Old Heads Messing Up The Mixtape Game

[hustlemania]

he's not white it's cool will


ignored my freddie gibbs going over '93 til infinity like the plague, hell the mixtape cover was miseducation of lauryn hill with his face etched into the desk instead of hers...give it up this arguement is no longer about what it should be about it's about a "swagless jew" "disrespecting hip-hop".

What I don't get it how do you people not realize IT WILL NOT END WITH RAPPING OVER OTHER PEOPLE'S BEATS. THIS IS GETTING SAMPLE CLEARANCE ON A FREE TAPE. TO SAMPLE ANYTHING, NOT JUST SOMEONE ELSES BEAT. Using samples that could never get cleared no matter how much money is thrown at the owner of the og music. This is an affront on hip-hop musically: if you can't do it legally fukk it do it anyway you can.

because Gibbs got clearance to use the song, and hes performed the track with SOM plenty of times.. there's nothing to discuss..

you keep talking about the tape, and thats not the basis of the lawsuit.. which plenty of people have stated in here, numerous times.. you just wanna go back & forth about shyt, for the sake of it.. get over it.. there's still PLENTY oh mixtapes dropping.. hell, a few just dropped today.. like I said, if yall so worried about it, and wanna take a stand against shyt like this- start a label, and put the music out yourself.. it's really that simple..

 

[SwagKingKong]

I hope I don't become a bitter ass nikka when I'm older. fukk these dudes seriously

 

[Mask and Da Glock]

He got clearance for using the image of lauryn hill's album cover too? I think it's you who doesn't understand the consequences of a lawsuit like this going through, no disrespect intended. How does any of your last sentence apply to me at all? What are you even talkin about. I'm going on and on yeah right the majority of the thread is in the same position I'm in i literally got no idea what you're talking about. I've only been going back and forth with one person who's equally going "on and on".

 

[daze23]

at these hip hop elitist fakkits defending lord finesse when HE NEVER CLEARED SAMPLES AT ALL

don't front like this would be any different if Finesse had cleared the sample

Lord Finesse put in work to find that sample and make that beat. yall just don't respect what that is

 

[hustlemania]

He got clearance for using the image of lauryn hill's album cover too? I think it's you who doesn't understand the consequences of a lawsuit like this going through, no disrespect intended. How does any of your last sentence apply to me at all? What are you even talkin about.

well.. please.. explain to us what a lawsuit like this is gonna do to the hip-hop community as a whole..?

 

[Mask and Da Glock]

If lord finesse can sue for his music being used in a free mixtape, that is open season, even gives the right, to any artist every sampled in a free mixtape. Not a lil wayne freestyle. Any beat ever on a mixtape that used an uncleared sample (I'll give you a hint, they're never cleared because it's a free tape).



if you didn't skim you would see not only me, but almost a majority of posters saying the same thing. But keep on using the nba player smileys that's better than reading and critical thought.


still no disrespect intended, but if you're not going to read the "posts i posted just to post" you would know what I just typed again. Did I strike a cord because I said this is all because mac is a jew and not black? Was that it?

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Anyone supporting Finesse is being clouded by Mac Miller hate, period.

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

So it's okay as long as you don't get caught...got ya, but as I've said from the very beginning this is about each and every artist who's been sampled on a free mixtape now having the legal ability to sue. If you're saying that's how it should be then so be it, agree to disagree.


but yo...this has mannie fresh in it, clearly a professionally produced video, he obviously would play this at a show....how again is this different? Does he have bread ready to pay carl thomas on deck?

(it's nice btw)

Let me say this... one more time.

If you're a producer or an artist making music.... either do original production if you don't have any money... or have your money right if you want to do sample-based production in case something happens. Or at least give credit to the former producers/songwriters. It's on the artist to make sure his affairs are taken care of when doing music. No one else. It's really that simple.

And in that example I posted, the artist is not selling the song and he does not perform the song anymore as far as I know. He gets show money but he's not using this song as his main promotion. And as far as I know, he DID have a discussion with the songwriters for "I Wish" (dude is legit, check his twitter, dee1music) through Mannie Fresh to get the green light.

