genetic association studies and can provide insights when comparing traits in a population. We compared the genetic profiles of African Americans with sickle cell disease to those of Black Africans and Caucasian populations of European descent and found that they are less genetically admixed than other African Americans and have an ancestry similar to Yorubans, Mandenkas and Bantu."



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In 1641, Massachusetts became the first colony to authorize slavery through enacted law

In 1654, John Casor, a black indentured servant in colonial Virginia, was the first man to be declared a slave in a civil case

During most of the British colonial period, slavery existed in all the colonies. In 1703, more than 42 percent of New York City households held slaves

In South Carolina in 1720, about 65% of the population consisted of enslaved people

In 1735, the Georgia Trustees enacted a law to prohibit slavery in the new colony.

In most regions, during the colonial period when Africans were adapting their cultural patterns to the new environment, they like other people coming to America before 1750 were less likely to be of diverse origins (Eltis et al 2001; Walsh 2001). However, over time people from different regions of Africa arrived, which resulted in the mixing of peoples. Based upon these findings as well as recent archeology of African American sites from the colonial period, historical interpretations of colonial life among Africans need to revisit notions of Africans being unable to communicate with one another, or being randomly distributed in the colonies
NPS Ethnography: African American Heritage & Ethnography

The United States Constitution, adopted in 1787, prevented Congress from completely banning the importation of slaves until 1808, although Congress regulated it in the Slave Trade Act of 1794, and in subsequent Acts in 1800 and 1803.[60] After the Revolution, numerous states individually passed laws against importing slaves. By contrast, the states of Georgia and South Carolina reopened their trade due to demand by their upland planters, who were developing new cotton plantations: Georgia from 1800 until December 31, 1807, and South Carolina from 1804. In that period, Charleston traders imported about 75,000 slaves, more than were brought to South Carolina in the 75 years before the Revolution.[106] Approximately 30,000 were imported to Georgia.

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These Maps Reveal How Slavery Expanded Across the United States | History | Smithsonian Magazine

250,000 new slaves arrived in the United States from 1787 to 1808, a number equal to the entire slave importation of the colonial period.

Throughout the 18th century, approximately three quarters of the Africans arriving in the Upper Chesapeake as well as in the region around the lower James River came from the upper parts of the West African coast, from Senagambia on the north to the Windward and Gold Coasts, an area which included present day Senegal down along the coast ending in the area of present day Ghana (Walsh 2001:31). Most Africans arrived in the lower James area by way of the intra-Atlantic coastal slave trade from the West Indies, which probably accounts for ethnic diversity of Africans enslaved there.

Tobacco Plantations (established in the 1600's)
Rice Plantations (established in the 1700's)
Indigo Plantations (established in the 1700's)
Cotton Plantations (established in the 1800's)
Sugar Plantations (established in the 1800's)

Fewer than 350,000 enslaved people were imported into the Thirteen Colonies and the U.S, constituting less than 5% of all slaves imported from Africa.

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cotton was not grown on Southern plantations until 1793

So the large importation of Angolans where late in the 17th Century to lower South Carolina & Georgia, because of King Cotton. This is already late in the game to have a "large affect" on established African American slaves and culture. Slavery would end only 70 years later.

The number of enslaved people in the US grew rapidly, reaching 4 million by the 1860 Census. From 1770 until 1860, the rate of natural growth of North American enslaved people was much greater than for the population of any nation in Europe, and it was nearly twice as rapid as that of England

In 1763 when France ceded Louisiana to the Spanish there were 46,000 African people enslaved there as compared to 36,500 free persons, mostly white (Hall: 1992:29–55). Most of these Africans came from points north of the Windward Coast and many had originally disembarked in St. Domingue (Hall, 1992). As high as these population data seem, the majority of all Africans imported in North America during the colonial period were enslaved in the Chesapeake and Low Country regions. Read more about people enslaved in French America. North of the Windward Coast is in the general area of the Sahel.
 

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Ancestry Composition of African Americans:

Where did most of the West-Central Africans brought over to the US came from and from which parts of the US were they sent?

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Get a life.

Get an identity.

