Debut album.
Old heads, is it true Reasonable Doubt...
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Don't compare 1994 to 1996 that's kind of retarded. 1994 was pretty much the beginning of this rap generation. By 1996 it grew a lot..
He was talking about Illmatic.
And it's not "retarded". Snoop went platinum in a year before 1994, BTNH sold 6m just a few months into 95 a year after.
Illmatic didn't "flop" because it was 94, it was because no one gave a fukk which shocked people. Without the 5 mics-tag who know how bad it would've gone. For all we know his debut might've sold less if Illmatic dropped in 96. More in 93. Who the fukk knows, but singles was a big thing back then and his singles flopped.
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Just compare the two albums from 1996.
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avon barksdale
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People besides new York thought that was a foxy brown song...and they only played that song because it was on the nutty professor soundtrack and it was a big movie at the time..just like touch me tease me by case
You usually compare debut albums since they have special features, so you can compare people over time and whatnot.
If you compare Kendrick and Nas do you say, we can only compare Life is good and GKMC? What if RD had dropped 4 months later would it be a fundamentally different album?
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Jay and RD really had a slow, burning build-up in '96.
The major label affiliates - Bad Boy, Loud, Death Row, LaFace, Def Jam - were dominant then, with
Jay, Dame and Biggs launching through indie distribution. Indie gave more profits but the majors
controlled radio, retail and video for faster launching.
They did indie deals with Patrick Moxey and Will Socolov before moving to Def Jam to get major
label backing.
'96 had so much going on from so many different locations: NYC, LA, Atlanta, Cleveland. Even NJ
repped with The Fugees.
For older, older heads, many could not get over that Jay was in the "Hawaiian Sophie" video in
the 80s. He was underground grouped with Big L, who many older heads favored over him, Mic Geronimo,
and Ja Rule coming out of the Cash Money Click.
From September '96 on, the whole industry was in a fog over Tupac's death. The "I Ain't Mad At Cha"
song and video was all over the place.
We forget that Pac was a native New Yorker with deep roots. Huge memorial for him at Mosque No. 7
in Harlem at the time.
The major label affiliates - Bad Boy, Loud, Death Row, LaFace, Def Jam - were dominant then, with
Jay, Dame and Biggs launching through indie distribution. Indie gave more profits but the majors
controlled radio, retail and video for faster launching.
They did indie deals with Patrick Moxey and Will Socolov before moving to Def Jam to get major
label backing.
'96 had so much going on from so many different locations: NYC, LA, Atlanta, Cleveland. Even NJ
repped with The Fugees.
For older, older heads, many could not get over that Jay was in the "Hawaiian Sophie" video in
the 80s. He was underground grouped with Big L, who many older heads favored over him, Mic Geronimo,
and Ja Rule coming out of the Cash Money Click.
From September '96 on, the whole industry was in a fog over Tupac's death. The "I Ain't Mad At Cha"
song and video was all over the place.
We forget that Pac was a native New Yorker with deep roots. Huge memorial for him at Mosque No. 7
in Harlem at the time.
I'm comparing Kendrick to whoever came out THAT YEAR.. If RD dropped later it would be volume 1... People usually scrap old music.. starts to sound dated..You usually compare debut albums since they have special features, so you can compare people over time and whatnot.
If you compare Kendrick and Nas do you say, we can only compare Life is good and GKMC? What if RD had dropped 4 months later would it be a fundamentally different album?
nikkas saying you had to know Jayz because Aint No nikka was on Radio,plus his video was in rotation....everybody already acknowledged they knew who Foxy brown was,do yall know every nikka in the video with a bigger star.....do yall know every nikka who got a song on the radio
Is it better to say you might have seen that man but he was a afterthought,and you didnt give a damn who he was based on Aint No nikka
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Is it better to say you might have seen that man but he was a afterthought,and you didnt give a damn who he was based on Aint No nikka
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I'm not from new York.
only got play because of the nutty professor? there were at least 5, technically at least 6 songs with videos from that soundtrack. can you name all of em?
so you thought it was foxy's song, even tho jay was the one with 2 verses?
and I guess none of you guys watched rap city back in the day, cuz he had 3 other videos that were all over rap city before makaveli dropped.
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I'm not talkin bout It Was Written I'm talkin bout Illmatic the album yall claim had such an immediate impact and everyone was fukkin wit out the gate while sayin Reasonable Doubt came and went wit no noise, both them albums sold around the same amount and flopped commercially but Jay had hits off his that made him a big name immediately while Nas didn't.
Don't move the goalpost cause the facts make your argument look retarded we been talkin bout their debuts one came out in 94 one in 96, it was mad albums goin platinum both before and durin 94 from NWA to Cube Dre and Snoop. Biggie even went Gold wit his debut that same year and went platinum the next year while Nas didn't go Gold til 2 years later in 96, so you can't hide behind sayin "it was the beginnin of this rap generation" to make Nas look better.No you want us to do that to help out Nas but we comparin they debuts.
When comparin Kendrick to all time greats cats compare his shyt to their old albums ain't nobody comparin current rappers albums to Life Is Good or Magna Carta, and if RD dropped later it'd still be Reasonable Doubt that album definitely doesn't sound dated it was actually ahead of its time and the first album to have that sound wit that content.
I was a kid when Reasonable Doubt came out... even as I kid I knew Biggie, Wu Tang, Nas, ATCQ, Naughty By Nature etc I was Into music... but when can't knock the hustle would come on I thought of it as a Mary J Blige song with some guy rapping. I was aware back then but Jay really wasn't that big honestly
Eat a dikk fukk nikka.. ain't nobody reading all that
No you want us to do that to help out Nas but we comparin they debuts.
When comparin Kendrick to all time greats cats compare his shyt to their old albums ain't nobody comparin current rappers albums to Life Is Good or Magna Carta, and if RD dropped later it'd still be Reasonable Doubt that album definitely doesn't sound dated it was actually ahead of its time and the first album to have that sound wit that content.
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:mspaintcamumad:Its only a few sentences you slow fakkit, you really just have no retort and can't dispute what I said. Drink piss bytch.
