Old Heads Messing Up The Mixtape Game

[Mask and Da Glock]

Then refute it, you're not, neither is dee 1's homie. If this case goes through it EXTRAPOLATES to all sample use in free music projects. What don't YOU understand. The lord finesse issue is considered a SAMPLE in a COURT OF LAW. I laid out, point by point, how this could break down to be bad. Why don't you go ahead and quote it then refute it with sentences. You are thinking of lord finesse versus mac miller, fukk em, that's not what this thread is about. Read through it again and see who agrees with me via "daps" or whatever is the equivalent of passive aggresive internet smileys.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Anyone supporting Finesse is being clouded by Mac Miller hate, period.

Either that or or a overeager sense of need to defend a respected hip hop veteran, regardless of how hypocritical, anti-hip hop, and plainly ridiculous his stance is

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

You're acting impatient like I'm not understanding you, I am completely understanding what you are saying, and I have from the very beginning. You do not think an up and coming rapper should use sample based production to rap on to put out for free (unless your very specific conditions are met, as if Johnny Blazeguns up the street can call up the owners of the isley brothers masters and ask for a quick favor). I am saying that is not hip-hop and some fukk shyt. I should be able to take your boy dee 1's song, strip his vocals, rap on it and put it out for free. His producer shouldn't be able to come at me LEGALLY. If he wants to go another route that's fair. It's not me that's not understanding it's you. Call it miscommunication but i don't appreciate you sighing and huffing and puffing through internet smileys like I don't understand what you're saying.




You are correct, that is the basis of this law suit. That is not the scope of this lawsuit though. The scope is using someone elses work on a music project put of for free and whether those should be paid for or not.

Oh... I know you get what I'm saying. You do. That's my bad to sound condescending. But you're using a point that is not hip-hop at all. If a person put in hard work to make a beat, get the okay to use a sample, put vocals on it, mix it, then put it out...

Why can't you as an artist do the EXACT same thing? Why should you take a song that someone else worked hard on and put it out just because you want to rap?

Do you know how lazy that sounds? Just remake the beat and tweak it if it's that serious. Put in your own work just like everyone else has.

And no... the producer can come at you if you blow up off of that song that you didn't ask about. The industry just has everyone thinking ass backwards on this.


And if Finesse goes to court and wins... well then it's time for rappers to get REALLY original or start getting that money right for samples. Hell, that could show us who's really about this hip-hop life and has the creativity and originality to do it and who needs to hang it up.

 

[My neck and my back]

i'm all for shytting on these old delusional nostalgic hip hop heads, but this cac stole the whole beat and is out performing making money off it.

 

[5n0man]

i'm all for shytting on these old delusional nostalgic hip hop heads, but this cac stole the whole beat and is out performing making money off it.

LF issue is that he just wants credit for the song tho, which he got, its right on the back of the mixtape,

nikka wants him to have his name announced everytime the song is played, and have lord finesse graffitied on the wall in the video and all types of other shyt,

why he aint try to sue the dozens of other rappers that straight jacked his beats?

this argument is about a cac vs. a old head, and people are picking sides based off of dude being white and trash, regardless of how stupid LF sounds

 

[chemicalsword]

mac is trash??
nahhh........

 

[Mask and Da Glock]

Oh... I know you get what I'm saying. You do. That's my bad to sound condescending. But you're using a point that is not hip-hop at all. If a person put in hard work to make a beat, get the okay to use a sample, put vocals on it, mix it, then put it out...

Why can't you as an artist do the EXACT same thing? Why should you take a song that someone else worked hard on and put it out just because you want to rap?

Do you know how lazy that sounds? Just remake the beat and tweak it if it's that serious. Put in your own work just like everyone else has.

And no... the producer can come at you if you blow up off of that song that you didn't ask about. The industry just has everyone thinking ass backwards on this.


And if Finesse goes to court and wins... well then it's time for rappers to get REALLY original or start getting that money right for samples. Hell, that could show us who's really about this hip-hop life and has the creativity and originality to do it and who needs to hang it up.

I feel you but how does it make it more creative just because they're paying for the use of it? Bottom line is an up and coming producer can't afford to pay for samples, so why not have his beats on free tapes, that's the only promotion these guys can possibly get. And of course you have the mannie fresh's and the drumma boys and neptunes that only use synths or their own music but that's just not realistic. Oh well...this is an impasse, agree to disagree. :shake:

 

[Yaboysix]

"sopa tryna censor Internet we out to get this doe"





Ab-soul

 

[YourMajesty]

the people arguing for Finesse wants him to win because Mac is a white boy, let's keep it a 1000. This is a bad look for hip hop when you gotta clear samples for free mixtapes. fukk Finesse real talk

"old ass rappers tryna advance, it's all over take it like a man"

 

[William Bassington]

Someone please explain how Mac "stole" the beat...y'all are pathetic