Get away.
"Based on our analysis of Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database records, we estimate that, between AD 1700 to 1810, a total of 174,793 recorded individuals were abducted from ports in the upper and lower regions of the West African coast (Senegal to Nigeria), the West-Central African coast (Cameroon to Angola), and, to a lesser degree, Mozambique in Southeast Africa, and disembarked in Charleston (Fig. 1A and Dataset S1). When analyzed by region, almost one-third of these individuals (27.4%) came from ports located in West-Central Africa and St. Helena, with approximately half (47.35%) embarking from ports in West Africa (Fig. 1B and Dataset S1)."

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Black Americans are primarily West-Central African Genetically, that is what the actual data says.

"Native Americans" and "Pacific Blacks" are genetically DISTANT from Both Black Americans/Diasporians and Africans.

There is no "Confusing" Native American (or Melanesian) DNA with, African/Black American DNA.

If we came about from "Non Africans", it would show up in the genetics, it DOES NOT.

Once again:
There is no "Confusing" Native American (or Melanesian) DNA with, African/Black American DNA.

We genetically cluster with Africans, because our population is on average 80% genetically African.

If we came from "Native Americans"(Or Melanesians) we would NOT Cluster with Africans at all, but we do.

The average modern "White Person" is "genetically closer/More related" to Black Africans and Black Americans, than "Native Americans" or Melanesian.
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Oh ok...I thought you were a pretendian 🤣. A lot of the info you supplying, pretendians will take it and twist it to fit their narrative.
 
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The issue you will run into is how Every Single Black American/AA genetically tested, has West Central African DNA.
And none of the Melanesians tested have West-Central African DNA.

And even the modern Native Americans genetically tested, if they have any "Non-Native-American" DNA, it is either "European" or West-Central African, due to mixing with both populations "Post Columbus".

Black Americans take DNA tests all the time, we have ALL been told we "Have Cherokee In Our Family", but when we are tested most of us DO NOT.

"Native American" and by extension, "Aboriginal American" DNA, would be very GENETICALLY DISTANT from African populations.

We would NOT genetically cluster with Africans
, but with other "Non Africans" and especially ones that are 40,000+ years, Genetically separated from the original "Out Of Africa" population.

Yet we find that we are on average 80% "West-Central African".

It was oral history that our family had Native American. Took the DNA test...im 97% african with 3% european! Just because grandma had long hair...
 

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It was oral history that our family had Native American. Took the DNA test...im 97% african with 3% european! Just because grandma had long hair...

I was told the same thing "Cherokee Ancestor" "Full Blooded Indian Grandmother".

We took DNA tests, 85% Central-West African, NOT A SINGLE DROP of "Native American" DNA.

Was actually able to track down family that we lost contact with, and they also had mostly West-Central African DNA and ZERO "Native American" DNA
 

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I was told the same thing "Cherokee Ancestor" "Full Blooded Indian Grandmother".

We took DNA tests, 85% Central-West African, NOT A SINGLE DROP of "Native American" DNA.

Was actually able to track down family that we lost contact with, and they also had mostly West-Central African DNA and ZERO "Native American" DNA

And the hoops people such as @tuckgod have to jump thru to avoid being African. Guarantee he and every other pretendian will state they don't accept DNA.

But will listen to grandma who thought thunder was the devil beating his wife 🤣.
 

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Oh ok...I thought you were a pretendian 🤣. A lot of the info you supplying, pretendians will take it and twist it to fit their narrative.

No,

I've been very clear in multiple posts on this site, that Black Americans are primary West-Central African Genetically.

My introduction to the "Conscious Community" were people like Diop, John Henrik Clarke, Chancellor Williams Etc...

I knew from early on, we are of African Origin.

Not a single moment in my 30+ years of research did I assume/think we (Black Americans) were "Native American" or "Non African".

I'm from the "Older Conscious Community" where you ACTUALLY had to have evidence for the positions you put forth, not just "Pictures".

Most people arguing about these topics conflate a lot of things together, and the general "Arguments" get lumped-in together.
 
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nikkas on the internet have claimed to be the first everything. Egyptians, Native Americans, Europeans, Samurais, Saiyans etc. You can't even tell what's actual fact from fiction now. :mjlol:

The original Kemetic people (Egyptians) were Black Africans.

The culture of Kemet was originally Nubian culture. The Kemetic culture was not taken from anywhere outside of Africa.

"...The discovery is expected to stimulate a new appraisal of the origins of civilization in Africa, raising the question of to what extent later Egyptian culture may have derived its advanced political structure from the Nubians. The various symbols of Nubian royalty that have been found are the same as those associated, in later times, with Egyptian kings.

