Old Heads Messing Up The Mixtape Game

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How long yall think it'll be before every artist new and old are ready to sue over their songs? I know 2chainz be on twitter salty about nikkas remixing his shyt

There all ready if the $ is drying up they just need a blueprint to follow
 

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Guess what... those dudes got away with it. Sorry the new artists didn't... I'm not blaming these new artists. I actually blame the industry for letting this practice go on for as long as it did. Free mixtapes were allowing artists to cut out producers (and to a certain extent DJs) if the songs were beat jacks/remade songs and lower their costs a LOT in order to stay relevant. So I'm at a show doing songs over tweaked Pete Rock beats getting 30k a show while Pete Rock at home chilling. Huh?

Y'all can't have it both ways. If everyone has to eat... why cut out the folks who made it possible? If Finesse never cleared the sample... then it's on him to prove Mac used the same sample flip... if he did.. he has a case.

That's why I say it's better to just flip the sample your own way, make sure the originators of the sample are cool with it, then proceed on. If you can't afford it, then get your money right before you rap. Period.

I'm not co-signing him performing it or mastering it like a real song and it having 30 million views on youtube and making your next mixtape get 500k downloads in like 1 day and you selling out shows.
That's not something that usually happens, but if it's a freestyle like Jeezy, Weezy and them do, I respect that and Finesse too. I'm just not feeling that he took it to court and the amount of 10 million bucks has all these dudes afraid. I'm not feeling that the song Mac jacked was something he jacked as well. If you wanna be a righteous nikka be a righteous nikka.

The worst thing if it backfires and he has to pay for Rostrums lawyers and for the song he didn't clear, If that happens that's on him and nikkas will probably celebrate that. If he wins, he's the only one who will celebrate.
 

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Good!! fukk these nikkas I hope old heads will get their money
 
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Guess what... those dudes got away with it. Sorry the new artists didn't... I'm not blaming these new artists. I actually blame the industry for letting this practice go on for as long as it did. Free mixtapes were allowing artists to cut out producers (and to a certain extent DJs) if the songs were beat jacks/remade songs and lower their costs a LOT in order to stay relevant. So I'm at a show doing songs over tweaked Pete Rock beats getting 30k a show while Pete Rock at home chilling. Huh?

Y'all can't have it both ways. If everyone has to eat... why cut out the folks who made it possible? If Finesse never cleared the sample... then it's on him to prove Mac used the same sample flip... if he did... then Mac should have given the man his props which he FAILED to do. I don't know why folks are ignoring that.

That's why I say it's better to just flip the sample your own way, make sure the originators of the sample are cool with it, then proceed on. If you can't afford it, then get your money right before you rap. Period.

:cheers: +rep.. cats clearly lack common sense in here..
 
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It's not about old heads. It's just in the label's best interests to keep mixtapes to a minimum. Look at an artist like Big KRIT. He was getting cheese from mixtapes and didn't even really need an album :yeshrug:.

Obviously this is bad for record labels because they want to have control over the product on the market and cockblock artists from caking up outside the system.

This sucks for us as listeners though because it means less quality music and less choice... Hopefully this Mac Miller suit will fall through (as it should). Still, it's not about old heads - it's about the establishment :pacspit:. Logically, everyone understands that sampling on mixtapes is just good for music.

That's why I say it's better to just flip the sample your own way, make sure the originators of the sample are cool with it, then proceed on. If you can't afford it, then get your money right before you rap. Period.

I'ma let you finish, but you do realize the bolded is bad for hip-hop? It robs young artists of opportunity.
 

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What's that old bum Finesse's twitter so I can harrass him for not keeping it hip hop...suing somebody over a mixtape beat you originally sampled and never cleared in the first goddamn place is one of the more ridiculous things imaginable...somebody post some links to his entire discography too...i won't even listen to them, i just want to have his entire life's worth of work in my possession without ever giving him a dime...if I was mac I would forward a copy of Hip 2 Da Game to Oscar Peterson and let him now he stole their music without permission decades ago and sue him for whatever they can get out of him
 
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I'ma let you finish, but you do realize the bolded is bad for hip-hop? It robs young artists of opportunity.

Let me ask you something then. Unless a rapper can produce, rap, record, and then mix his own music (which artists these days should strive to do at least 2 out of the 4)... how do you think a rapper pays for the studio sessions or the beats he uses?

I'm not being funny, that's a serious question.
 

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if yall talkin about how Finesse didn't clear the sample, you just don't respect hip-hop. straight up

Finesse put in work to flip the sample and have it come out like that. Mac Miller just took what Finesse made. not a piece of it. the whole thing

in hip-hop I think the priority should always be about respect. if you wanna use something, you try to get blessings. if you don't get those blessings, don't use it
 

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if yall talkin about how Finesse didn't clear the sample, you just don't respect hip-hop. straight up

Finesse put in work to flip the sample and have it come out like that. Mac Miller just took what Finesse made. not a piece of it. the whole thing

in hip-hop I think the priority should always be about respect. if you wanna use something, you try to get blessings. if you don't get those blessings, don't use it

The problem is that Mac Miller was not famous when the song dropped. He was basically unknown, it was his first tape that made any type of noise.
I don't think he knew that in the coming months that mixtape would make him a rap/pop star or whatever and neither did Rostrum. So it was a mistake from Rostrum to think that a certain rapper wouldn't sue you for 10 million cause some rapper used your song for his mixtape cause he loves Finesse.
 
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