 

[Dump Gawd]

don't front like this would be any different if Finesse had cleared the sample

Lord Finesse put in work to find that sample and make that beat. yall just don't respect what that is

and i put in work in finding the samples cause i appreciate hip hop

don't tell me i don't respect the culture

 

[William Bassington]

Just peeped the back of the mixtape...

Kool-Aid & Frozen Pizza (prod. Lord Finesse)

LF got credit on the tape & he never got the original sample cleared.

I'll still say making a video and promoting it like a single ain't cool but neither is this lawsuit.

OoHH and suing for 10 mil

 

[daze23]

If lord finesse can sue for his music being used in a free mixtape, that is open season, even gives the right, to any artist every sampled in a free mixtape. Not a lil wayne freestyle. Any beat ever on a mixtape that used an uncleared sample (I'll give you a hint, they're never cleared because it's a free tape).

if you didn't skim you would see not only me, but almost a majority of posters saying the same thing. But keep on using the nba player smileys that's better than reading and critical thought.

this is not about just a sample. he used Finesse's whole track. also part of it is the song was used for more than "just a mixtape" (professionally made video, live performances, etc)

although I think someone else is suing Mac Miller for a sample

 

[Mask and Da Glock]

Let me say this... one more time.

If you're a producer or an artist making music.... either do original production if you don't have any money... or have your money right if you want to do sample-based production in case something happens. Or at least give credit to the former producers/songwriters. It's on the artist to make sure his affairs are taken care of when doing music. No one else. It's really that simple.

And in that example I posted, the artist is not selling the song and he does not perform the song anymore as far as I know. He gets show money but he's not using this song as his main promotion. And as far as I know, he DID have a discussion with the songwriters for "I Wish" (dude is legit, check his twitter, dee1music) through Mannie Fresh to get the green light.

You're acting impatient like I'm not understanding you, I am completely understanding what you are saying, and I have from the very beginning. You do not think an up and coming rapper should use sample based production to rap on to put out for free (unless your very specific conditions are met, as if Johnny Blazeguns up the street can call up the owners of the isley brothers masters and ask for a quick favor). I am saying that is not hip-hop and some fukk shyt. I should be able to take your boy dee 1's song, strip his vocals, rap on it and put it out for free. His producer shouldn't be able to come at me LEGALLY. If he wants to go another route that's fair. It's not me that's not understanding it's you. Call it miscommunication but i don't appreciate you sighing and huffing and puffing through internet smileys like I don't understand what you're saying.

this is not about just a sample. he used Finesse's whole track. also part of it is the song was used for more than "just a mixtape" (professionally made video, live performances, etc)

although I think someone else is suing Mac Miller for a sample

You are correct, that is the basis of this law suit. That is not the scope of this lawsuit though. The scope is using someone elses work on a music project put of for free and whether those should be paid for or not.

 

[2stains]

real ish

 

[hustlemania]

If lord finesse can sue for his music being used in a free mixtape, that is open season, even gives the right, to any artist every sampled in a free mixtape. Not a lil wayne freestyle. Any beat ever on a mixtape that used an uncleared sample (I'll give you a hint, they're never cleared because it's a free tape).



if you didn't skim you would see not only me, but almost a majority of posters saying the same thing. But keep on using the nba player smileys that's better than reading and critical thought.


still no disrespect intended, but if you're not going to read the "posts i posted just to post" you would know what I just typed again. Did I strike a cord because I said this is all because mac is a jew and not black? Was that it?

Let me say this... one more time.

If you're a producer or an artist making music.... either do original production if you don't have any money... or have your money right if you want to do sample-based production in case something happens. Or at least give credit to the former producers/songwriters. It's on the artist to make sure his affairs are taken care of when doing music. No one else. It's really that simple.

And in that example I posted, the artist is not selling the song and he does not perform the song anymore as far as I know. He gets show money but he's not using this song as his main promotion. And as far as I know, he DID have a discussion with the songwriters for "I Wish" (dude is legit, check his twitter, dee1music) through Mannie Fresh to get the green light.

this is not about just a sample. he used Finesse's whole track. also part of it is the song was used for more than "just a mixtape" (professionally made video, live performances, etc)

although I think someone else is suing Mac Miller for a sample

thank you, fam..

dudes talking himself in a circle..

 

[Non Sequitur]

let's just say close to an Interpolation.

Like when you hear a song and say...that sounds just like the so and so beat.

That's fukking lame