The new findings suggest that the ancient Nubians may have reached this stage of political development as long ago as 3300 B.C., several generations before the earliest documented Egyptian king
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and

Theodorus, Strabo, Herodotus, and plenty of other Greeks who were interacting with Egyptians described them as darkskin people with woolly hair. Those are first hand accounts.

And Egypt was ancient around the time of the Greco-Roman occupation as well.

and, before anyone starts quoting me with the Max Plank study from 2017. Those were Greeks.

And the study that was recently published this year only took an analysis from one North African country, and all other analyses were taken from Eurasian countries, no other Continental African countries. This was done purposely.
 

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nikkas on the internet have claimed to be the first everything. Egyptians, Native Americans, Europeans, Samurais, Saiyans etc. You can't even tell what's actual fact from fiction now. :mjlol:
It depends on who you refer to as the direct descendants....

I’ve been to the Cairo museum in Egypt, and literally stood in front of king Tut’s throne.





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"Many of the sites reveal evidence of important interactions between Nilotic and Saharan groups during the formative phases of the Egyptian Predynastic Period (e.g. Wadi el-Hôl, Rayayna, Nuq’ Menih, Kurkur Oasis). Other sites preserve important information regarding the use of the desert routes during the Protodynastic and Pharaonic Periods, particularly during periods of political and military turmoil in the Nile Valley (e.g. Gebel Tjauti, Wadi el-Hôl)."


(Yale University Department of Egyptology, Theban Desert Road Survey and Yale Toshka Desert Survey)



“There is now a sufficient body of evidence from modern studies of skeletal remains to indicate that the ancient Egyptians, especially southern Egyptians, exhibited physical characteristics that are within the range of variation for ancient and modern indigenous peoples of the Sahara and tropical Africa.

In general, the inhabitants of Upper Egypt and Nubia had the greatest biological affinity to people of the Sahara and more southerly areas
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Any interpretation of the biological affinities of the ancient Egyptians must be placed in the context of hypothesis informed by the archaeological, linguistic, geographic or other data.

In this context the physical anthropological evidence indicates that the early Nile Valley populations can be identified as part of an African lineage, but exhibiting local variation.

This variation represents the short and long term effects of evolutionary forces, such as gene flow, genetic drift, and natural selection influenced by culture and geography"


(Kathryn A. Bard Egyptians; physical anthropology of Physical anthropology).


"Ancient Egypt belongs to a language group known as 'Afroasiatic' (formerly called Hamito-Semitic) and its closest relatives are other north-east African languages from Somalia to Chad. Egypt's cultural features, both material and ideological and particularly in the earliest phases, show clear connections with that same broad area. In sum, ancient Egypt was an African culture, developed by African peoples, who had wide ranging contacts in north Africa and western Asia.”

[..] (p. 10)

"The ancient Egyptians were not 'white' in any European sense, nor were they 'Caucasian'... we can say that the earliest population of ancient Egypt included African people from the upper Nile, African people from the regions of the Sahara and modern Libya, and smaller numbers of people who had come from south-western Asia and perhaps the Arabian penisula."

(Morkot, Robert (2005) The Egyptians: An Introduction. (pp. 12-13))
 

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The original Kemetic people (Egyptians) were Black Africans.

The culture of Kemet was originally Nubian culture. The Kemetic culture was not taken from anywhere outside of Africa.

"...The discovery is expected to stimulate a new appraisal of the origins of civilization in Africa, raising the question of to what extent later Egyptian culture may have derived its advanced political structure from the Nubians. The various symbols of Nubian royalty that have been found are the same as those associated, in later times, with Egyptian kings.

The new findings suggest that the ancient Nubians may have reached this stage of political development as long ago as 3300 B.C., several generations before the earliest documented Egyptian king
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and



and, before anyone starts quoting me with the Max Plank study from 2017. Those were Greeks.

And the study that was recently published this year only took an analysis from one North African country, and all other analyses were taken from Eurasian countries, no other Continental African countries. This was done purposely.


Even before the people who later became the "Egyptians" AKA "Kemites" came to "Nubia" before Dynastic Egypt,
their population lived in the "Green Sahara" were the Ancestors of Most "Black Africans" lived.

