Old heads ..Jokic already a top 3 offensive player ever

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Harden is a better scorer, 3 point shooter, free throw shooter and arguably a better passer also (they average the same number of assists). Jokic has never led the league in scoring or assists. You can't be in the GOAT offensive player conversation with a resumé like that. Harden led the league in scoring three times and in assists twice. You could even argue that if you correct for Jokic being a big man that his overall FG% advantage and rebounding advantage are a little underwhelming also. Harden also has more 70+ games seasons played than Jokic has seasons played in total. Jokic playoff numbers are skewed because he's only been in the playoffs six times. Like someone said, a CP3 hamstring injury is really the main case for Jokic.
Breh you’re talking stats in the majority of this. Harden has like 3 of the top 20 usage rate seasons ever. Of course he’s gonna have more numbers lol. I’m just talking eye test

I can give Harden being a better passer out of PnR, but I don’t know any other aspect that he’s a better passer in.
 

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Breh you’re talking stats in the majority of this. Harden has like 3 of the top 20 usage rate seasons ever. Of course he’s gonna have more numbers lol. I’m just talking eye test

I can give Harden being a better passer out of PnR, but I don’t know any other aspect that he’s a better passer in.
For one, he's a better lob thrower even from the top of the key:manny:
 

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Is he better than Prime Harden?

Harden gets chit on for his postseason failures but if CP3 doesn’t get injured Rockets beat the greatest team ever assembled

Jokic had 1 great run, and has generally “underperformed” compared to a Bron, MJ, Curry, etc
The grestest team ever assembled?

Google 86 Celtics 83 Sixers 87 Lakers 96 Bulls
 

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In order:
1. Steph
2. Jokic
3. Bron

No one else comes close :manny:
I think to be the best offensive player ever, you have to be elite passer in addition to being dominant scorer. So as great as Steph is, I'd put Jokic and bron above him. luka will be up there one day.
 
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