Old heads, back in 97 when you heard "Long Kiss Goodnight" for the first time...

Piff Perkins

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Spoke loudly of BIGs character after being quiet as mouse whizzing on cotton whilst Pac was living...
The verse was wild but to be fair Big was saying shyt while Pac was alive too. Just nothing that flagrant. On wax I think even Pac fans would agree he was the main one antagonizing, while Big stuck to subs or slick shyt in interviews. Long Kiss was a sub too so even though it was wild in context I can't say Big was church mouse quiet until the death. I know you aren't making this argument but it reminds me of the "Big was a saint, did nothing wrong and didn't say anything about that man" shyt you see from certain Biggie stans. Nah he was saying shyt alright...
 

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I was having this convo last week with someone. A LOT of rap songs I knew verbatim from like age 9 to 16....I didnt know what the fukk they were talking about. I knew the words..but at times that was it.

From certain regional slang to cultural references I was too young to understand. It's a trip to go back and listen with adult knowledgeable ears now.

I was the same way wit Wu Lyrics,namely the 5%er/Numerology stuff,U-God's Book really tied a Bow on it all too
 

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I was the same way wit Wu Lyrics,namely the 5%er/Numerology stuff,U-God's Book really tied a Bow on it all too
especially the WU! I'm from the south...so at the time I knew nothing of 5 percenter talk, knowledge of self etc.....so I knew the words but I ain't know what the fukk they were talking about...I just knew I liked it and they could rap to me. As a kid..that was enough for me.
 

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There has never been a record or interview with Suge or Pac dissing Wolf, when they knew hè was the one to deal with. I always wonder why , because hè definitly held Puff and Big down.
 

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My Downfall>>>>
And I didnt see it as a Diss at 14 until a bit later on cause I didnt see that or any song on that album as a DR Diss Fest,nevermind Nas,Jeru etc

I loved that 2nd Half of Disc 2(starting with Sky's The Limit)
I always thought the 2nd disc is what made LAD a masterpiece.
 

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Pac should’ve came back to NY and addressed Big face-to-face if it was an issue, instead of hiding out West and taking it to the studio
To add on, Pac knew who shot him & why not too long after it happened. He was using the situation to his advantage while being used by Suge for his agenda against Puff

And my real time reaction to that song was something like: Oh shyt! lol One of the best diss tracks ever recorded
 

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Unpopular opinion…B.I.G. Verse from this goes waaaaaaaaaaay harder over the beat with Mobb Deep from the Biggie Duets album

i used to think that, but as i grew older and understood rhythm and bounce, RZA's beat has Biggie floating. I have no doubt that Biggie would have ripped Havoc's if he was alive and came up with something different






NOWWW staying on topic, i like Havoc's beat for "Beef" more than the original that Biggie rhymed on, that i'll rock with
 

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Pac should’ve came back to NY and addressed Big face-to-face if it was an issue, instead of hiding out West and taking it to the studio
Pac was only alive 9 months after he was released. Biggie and Puffy shouldn't have thrown rocks and ducked whenever they could.
 

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nikkaS TALK A LOT OF shyt
BUT THATS AFTER IM GONE
CAUSE THEY FEAR ME IN THE PHYSICAL FORM
 
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