Ancient Egyptians (and Other Nile Valley Africans), were (primarily) Indigenous Black Africans, with origins in the "Green Sahara" and "Nubia".

That is what all the actual data/evidence shows.

They worked daily from sun-up to sun-down, Naked and Near-Naked with next to ZERO Sun Protection(For THOUSANDS OF YEARS),
in regions with Up to a UV-INDEX of 11.

"White Skin" starts to burn with anything over a UV Index of 2.

"Non Black" Ancient Egyptians(authentic non later foreign admixed population) are a Geographic, Historical and Biological Impossibility.
 
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“Ancient finds in the Western Desert of Egypt at Gebel Ramlah circa 5,000 BC show culture closely linked with indigenous tropical Africans of both the Saharan and sub-Saharan regions, not Europe or the Middle East. Dental studies put the inhabitants of Gebel Ramlah, closest to indigenous tropical African populations.”

(Michal Kobusiewicz, Joel D. Irish et al., Burial practices of the Final Neolithic pastoralists at Gebel Ramlah, Western Desert of Egypt, Gebel Ramlah—a Unique Newborns’ Cemetery of the Neolithic Sahara (2009, 2018))



“Post-Pleistocene climatic improvement in the Northern Hemisphere after ca. 9550 BC allowed human populations to recolonize large parts of North Africa in what is today the Sahara Desert. In the Egyptian Western Desert, the beginnings of human occupation date as early as ca. 9300 BC.
[…]
Between 4500 and 4300 BC, south-western fringes of the Gebel Ramlah lake served as an extended burial ground for different populations. Different ancestry and relationships of these populations can be followed on the basis of archaeological and, partially, bioarchaeological arguments.
[…]
Some groups (using cemeteries E-01-2, E-03-1, E-03-2, and E-09-4) show some affiliation with sub-Saharan Africans, readable in the pottery assemblage and other grave goods, as well as some morphological features “


(Irish 2010; Kobusiewicz and Kabaciński 2010; Czekaj-Zastawny and Kabaciński 2015).


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"In the Rayayna Desert we have evidence of ossuary burials, and similar interrments are also known from Gebel Ramlah (between Nabta Playa and the southern Sinn el-Kiddab).28 The burial practices at Nuq‘ Maneih contribute to our suspicions — aroused by our work at Rayayna — that the desert communities along the Darb Gallaba/Darb Bitân route disinterred those who had died during preceding years’ treks, and brought the skeletized and dismembered bodies to major centers for burial. The practice of ossuary burial connects the Rayayna, Nabta, and Nuq‘ Maneih groups.”

The Archaeology of Kurkur Oasis, Nuq‘ Maneih, and the Sinn el-Kiddab





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Can't believe we still having these debates.

The Egyptians which is their Arabic name were black and proud. They even talked about it in their literature and majority of the Pharaohs if you utilize their original naming convention, can be traced to their African ancestry such as Congo etc.

Africans were already in Americas for thousands of years prior to Columbus and it is recorded throughout history. There is a theme to erase this knowledge but if you understand Aztec, Mayan, Hopi Indians history the similarities to praise, God and practices can't be denied of African influence.

Who do you think build the Pyramids Americas it wasn't no damn Indians.

The Indians you see in Americas today are a mixture of Mongolian who invaded from the northwest during Genghis Khan invasion days. These individuals mated with the tribes of people who were here prior to their coming.

The oldest Copper Mine is in the Great Lakes (dating 6k plus years) and the only civilization who was able to utilize that Copper at the time was African nations and Middle Eastern nations.

Oceans were much lower in those times as well which allowed easy travels amongst continents.

I mean I can go deeper but this shyt can be read in books. People have to read man.

Majority of the European scholars/religious leaders even stated during their time coming to Americas of the African influence of these two shared continents.

How do you think Europe learned of the Americas?? Columbus knew where he was going.
 

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I would like to add that Europe was dominated by Africans prior to the rise of Europeans in that specific area. Remember Roman empire didn't fukk with other whites who were coming to Europe by the dozens from the mountains and Asia. Romans stated that they are children of Egypt Africa and look down upon the Franks, Goths, Vogals etc. People forget that Zeus and all the Greek gods etc.. were from Ethiopia (This could mean Africa and not the country we know as Ethiopia today)

Whites in power in Europe is a new concept.
 
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